I was out hunting this morning and ran across a hunter from Georgia. We wound up setting up our stands not too far from each other. When I talked with him later he said, "I like how your hunting. It's old school." I didn't see any deer today, but the comment brought a smile to my face. I didn't realize I was old school, but I'll take it!
:)
This year while in the elk woods i met a wheelie hunter and he called us Hardcore with our sticks.
Feels good when they say stuff like that.
Ha ha! that's good.
I had a similar experience a while back. I was at a 3D shoot and a young compound shooter noticed I was shooting a longbow. He said that his Dad used a old fashioned bow like that "back in the day".
While talking to him I found out that I knew his father and his father and I had hunted a few times as teens together with our trusty recurves "back in the day"!
I thought it was amusing. You're old school and I'm old fashioned, I guess, from back in the day!
Most of the compound hunters I know deeply respect and admire trad hunters. That is until they make elitist comments. Then they think of us as snobs. It is something to avoid.
I am the only trad hunter in my elk camp. The guys love shooting my bow and I am sure some of them will eventually go trad.
God bless you all, Steve
When I was in Colorado in Sept, elk hunting a young lady game warden stopped in to visit and check us out at camp.....she was fascinated by our long bows, most likely thought look at these old fools.....except Charlie is only 32...lol!!! I'm the old fool.... :biglaugh: I never thought I would be old school, but I guess I would think now that's a compliment!
The Appalachian trail runs through my hunting area, so I often meet people on the trail. I have had comments like, "wow, that is a nice long bow. Now that's hunting for real!"
I had someone call me hardcore for hunting with a recurve. But most of my friends who know me call me a camper! :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Ron, she was lookig for a nice way to check our licenses. I think she was eying me up too lol.
Like the connect to Old school myself. Know recurves have been around a good while. Like to know which came first Rcv or LB? You recurve boys got some slick bows to pick from.
I was at the local archery range a few weeks ago and a couple compound shooters were having difficultly dialing in the sights on a new bow a third guy was shooting for the first time. One of them looked up and saw my recurve and jokingly said "This guy is probably thinking to himself 'Only p----'s need sights!'"
I told them 'No', and that I was well aware they could probably get better groups at 40yrds than I could at 15. They seemed to respect the challenge of shooting and hunting with traditional archery equipment.
I've had other folks call me hard core. Haven't gotten the Old School comment yet, though.
He was a really nice guy. I just took the compliment and smiled. I wished him good luck and I hope he gets as many deer as he can use this fall! There was no pretense on either of our parts and that's how I like it. A good woodsman is a good woodsman in my book. Just two hunters talking and wishing each other well. We all came from the same history at some point. It was a good way to end a SLOW morning....
Sixby,
I agree with your statement. I have never understood why people get after someone for using the legal weapon of their choice. We are all different and, as such, have different tastes. I do get annoyed when people are breaking the law, but that is an entirely different point.
I thought that was a very unique compliment on his part! :thumbsup:
Shoot straight ladies and gents!
-Charlie
QuoteOriginally posted by straitera:
Like to know which came first Rcv or LB?
It is my understanding that straight sticks came first. Whether or not these were "Long" bows or not might be another discussion all together. The extra energy stored in the curved limbs was not discovered until later. Later is a relative term though since, at least as I understand it, Scythian bows have been traced back to 8th century BC and used a recurve limb.
I've had some similar comments in the field. My reply is usually something to the effect "If I wanted to shoot game at 50+ yards I'd use a gun"
To me it's all about the challenge of getting within 20 yards of my intended quarry, that takes some skill & some luck. That's why I gave up gun hunting years ago and don't use a compound.
Mike,
He wasn't insulting me. Even if he was, I wouldn't say something derogatory about his compound bow. That's his choice and it is ok.
He said, "I like how your hunting, it's old school." It was a compliment. Just a very unique one and one I like. It's kind of like the bicycle I ride. It has fenders, one speed, coaster brakes and whitewall tires! I guess both my bow AND my bicycle are throw backs to days gone past. Maybe I need to find a way to use them both at once.
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Mike,
He wasn't insulting me. Even if he was, I wouldn't say something derogatory about his compound bow. That's his choice and it is ok.
He said, "I like how your hunting, it's old school." It was a compliment. Just a very unique one and one I like. It's kind of like the bicycle I ride. It has fenders, one speed, coaster brakes and whitewall tires! I guess both my bow AND my bicycle are throw backs to days gone past. Maybe I need to find a way to use them both at once.
I like that analogy between a trad bow and a one speed bike. They both share "simplicity"; the real advantage of both to me.
I've been listening to these comments from c shooters since the things were first being made. I've never shot one and don't have anything against someone that chooses to use one.
I always seem to hear you've got more patience than I do, I'd never want to put in the time and practice it takes to shoot one of those. Thank God they invented c-pounds.
They make me feel special, which I think I am!
But..... when they see the cane arrow with stone point..... suddenly they decide I'm just "NUTS".
Oh well, to each their own...
I got the "Oh your one of those guys....Nice"
was practicing with my recurve this week on a local offroading trail. Old timer pulls up wheeling his jeep and we get to talking about hunting. He looks at my recurve and says "you hunting with that this season?" and I said yeah. "Don't yah got a compound?" :bigsmyl:
Stone points on cane arrows are wicked old school not just old school!!!
People REALLY show respect for animals harvested with primitive equiptment. I never will doubt stone points again after I saw Tippits black bear kill. I wish he would post that back up again. It was stupid on my part to doubt it in the first place. Now I just want to try it!
While in CO elk hunting, we ran across other bowhunters, as well as hikers and mountain bikers. Those who commented on our longbows were very impressed. Hard Core, purists, doing it the hard way, real bowhunters were some of the comments we got. Never a negative one. I think more often than not, people are intrigued by the simplicity, and the discipline of traditional archery.
We talked with a couple on the trail, both non hunters who were really in awe that we could take up the challenge of bowhunting elk with longbows. the gentleman was really curious about our gear. He said backpacking in and hunting, especially with a traditional bow really impressed him. Made us feel pretty good. They wished us luck in our quest as they departed to continue their hike.
Met another fella, hunting muleys who was originally from MI, resides in CO. We struck up a conversation at the trailhead, and he was showing us on my topo some areas he had bumped in to a couple elk. When he saw our bows in the back of my truck he was instantly interested. We talked about trad archery, and my son put on a little demo for him. AS it were, he was also a lefty, so we let him shoot a few shots with judo's. He was lovin it. I suspect we may have recruited another into the fold. He went on and on about how simple it was, and how much fun.
We ended up sharing a campfire and a few cold drinks withhim and his wife, and he showed us several areas to hunt that may be productive.
At my club, it's all compound shooters, but they are all respectful of trad archery. More often there's ribbing like Mathews vs Hoyt vs Bowtech,etc. They leave me alone! As to some history on longbows and recurves, I have always thought the longbow was more of an infantry weapon, and the recurve was originally for mounted troops/cavalry. Kind of like a long rifle and a carbine. Maybe someone can add to, or correct me on this.... Shoot straight!
When I took my Hunter Safety Course a few years back I was the only one shooting a Trad bow, a Browning Cobra. I agonized between it and my compound when I grabbed gear for the day. I grabbed the Browning and went all Trad that day.
I got a lot of looks and could hear the buzz of conversation behind me as I stepped-up to qualify. I was nervous as I'd never shot in front of people before.
Somehow I tranced out, couldn't even remember any of it afterwards, and put all 5 arrows in the middle of the vitals, surprised even myself! The buzz of comments was louder now, and excited. I calmly walked over to get my certificate, as if it was just routine shooting on my part, which at that time it wasn't.
When I went to the old fellow that was giving out the certificates he had a big old smile on his face and told me he hadn't seen a bow like that for some time. He complimented me on some fine shooting. I could tell it made his day, and mine.
I like 'Old School', and refer to myself that way often. :bigsmyl:
My son and I were in the Snowmass Wilderness for Elk a few years ago. Outfitter bringing some other hunters through to another drainage while we munching at the noon hour. Saw that we had ourcamp attached to our backpacks as well as "stickbows". Talked briefly with us and as they started to leave the Outfitter says to his client's. "Primitive Dudes _ _ Studs" :goldtooth:
I'm called crazy by my wheelie buddies. :) But, they are baffled how I do it. ;)
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Originally posted by Butts2:
My son and I were in the Snowmass Wilderness for Elk a few years ago. Outfitter bringing some other hunters through to another drainage while we munching at the noon hour. Saw that we had ourcamp attached to our backpacks as well as "stickbows". Talked briefly with us and as they started to leave the Outfitter says to his client's. "Primitive Dudes _ _ Studs" :thumbsup:
My girlfriend who just got into archery shoots a recurve. She told a male friend of hers that she got a bow. He asked her what kind and she told him a recurve. His repsonse was, "Whoa, that's
bad-ass!" She agreed. I would agree too, but I think my Hills are a little more BA :D
Bowhunting with my recurves, I like being called "Old School". :D Not only does it sound good to me, it feels good to me too. :thumbsup:
I agree with sixby!!!!!
Gotta Love That!! I was Practicing in My BackYard and had Drawn quite a Crowd of Neighborhood Tricycle-Motors Behind Me, I said "Hi, and Please stay Behind me when I shoot ok??" First Question from a Little Shaver "Are you an Indian? Didnt Indians Shoot Bows Like that?" I had a LongBow as tall as I am, and had to chuckle, then explained to him that their Bows were Much Shorter and Why.
That was the End of my Shooting for that day, it was Question and Answer Time! It was Great!!
Too cool Shakes and thanks for keeping it positive fellas!
I've had people call me old school to,I love it!
Wait a minute..........
I thought I was oldskool
we are the navy seals/ rangers of the bow hunting world... silent and deadly...
Huh... all I ever get is.. that's outdated technology and.. a compound shoots way more effectively and knuckle head who works in a sports store could tell you that.
But I just laugh when they try to explain why the compound is more effective.
Then again that's just the non hunters and empty heads I've talked to.
I took the NY archery hunter course a couple of weeks ago and was the only one there with a recurve. I had to show the instructor how to string it. Not everyone had bows of their own and when it came time to do the shooting section, I offered everyone who wanted to to to shoot my bow. I made jokes about training wheels and such, which they all got a laugh out of and some even shot my bow. It led to a fun discussion of the two types of bows and their abilities for hunting. I hope we all came out of it respecting each others choices.
When i was young,the other kids used to think they were teasing and makeing fun of me.They called me Ishi boy.They couldnt understand why i smiled so big,when they did.LOL
QuoteOriginally posted by Shakes.602:
Gotta Love That!! I was Practicing in My BackYard and had Drawn quite a Crowd of Neighborhood Tricycle-Motors Behind Me, I said "Hi, and Please stay Behind me when I shoot ok??" First Question from a Little Shaver "Are you an Indian? Didnt Indians Shoot Bows Like that?" I had a LongBow as tall as I am, and had to chuckle, then explained to him that their Bows were Much Shorter and Why.
That was the End of my Shooting for that day, it was Question and Answer Time! It was Great!!
QuoteOriginally posted by Shakes.602:
Gotta Love That!! I was Practicing in My BackYard and had Drawn quite a Crowd of Neighborhood Tricycle-Motors Behind Me, I said "Hi, and Please stay Behind me when I shoot ok??" First Question from a Little Shaver "Are you an Indian? Didnt Indians Shoot Bows Like that?" I had a LongBow as tall as I am, and had to chuckle, then explained to him that their Bows were Much Shorter and Why.
That was the End of my Shooting for that day, it was Question and Answer Time! It was Great!!
Man I got a chuckle out of that!
X2 NYStickhunter!
I love it too when I have all the kids shooting in the back yard and my nephew says, "When I grow up I want to be like Uncle Charlie and shoot arrows at animals." Thats about all I ever acccomplish...shooting at the animal and missing high or low! :readit:
Most compound shooters have been respectful of my equipment, especially for hunting.
I was shooting a 3D this summer and was grouped with a couple of unlimited wheel bows. It was impressive to watch so many 10's but it sure took awhile with all of the time they spent with bino's and setting up their shots.
After a few targets one of the compound guys asked me if I really thought my recurve could kill an elk. I was shooting a Saluki, 62@28 and told him that it would do the job. He smiled but had a patronizing look on his face.
I just found out he hit his first elk in the hip at 50 yards and it ran off with the arrow sticking out. The next day he gut shot a bull at 60 yards and never recovered it.
I killed my elk at 16 yards and it was a complete pass through, dead and down in less than 10 seconds.
I find that most of the compound shooters I have met (aside from 1 self absorbed, egotistical, chest thumping, knome like, Bowhunter Education instructor in southern Maine in the early 90's), respect and admire Traditional gear. During a demonstration, the instructor (who also owned a "Pro-shop" and bragged to the class about his sales and service), put an arrow in the bullseye at 15 yards with a recurve. I asked why he hunted with a compound if he was that accurate with a recurve. He flipped out and lectured the class (while eye-balling me), about ethics and the need to use the most modern, highly advanced equipment available. I then stated if that was the case, perhaps we should all stick to hunting with scoped .30-06's. The class laughed and he was very red faced. There are few people I can honestly say I strongly dislike, and he was one of them.
The simplicity and stylish lines of longbows and recurves will continue to attract many who enjoy the outdoors, and are fed up with the never ending pursuit of mass advertised technology and speed. When I meet compound shooters, I openly admit my self imposed 20 yard range, and point out how fun, lightweight and simple the recurve is, and how Mankind survived for 40,000 years or so without wheels, range finders, peep sights and game cams. Plant a seed, and it will grow.
I was talking with someone one timeca while back who was askIng me about my bow. They asked why I shoot a longbow instead of a crossbow. My reply- the longbow is the original asault weapon. Just ask the French. They shot crossbows.
Just a few days ago, when one guy saw my longbow, he commented, "Oh, you're a serious hunter!"
A few years ago met a young bowhunter putting his compound in his truck and i said hunting traditional i see,he said yes sir.With all the crossbows in Ohio,i guess the joke was on me.
That IS pretty funny 3arrows!
When I emailed a friend the photo of my first deer kill with a longbow, he replied, "Great job Gene, that's the way to go ole school."
I thought about this thread and couldn't help but smile! :bigsmyl:
While squirrel hunting, I ran into a couple of guys that were doing the same, but with .22 rifles. Both guys had a smile on their face, while eyeballing my recurve. One of them asked, "Do you actually hunt with that or are you just practising?"
I chuckled and said, "Yep, I hunt with it and go to some 3D shoots too."
The second guy seemed a little "afraid" of the idea of a bow being so quiet. He actually said, "Bows are too quiet. You wouldn't even know if someone was shooting at you." :rolleyes:
I told him that I suppose that was true and wished them the best of luck with the rest of their hunting season. :saywhat:
Bowhunter57
Us oldschoolers don't shoot at people, half of us don't even get to shoot at animals most of the time!
:archer2:
I started off with my Dad's Ben Pearson fiberglass backed lemonwood longbow (I still have it) and have pretty much stuck with trad equipment. I have a compound and have taken some animals with it but it's just not the same. People really do take time to watch when you're shooting traditional bows. Like when I at the range shooting my 40cal long rifle. People stop and say "there's a real muzzle loader".
I was at a mixed shoot with my Hill. A couple of younger guy's with compounds were watching me shoot, then one of them came up and said that is cool that's old school. I took it as a compliment.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bowhunter57:
The second guy seemed a little "afraid" of the idea of a bow being so quiet. He actually said, "Bows are too quiet. You wouldn't even know if someone was shooting at you." :rolleyes:
Bowhunter57
If the guy shooting the rifle at you is any good, you won't hear that either.
I tease the wheelie shooters I know about having to use training wheels. "One day when you get good enough, you can start shooting a real bow." They tease me about getting too close-"You don't need arrows, you can just nock 'em in the head with your bow." We all have a good laugh-the comments are intended, and taken, good naturedly.
Us Georgia boys know how insecure the rest of you are about not being from GA. So we try to compliment you as much as possible...
Around here compounders just think I'm poor and can't afford a real bow.
They also call recurves "longbows". :)
I met some hikers last season on a trail coming out of some public land I was hunting.
They all stopped to admire the Mohawk I was carrying commenting on how beautiful it was. The comment I remember was "I didn't think anybody hunted with those anymore". I laughed and said "well I just like to have more fun than some"
I'll take "old school"
Eric
I like to tell my wheel shooting friends "when you grow up you will shoot a real bow not a wheel bow". They love that.
30coupe,
I was thinking something similar.
I had a guy "sport shooting" at me once with a rifle during shotgun season. He obviously wasn't supposed to have a rifle. Anyway, I was walking a wide open hill and the guy kept shooting and popping dirt up about 30 yards behind me. It didn't make me feel any better to hear the report of the rifle. He never got close, but it wasn't funny. He fired 5 shots behind me before I could get around the corner of the hill.
The odds were also a bit uneven, in his favor, since he was shooting from about 300-400 yards away. A 12 guage shotgun has no chance for defense at that range.
All other things being equal, that incident is one of the reasons I like archery season better than gun season. I will gladly stay old school in archery season with my recurve!
my good friends brother is 65YO and he shoots a tricked out compound...he also has a cool 56" browning recurve at49#(the dust and grime on that bow was thick he didn't shoot it in years)...he brought it at my place to show it to me and shoot it...we started around 5pm , 20yds-25yds shots, he shot his compound , then i gave him one of my Bear K. tuned/sweetspoted with 5" feathered arrows...he started shooting again :p ... until way late in the night around 8:30pm he just remembered the fun of old school bows ... i had to put a flashlight spot on the target...OLD SCHOOL is Back , hahaha i saw a big smile on his face :bigsmyl: and some sparks in his eyes , he said:" instinctive shooting is fun"
I remember 21 years ago now when I made the switch to sticks...the looks I'd get. It was pretty rare to see a kid with a stickbow serious shooting, not tinkering around. I had a damon howatt hunter at the time....man that thing was a shooting machine! best bow I think I've owned aside from a checkmate crusader that recently took its place on the wall due to a crack.
Not much has changed other than I'm by far not the only one shooting sticks at the 3d events. Back than there was 3 of us that hung out regularly, 2 brothers that turned me to trad and myself. And man alive the ribbing I'd get.....
Its all fun. Besides the animal has no clue what kind of bow that arrow came from.....well last I heard anyways none said..."ouch you shot me with a longbow..grrr" haha!
Most of my hunting partners are rifle toters or compounders... We get into these comments often. The way I see it, its NOT the equipment that makes the hunter.