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Title: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: huntin_sparty on August 28, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
I am new to trad gear still (2nd season) and love it from many standpoints but one is that I always will be learning/improving and never fully master it.  
Anyhow I hunt primarily and try to shoot broadheads as much as possible and when I go scouting, set up ground blinds, check on trail cams, I now bring my bow (never would have thought of before when I shot wheels) and do what I think is stump shooting.  Picking dead stumps, uprooted tree bases, dead trees laying down.
Anyhow I used broadheads and hot melt, ended up every stump I shot the adapter would separate from the broadhead and I would spend much of my time carving out my broadhead from the stump.

I posted about those issues before, epoxy was suggested so I used that.  I was pleasantly surprised the broadheads werent pulling out like the melt, but over the course of 2 days in the woods and 40 shots the broadheads didnt separate from the insert but the insert SHEERED off where threads for the screws started on 2 broadheads!

When you stump shoot do you actually shoot stumps?
Anyone have the insert breakoff in the broadhead?  
JB Weld in not heat reverseable how do I get the insert out or am I out of luck?
Broadhead is Eclipse 2 blade with bleeder and aluminum inserts from 3 rivers.
Thanks,
Andrew
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: TAWL on August 28, 2011, 11:18:00 AM
Switch to judos. They will fly great and prevent deep penetration. Save your broadheads for foam and flesh.   :archer2:
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: bentpole on August 28, 2011, 11:22:00 AM
Only judos or blunts for stumping! You'll go broke shooting stumps with broadheads!!!
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: Rick Butler on August 28, 2011, 11:26:00 AM
I would'nt be shootin stumps with broadheads, save those for the real deal.  I shoot at either fine sand or foam when I practice with BH's.
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: NoCams on August 28, 2011, 11:27:00 AM
Order some Hammers from 3 Rivers, great stumping head. As TAWL said hard to beat a judo too, especailly if you are in any high grass or weeds.Never ever lost a judo cause we couldn't find it.

We like the Hammers cause we can get them in the heavier weight and they can also be used for small game. Indestructable too.
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: huntin_sparty on August 28, 2011, 11:30:00 AM
That would cut down 10 minutes of digging broadheads out of stumps!
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: StanM on August 28, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
I shoot my small game heads when stump shooting, like other have suggested.  However, I do shoot broadheads a lot in the woods as well.  I've got a couple that I don't sharpen for just this purpose and this time of year I like to shoot broadheads almost exclusively.  The key to doing that is picking targets that are broadhead friendly.  I walk in behind locked gates a lot to hunt and find the dirt banks along the roads are excellent for shooting broadheads into.  Ocassionally, I'll hit a rock, but not often.  Downhill shots into pine duff and dirt are good to when stumping as the arrows don't snake under and are easy to find.

If you want to shoot stumps, use a blunt type head.  If you do want to shoot broadheads for practice, shoot dirt  :)
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: Rob W. on August 28, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
I use field points. Judos don't come in my broadhead weights and I like a bow quiver. Broadheads work if you shoot at softer stuff like leaves and dirt banks. Paint a couple old heads a different color when season comes in so you dont confuse your stumpers. Rob
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: DHR on August 28, 2011, 12:54:00 PM
I also do alot of "stump" shooting w/ broadheads.  As others have mentioned target selection is key.  I rarely actually shoot a broadhead into a stump unless it's super punky, instead I look for dirt/sand/duff- anything that will absorb a broadhead and still let me pull it out.  I almost always check my targets through binos first.  really helps cut down on broken arrows and heads.  I too use hot melt and almost never have a problem.
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: Oregon Okie on August 28, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
depends on your stumps. In Oregon there are lots of old rotten stumps all covered in moss and junk. they are cool to shoot.. sometimes even get a pass through.. Solid stumps.. different story. Haven't checked out utah stumps but around where I am I am guessing it's rocky and more like "clump shooting" we shall see.
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: Terry Lightle on August 28, 2011, 02:01:00 PM
Judos for me,I shoot 160 grain broadheads so I use a powder scale and measure #8 birdshot and melt it and pour it in the ferrul of my judo before I glue it on my shaft to make it weigh the same as my Woodsman broadhead
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: Earl E. Nov...mber on August 28, 2011, 03:21:00 PM
Yeah you are taking it too literally,,Stump shooting use to be called "Roving" and probably should still  be,,
You can shoot any target of opportunity while roving, a dead leaf,a dirt clod, a cow pie, hedge apple or a pop can some one left behind, etc.. All fair targets for your broadhead.. If you want to shoot dead tree parts,, yes change to judos, Ace hex heads or others designed for the job.
Title: Re: Am I doing something wrong, taking stump shooting to literal!
Post by: Don Stokes on August 28, 2011, 06:57:00 PM
I do all of my "stump shooting" with judos, and I never shoot actual stumps! With a judo you can shoot at practically anything, and if you do shoot something solid it's a lot easier to get out than most heads. I have no trouble shifting to broadheads. I glue up a judo with every set of broadhead arrows I make, and I shoot them together to make sure they shoot the same.