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Title: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: dave19113 on September 02, 2011, 05:43:00 PM
Does anyone know where to obtain a wide sharpening stone? I use the ones I purchased from KME and they work great BUT I would love to get a wide one to sharpen up the long El Grandes. I was hoping to get a fine or extra fine.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: joekeith on September 02, 2011, 05:51:00 PM
How wide are you wanting?
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: tomh on September 02, 2011, 05:55:00 PM
i have a 4x10 diamond stone, but be prepared to drop some coin if you want one of those. I got it at a woodworker supply place on line.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: dave19113 on September 02, 2011, 06:17:00 PM
4x10 is a good starting point...How much coin are we talking?
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: kibok&ko on September 02, 2011, 06:18:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by dave19113:
4x10 is a good starting point...How much coin are we talking?
keep me posted !!!
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: Greg Ray on September 02, 2011, 06:25:00 PM
I use 3" x 8" x 1/2" Norton brand India benchstones I got from Sharpeningsupplies.com.  Paid around $50 for a set of 3:  Hard, medium and soft.  However, the fine grade translucent hard Arkansas of the same size cost about $90.  They handle a 160 grain STOS head very well and I use the KME sharpening guide.  Hope this helpd.==s.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: JimB on September 02, 2011, 06:39:00 PM
I use the DMT 3"X8" diamond hones which are about $53,depending on grit.I wrote a"how to" which is in the How To Resources on how I use them.

After using the diamond hones,I use successively finer grits of wet or dry sandpaper laid over the hone till I get a polished edge.

To be honest,you could use a flat piece of steel or plate glass with the paper to do the same thing.
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Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: JimB on September 02, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
Oh,Sharpening Supplies has that 4"X10",2 sided diamond for $110.(2 grits))
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: Sharpster on September 02, 2011, 07:31:00 PM
Okay,

As I've often said, everyone wants a big 'ol stone till they find out how much they cost...

Q. Suppose we were to offer the KME "Super-Tuff" Aluminum oxide stones in a larger size... Would 3x8 be adequate? I'm guessing that these would be around $30-$35 each. You guys know I won't put our name on anything less than top quality or sell anything that's not made in the USA and because of this, I'm pretty sure that would be a close retail price estimate. I don't know if they can even make us 4x10 stones but those would be very pricey.

Thoughts????

Ron
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: Canadabowyer on September 02, 2011, 07:50:00 PM
Ron, I think you would sell a bunch of the 3"x8" "super-tuffs". Bob
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: 2treks on September 02, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
I think that would be a good move Ron. A good bench stone is a handy tool to have at the ready. A quick touch up now and then will keep your cutting tools in good shape and the stone will prove to be a good investment for years to come. A sharp blade is a good blade in my opinion.
3x8 or maybe the 4x10 is my vote. A good STONE will last for years.

Chuck
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: pauljr on September 02, 2011, 08:15:00 PM
Ive been looking a large stone, was thinking hard arkansas. Ron, how would the aluminum oxide rate vs the arkansas stone? That does seam like avery fair price for a long term investment.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: JimB on September 02, 2011, 08:23:00 PM
I find the 3"x8" stones plenty big to do long strokes on the Grizzlies and know they would work well on Tuffheads and others.I doubt if we will ever see many broadheads longer.They would be great for standard sized heads as well.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: dave19113 on September 02, 2011, 08:36:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sharpster:
Okay,

As I've often said, everyone wants a big 'ol stone till they find out how much they cost...

Q. Suppose we were to offer the KME "Super-Tuff" Aluminum oxide stones in a larger size... Would 3x8 be adequate? I'm guessing that these would be around $30-$35 each. You guys know I won't put our name on anything less than top quality or sell anything that's not made in the USA and because of this, I'm pretty sure that would be a close retail price estimate. I don't know if they can even make us 4x10 stones but those would be very pricey.

Thoughts????

Ron
Yes!!!! Id buy em...3x8 is a good size
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: sticbow on September 02, 2011, 08:45:00 PM
i would love a 3x8 stone..to me that would be perfect..as long as i could get a med an fine
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: vintage archer on September 02, 2011, 09:14:00 PM
Ron I would like to see the 3x8 also.Perfect for high MA broadheads.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: Steve Clandinin on September 02, 2011, 10:36:00 PM
Ron,If you bring in a 3x8 mark me down for one.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: amar911 on September 02, 2011, 10:57:00 PM
Ron,

The 4"x10" would be nice, but I would definitely go for the 3"x8" stones if they were available.

Allan
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: americanhunter7 on September 02, 2011, 11:16:00 PM
I'd buy one for sure!!! It's nice to have that little extra room.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: Kentucky Jeff on September 03, 2011, 09:12:00 AM
Couple of thoughts...I have found nothing better than Japanese water stones--the synthetic kind.

For most sharpening you can get away with a 600 and a 1,000 grit.  In 600 grit I like the Beston.  In 1,000 grit I use a King.  If you shop around you might be able to find a combination stone with two grits on either side.  japanwoodworker.com  is a good site for buying stones as well...

If you really want to do it right you need to flatten your stone from time to time.  I use a 120 grit DMT XXC diamond plate for that purpose.  If you use a stone repeatedly it will develop a dished out shape and its impossible to sharpen properly on a stone that isn't flat.  Not only that but you are actually wearing out the stone prematurely by not flattening it.

I leave most of my waterstones soaking in a bucket of water otherwise the need to soak for about 15 minutes before you can use them.   Also I use a very simple setup for sharpening with a stone holder I made out of common pine boards and a few deck screws in about 5 minutes.  The tub it sits on is a plastic bus bin from a restaurant supply store (~$12  a couple of those bins are also great for boning out a deer FWIW)

  (http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff88/Shelbyskinner/IMG_0057.jpg)

A good place to buy your stones is chefsknivestogo.com
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: Kentucky Jeff on September 03, 2011, 09:13:00 AM
Double tap
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: Kentucky Jeff on September 03, 2011, 09:18:00 AM
I also highly recommend the Murray Carter "Introduction to Knife Sharpening" video.....FWIW

Just google it...you can probably find a used copy on some of the knife forums...
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: kibok&ko on September 03, 2011, 10:36:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sharpster:
Okay,

As I've often said, everyone wants a big 'ol stone till they find out how much they cost...

Q. Suppose we were to offer the KME "Super-Tuff" Aluminum oxide stones in a larger size... Would 3x8 be adequate? I'm guessing that these would be around $30-$35 each. You guys know I won't put our name on anything less than top quality or sell anything that's not made in the USA and because of this, I'm pretty sure that would be a close retail price estimate. I don't know if they can even make us 4x10 stones but those would be very pricey.

Thoughts????

Ron
hello Ron, i would like one ....   :wavey:
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: Lin Rhea on September 03, 2011, 10:56:00 AM
For information purposes only, because each has his/her preference.

For general sharpening, I like an India stone in about 320 grit and then go to a medium/soft Arkansas stone. Both are available in rather large sizes. Mine are 3 X 12 X 1 inch thick. Mine are full size and first runs. I have medium soft, white transluscent, and black surgical, but dont use the last two except on small hunters and capers. I check the guys who quarry and lap the natural stones. Sometimes they have "seconds" that are much more reasonable and they are still great stones. I believe the natural stones are getting rare and the synthetics will eventually replace them. The synthetics are very good too.

Sometimes a hunting knife or broadhead does need the angle reset and you just cant beat the KME for that. If Ron can start offering larger stones, they will be good ones and his service is the absolute best.

A clean stone cuts better and always get a burr before dropping on down to the next stone.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: bretto on September 03, 2011, 04:50:00 PM
I use a KME sharpener for all My knives and two blade heads. But I also have a large 3X8" diamond stone that I think is made by Smith.

I use the large stone for My 3 blade heads.

Wingnut used to list a large DMT stone under their Helle blade and sharpener link. Check the Dryad link in the Sponsers section.

bretto
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: emac396 on September 03, 2011, 08:17:00 PM
Yes I would buy and glad to hear USA only.
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: b.glass on September 04, 2011, 06:48:00 AM
I've talked to Ron recently. He knows I'd buy one.

Bona
Title: Re: Large Sharpening Stone
Post by: kibok&ko on September 04, 2011, 07:55:00 AM
keep us posted / 35 USD/  3X8 / made in america & from KME i hope you post it oversea !