So I ordered some test sets of points from 3rivers along with MBB v3 and a rest for my riser as the other one had fallen off.
Along with my order I was about to put in for some broadheads, but I decided against it as I came across single bevel two blade, 3 blade, etc. SO MANY BROAD HEADS. Which lead me ultimately to ordering those test points to gauge weight. I'm wondering if anyone could give me some advice on choosing a broadhead for hunting some white tail, I might not end up even shooting this year as my accuracy at longer ranges is..... unforgiving right now.
So to clarify;
Broadhead for white tail:(brand)
Blades(# of):
Bevel:
Right wing left wing?(no idea what the difference is.)
I understand a lot of this will be personal preference but it will give me an insight to my potential purchase. Thanks ahead of time!
Stay sharp, shoot straight, and have a good time.
Zwickey delta
2or4 blade
double bevel
glue on
Fly quiet(no vents), can weigh whatever you want them to, Easy to sharpen, tough, usually leave 2 big holes and they don't cost much.
Your going to get a bunch of responses but finding the right broadhead is part of the fun! :D
Rob
What Rob said........
BOB
I asked these questions myself a handful of times. The guys will want to know your draw weight, draw length, and arrow weight.
For me, I like Magnus Stingers or Buzzcuts in 4 blade. They're easy for me to sharpen and if I mess them up I send them back for free replacements. Also, the extra blades are small so shouldn't impede penetration like some large 3 or 4 blades.
Generally speaking Any cut-on-contact broadhead, made razor sharp, will do the trick on a white-tail, even on a light bow, so long as your arrows are tuned and your shot placement is good i.e. no heavy bone strikes.
Current thinking seems to be moving towards very heavy single bevel heads because they apparently blow apart heavy bone (because they spin while moving through flesh).
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob W.:
Zwickey delta
2or4 blade
double bevel
glue on
Fly quiet(no vents), can weigh whatever you want them to, Easy to sharpen, tough, usually leave 2 big holes and they don't cost much.
Your going to get a bunch of responses but finding the right broadhead is part of the fun! :D
Rob
the problem with glue on is I shoot carbon, I really want some wood arrows But I have yet to get a good explanation, not that people haven't tried, I'm just thick headed and need it laid out, on how to pick my spine.
I have a 28 inch draw shooting 48 #'s on a hoyt game master td recurve. I was also about to plunge on some wooden shafts but the spine issue got me away from it.
im going to be using 185gr hunor africas this season. great flying heads and have a silver flame design to them. thick blades, easy to resharpen, hold good edge and come hunting sharp.
I shoot carbon also. I buy the glue-on so I can add the screw-in adapter in the weight I want and turn them all the same way.
Rob
If you're pulling that close to 50# I would recommend the VPA Terminator/Woodsman elite in whatever weight works best for you. However If you were to ever pursue anything larger I say go with a 2 blade head. No matter what get it sharp. I shoot a 55# bow and use the 175 grn. WW Elites and can shoot through anything big enough to die (minus elephants,cape buffalo, and those sort of animals).
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob W.:
I shoot carbon also. I buy the glue-on so I can add the screw-in adapter in the weight I want and turn them all the same way.
Rob
When you turn them do you turn them flat or veritcal?
_ or | nocked and resting on the shelf and does it matter?
QuoteOriginally posted by JamesKerr:
If you're pulling that close to 50# I would recommend the VPA Terminator/Woodsman elite in whatever weight works best for you. However If you were to ever pursue anything larger I say go with a 2 blade head. No matter what get it sharp. I shoot a 55# bow and use the 175 grn. WW Elites and can shoot through anything big enough to die (minus elephants,cape buffalo, and those sort of animals).
sorry for double posting didn't catch this response right away.
Where do you get your VPA's?
I'm no expert, but I decided to go with a classic solid two-blade broadhead. I wanted everything to be more classic rather than modern.
I am going to be using, for the first time, 125gr Zwickey Eskimo Black Diamond glue-ons mounted on some 3Rivers cedar arrows.
They fly very good for me. I hope to be using them for years to come.
I am getting up into a tree on Thursday for a black bear to start my year off. I have no doubt they will get the job done.
Shooting off the shelf and the blades are vertical. I don't think it would really matter much about the blade being vertical or horizontal. The helical fletching make the arrow spin anyway.
Good luck.
And this is from my 3rd time shooting a recurve bow at 20 yrds. The Zwickey broadheads seem to fly pretty well. Don't take my terrible grouping as something wrong with the Zwickeys. It's purely operator error and inexperience (3rd time shooting).
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/Blacktalons/Target1broadhead.jpg)
QuoteOriginally posted by LeeBishop:
I'm no expert, but I decided to go with a classic solid two-blade broadhead. I wanted everything to be more classic rather than modern.
I am going to be using, for the first time, 125gr Zwickey Eskimo Black Diamond glue-ons mounted on some 3Rivers cedar arrows.
They fly very good for me. I hope to be using them for years to come.
I am getting up into a tree on Thursday for a black bear to start my year off. I have no doubt they will get the job done.
Shooting off the shelf and the blades are vertical. I don't think it would really matter much about the blade being vertical or horizontal. The helical fletching make the arrow spin anyway.
Good luck.
And this is from my 3rd time shooting a recurve bow at 20 yrds. The Zwickey broadheads seem to fly pretty well. Don't take my terrible grouping as something wrong with the Zwickeys. It's purely operator error and inexperience (3rd time shooting).
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/Blacktalons/Target1broadhead.jpg)
lee, that looks like my grouping at 11 feet, Haha. Working on those yardage shots lately and get 3 of 5 on target (vitals on bag target) I appreciate your input. Im impressed at the praise of zwickey and at 30 bucks for 6? flabbergasted!
QuoteOriginally posted by David Dumke:
lee, that looks like my grouping at 11 feet, Haha. Working on those yardage shots lately and get 3 of 5 on target (vitals on bag target) I appreciate your input. Im impressed at the praise of zwickey and at 30 bucks for 6? flabbergasted!
Well, I'm not new to archery. So, I guess my form wasn't too bad all these years. I've only started shooting a recurve bow for the last couple of weeks.
And I bought my Zwickey Black Diamonds from a local archery shop in Little Rock for like $23 for half a dozen. If they are selling for $30 now then I guess I got a good deal. They are great simple heads.
I wish I had some vintage Ben Pearson Deadheads though. I'd be using those things. But on **** they sell for a premium...out of my range.
cant go wrong with Zwickeys... I cant decide either.. So I have 18 hunting arrows ready, 6 with Eclipse, 6 with woodsmans, 6 with Grizzlies..I will probably shoot the Grizzlies.. It doesnt really matter as long as they are sharp and you put it in the right spot..
-Zwickey (Eskimo/Delta)
-4 Blade
-Double
-5" RW Helical
My dad has used this setup for 30+ years and I have used it for 10. I'll never use anything else.
OR.....pick the broadhead you want to use then match and tune our arrow to your bow to make it work.......I shoot 160gr snuffers out of 6 different bows from 45# to 70#, both longbows and recurves.
so any kind of cut on contact will work? im also new to trad shooting, and im looking into the carbon express f 15, its a cut on contact with 4 bleeders will that be to much resistance on impact ?
I need heads that are easy to sharpen (because I suck at it). A three blade head that is easy for me are the VPA's. They also fly true, tough as nails and are quiet in flight.
If I go with my Magnus Stingers I have to use my KME sharpener for them.
Sharp is the key. Make and model are not nearly as important.
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob W.:
Zwickey delta
2or4 blade
double bevel
glue on
Fly quiet(no vents), can weigh whatever you want them to, Easy to sharpen, tough, usually leave 2 big holes and they don't cost much.
Your going to get a bunch of responses but finding the right broadhead is part of the fun! :D
Rob
There you go! There are lots of different ones, but you will be hard pressed to find on that is actually better than a Delta. :thumbsup:
By the way, Deltas are super easy to sharpen to scary sharp. I can make them pop hair with nothing more than a file. The key is light strokes once you get them close to sharp.
What I have right now
Broadhead for white tail:ZWICKEY DELAT
Blades(# of): 2
Bevel: DOUBLE
last two years I've shot Steel Force 225 gr single bevel and loved them
You can get the Woodsman elites which are the same head as the VPA from 3rivers.
Sounds like im going with zwickey but the only weight I see on 3river is 135 for the ones I looked at. Im thinking of going for glue on and just getting the inserts for it, I like the idea of choosing which way I face my broadheads.
Anywhere to get the zwickeys in more custom weight.
I put mine straight up and down. I like the back of the head to touch my knuckle.
What kind of weight do you need? Between short/long aluminum/steel adapters you could get a bunch of weights out of the same head. Brass inserts are another option.
Like Hvyhitter said I pick my broadhead then tune arrows to the head.
Zwickey Delta's. Thats what I shoot. Like rob said you can make them how you want them.
3 Blade Snuffer, a lot easier to sharpen than most and you will get a big hole! Shawn
I shot my biggest buck ever with a Zwicky Delta. 35 yards up hill. the deer went down before the arrow fell out of the branches beyond the deer. If you want to shoot something a little lighter that may fly better for shorter or lighter weight arrows the Eskimos have always done the job for us nearly as well. Plus I like how nice Zwicky head can be sharpened with a file, if you are sharpening challenged Zwicky is the way to go.
This is my formula for carbon shafts:
FOC
ARROW length 29.5
shaft+feathers+nock wt 259 (Beman ICS Bowhunter 500)
separate insert weight? 30 (standard aluminum that comes with the ICS)
adapter weight? 100 (Steel from 3rivers)
point weight 130 (Zwickey Delta - been sharpened a few times so 130 instead of 135)
total arrow weight 519
balance length 21.25
FOC % 22.03
GPP
draw wt 46 (Kanati)
arrow wt 519
GPP 11.28
This combo will shoot through whitetails easily. It also kills the heck out of turkeys. :D
This year I'm going with Deltas on POC shafts...old school trad... ;)
BTW: I mount my broadheads vertically as well. I also use the back of the head as a draw indicator.
QuoteOriginally posted by Shawn Leonard:
3 Blade Snuffer, a lot easier to sharpen than most and you will get a big hole! Shawn
x2
get that arrow weight up around 500 grains
if your shots are gonna be 15 yrds or so put a sharp 3 blade 125 snuffer thru the lungs and you
and you will have earned yourself a whitetail
david what part of michigan do you live
kevin
I just put on my 4 blade deltas and they aren't straight up and down. More of a main blade 2 and 8 sort of thing. Just remember after you set them if your going to take them off number them. 6 arrows and 6 broadheads are a pain to find the angle combo again.
Rob
Quotedavid what part of michigan do you live
kevin
I live near Iron Mountain in the UP