Can anyone recommend a good screw in broad head?
Steelforce makes a very tough 175 and 190 grain BH for carbon and aluminum shafts.. it's called the Phathead.. the blade is .080" thick compared to other's .035"
The terminator by VPA is as good as it gets. Incredibly tough, easy to sharpen, spins perfect.
Only problem is there is a lot of blood clean up to be done before you can take good pictures.
bigjim
VPA's for me.
I'm partial to Zwickey.
Zwickey Green 2 Blade - 170 Gr.
Zwickey Green 2 Blade - 170 Gr X 2
Zwickey or Magnus for me.
VPA Terminators for me!!
Steel Force Premium 2 or 4 blade. Bought 3 for 20.50
VPA all the way!!
I've gone back to Muzzy Broadheads. Great products, good price and awesome service.
Zwickey Eskimo 4 blade
Zwickey 2 bld delta 170gr.
those VPA's look pretty serious for sure. I did some tests with zwickeys and deer bones and let me say I was not too impressed.
Wensel Woodsman Elite. I like the 175gr. non-vented head for a screw on.
Muzzy three blade.
VPA. you can not do any better.
Muzzy 4 blade use them alot long time ago just went back this year . 28 bucks for 6
If you like two blade heads the Ace 160's are a great buy.
QuoteOriginally posted by BigJim:
The terminator by VPA is as good as it gets. Incredibly tough, easy to sharpen, spins perfect.
Only problem is there is a lot of blood clean up to be done before you can take good pictures.
bigjim
Listen to Jim, he speaks the truth. Don't skimp on broadheads.
Magnus Stingers
Grizzly in weights from 150-200 are still about 25-26 bucks for six heads
I've got tons that are 8-10 years old
Ray's telling the truth,, I seen multiple bags of 10 at his camp,, I thought to myself "does this guy know something I don't" anyway How can ya forget Magnus 1's??? for the money NOTHING beats Magnus Broadheads in cost, sharpness, toughness and overall quality..
and honestly I don't currently shoot them on any of my arrows ,, but if I was short on money and need the best for my buck it would be magnus without a doubt.
2 blade - Magnus 125, 140, & Stingers
3 blade - Woodsman 150 & 200
Old green Bear Razorheads. I find old arrows at yard sales for about 5 bucks for 10 or so (done this a couple times ) and have had them given to me by old hunters for free. Get the short screw in adapters from 3R and presto!
Magnus for me.
I second the old bear razor heads. I went on a search and now have a life time supply
Snuffers & Woodsmans. Easy to sharpen. Hold an edge. Nice hole in & out. Been using Woodsmans for a while. I really like them.
VPA
VPA for sure. I strayed and tried Zwickey in Alaska last year and immediately regretted it. Unless you lose them I don't see how you could damage one without a sledge hammer and good anvil involved.
You can buy cheap often, or buy quality once. I prefer the latter when my hunting is involved...
Good luck guys.
Take a 2 blade STOS glue on broadhead (130, 145 & 160 grains) and glue it to a 36 or 42 grain screw in long broadhead adapter and you've got yourself a very strong screw in broadhead where the tips won't curl, it's easy to sharpen and they fly great.
Zwickey 2 bld delta 170gr
I just bought 3 packs of these and they'll be my #1 head this fall I think
zwickey No Mercy , stos 160, Grizlly and the original eclipse ...
and in the fancy chapter the Muzzy Phantom 220 grs
after in the expensive chapter you have the VPA/woodsman elite (they are the same)in the non vented area and off course the anti-tank Abowyer ...
2 Blade
Zwickey Delta
Grizzly El Grande
Three blade
Woodsman
Snuffer
These have killed everything on the planet. There are more expensive versions, but they don't make anything any deader. I generally prefer the two blade heads, but I've killed deer with Woodsman and Snuffers too.
X 2 on the STOS 160's
I have been happy with Stos Lately,
I'd listen to Ray though.
VPA products are the best, bar none. This year I'll be using 150 grain VPA Terminators. I can't say enough about how impressive these heads are.
2 Blade 170 grain Zwickey Delta.
MAGNUS I
The Ace Standard 2 blade head is one of the best buys and most underrated heads on the market. Tough as nails and have been taking game for years. 125 grain with screw in adaptors that weigh about 35 grains for a total weight of 160 grains. Hard to beat for the price. :thumbsup:
Simmons,Muzzy,Woodsman, Zwickey....heck they all good when you put them in the right place.RC
Stos, and Woodsmans for me!
I use the Grizzlys right now but they aren't available.Of the 2 blade heads the STOS is super quality for the price.
Your gonna get a million answers here.
I'm hunting with WW's this year...
Zbearclaw, I have NEVER heard of anyone regretting using a Zwickey broadhead. You've gotta give us more info than that! Lets hear what happened.............
We are lucky to bowhunt in a time when so many fine broadheads are available. I haven't seen a bad one mentioned yet.
I'll be shooting the 1 1/4" VPA 200 grain head I got from Big Jim, an experimental head from Redfeather and if I run out of those, my old standard Magnus I.
Ill be shooting Simmons' Landshark 165's this fall. I also bought some Woodsman Elites and Steelforce Phathead 145's to try out later on.
I am a bit surprised that no one has mentioned Tuskers.
yeah no takers on tuskers or slick tricks?
Magnus or ACE. Out of the two I give the nod to ACE for cost effectiveness. They are tough!
Razorcaps...200 grains.
QuoteOriginally posted by YORNOC:
Zbearclaw, I have NEVER heard of anyone regretting using a Zwickey broadhead. You've gotta give us more info than that! Lets hear what happened.............
(http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu112/ZekeB/b82c71ed.jpg)
Tip curled on a rear rib of an old Sitka buck on Kodiak Island. I was lucky it was razor sharp and missed the ribs on the entrance. I was really surprised it happened but the outcome was still a good one.
Took that pic back in Kodiak after we got back to town. I got a mess of sharpened Delta's I'll never hunt with again after that...
What RC said, in the right spot, DEAD ....
I know there are lot of people who love them, but the only time I used Zwickey's the ferrells blew out on several of the heads; just can't bring myself to trust them now.
My blade of preference is the Eclipse (4 blade) followed by either Charlies Magnus 1 or the Woodsman.
As you can see below, I fall into RC's camp.
Best buy for the money? Check these out. http://www.3riversarchery.com/Broadheads+Points+4-Blade+Screw-In+Steel+Force+Hellfire++Screw-in_c57_s268_p298_i5793_product.html
I have shot these Steel Force heads quite a bit, and they perform exceptionally well in deer sized animals. Best thing about them is their price of $17 for three, or around $8 each. I have killed several deer with these heads and just needed a few minutes to get them back to shaving sharp. I sometimes pay six times as much for broadheads to get really good ones for much larger animals, but for deer, bear, or even elk, these work very well and are definitely a "best buy."
VPA, ABS, Abowyer, Tuffhead, 300 Xtreem, Wensel Woodsman, Silver Flame, and other super premium beads are the ones I like to shoot, but I would not say it is necessary to spend that much money on a good broadhead for deer sized animals. Most of the time I do, but I'm more interested in fail proof performance than I am in saving money. There are lots of good broadheads for the smaller to medium sized North American animals.
Allan
I just ordered some 200 VPA broadheads cant wait to try them out
I have been using Ribtek broadheads for over twenty years and since 1996 have used the 190 W's - excellent head IMO.
Jeff
I shot a 220 pound buck once with an original wasp broadhead, long shot with a Schulz longbow, the green things with the little razors held in with the copper spring thing. One blade stayed outside on the hair, one stuck to a rib, the third blade broke in half and just had a little jagged thing left that went through the heart. The buck went down in 15 yards. Everything I have used since then has been better. As far as Zwickeys go, I have blasted a Delta mounted on stuffed Microflite 12s through both shoulder bones on a large buck with a 96 pound Jerry Hill and the head suffered no damage at all. I am surprised to hear that they ever fail. It is still the first broadhead I recommend to those who are just getting into this trad thing.
I have had good results with a Magnus Stinger, but this year I'm shooting a Centaur Big Game Head.
And the winner is ----- RC
QuoteOriginally posted by RC:
Simmons,Muzzy,Woodsman, Zwickey....heck they all good when you put them in the right place.RC
Here's a heads up for bowhunters who love the Magnus heads.
Mike Sohm wrote me this. "If you were not aware, we have sold the Magnus Traditional line, which includes the original Snuffer and the MA series of broadheads. The new ownership is: ThunderValley Archery. DeRidder, La.
Apparently the deal is done and Thunder Valley is in full production and responsibility.
He also wrote.
"Thundervalley Archery will be using left over stock of the blister cards which show our Magnus logo on them, however you will be able to tell if we made them versus thundervalley, because on thundervalleys they will have their sticker on the back of the package."
He also asked me to have everyone pass the word.
Money doesn't factor in my broadhead choice,I have settled on zwickey 4 blds after shooting about everything else. Sharpening is tough but once you get the hang of it they are great. I don't like the big delta's because I feel like I can't get as good flight out of them.
Snuffers is what I shoot. Steelforce does make a nice head and I shot them for years, now Snuffers. Shawn
Zbearclaw, KEY info to pass on for us to consider. Thanks.
Zwickey Delta's all the way 170g.
I'm partial to my 190 grain Grizzly El Grande's. Problem is know one is sure what's going on with the production of these heads! I've got enough to last me a while.
Glenn
magnus snuffers for years. both screw in and glue on.
whats the deal with theThundervalley Archery tho?
Zwickey Eskimos at 160 gr. for me and Eskilites at 135 grain for my son.
Hey Mr. Lamb, just wondering if you know if ThunderValley has a lifetime guarantee on their new "Magnus" broadheads?
OK... I'll add the Zypher heads... Sasquatch and Scirocco. I love em and have kill a good bunch of stuff with em. I like hollow ground edges.
If ya get in a pinch you can stone em into flat ground edges and they have been a tough head for me.
Can't say i used them or would want to pay for them, but i hear alot of praise for Silver Flames on other sites.
Used to be Grizzly's but can't get them anymore... Now its Concorde's for me......
wow Im glad to see I finally made a significant post haha!!!
I hunt in some very thick stuff in a river valley where sometimes all you get is a head or spine shot. I decided to do an experiment with an old doe skull and zwickey 125 grains on a heavy hickory shaft. COULD NOT penetrate the brain cavity at point blank range. Not once. All it did was deflect and mutilate the facial bones and on a live animal would have left horrific injuries. I need a "head and spine shot" worthy broadhead. Think Im gonna go with either slick tricks or VPA.
SuperK... there's a lot I don't know about the sale except Thunder Valley has the product line already mentioned and it would appear that they will be using existing stock of packaging.
What they intend after that is anybody's guess. I think the lifetime guarantee is a good idea but don't know what their plans are.
I wish them well.
Thank you for your reply Mr. Lamb.
Yeah, but I'd feel better if you called me Charlie!
;) :wavey:
Zwickey Delta 170g screw in.
VPAs are as good as it gets when it comes to design,construction quality, and price.
QuoteOriginally posted by bucksbuouy:
I need a "head and spine shot" worthy broadhead. Think Im gonna go with either slick tricks or VPA.
:eek: :nono: Your kidding right?
QuoteOriginally posted by owlbait:
QuoteOriginally posted by bucksbuouy:
I need a "head and spine shot" worthy broadhead. Think Im gonna go with either slick tricks or VPA.
:eek: :nono: Your kidding right? [/b]
If this is the case, may I sugges a 230 grain partitioned boattail in caliber .308?
I've shot many brands over the years. I have no complaints with most of them. I shoot 2-blade, single bevel 100-125 grain Helix broadheads (depends upon the arrow) these days now that my KE is cut nearly in half.
"Z"
SNUFFER
As of now, its the STOS for me. I epoxy the 130's to a 75grn steel adapter. I swear they fly more true than my field points....hmmm!
If i was shooting 110# @ 30" i would try the Ashby 315gr.It be about 1/3 your arrow weight.
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Originally posted by bucksbuouy:
I need a "head and spine shot" worthy broadhead. Think Im gonna go with either slick tricks or VPA.
REALLY!?
:nono: :nono: :nono:
3 arrows-
I would love to go with a heavy head but I dont think I could find a shaft thats stiff enough. I would think even a 125# spine couldnt support a head like that out of my bow.
Like I said I hunt in very thick stuff with really an overwhelmingly high deer population. They dont call it Bucks county for nothing I guess. I am getting very close and spine and head shots are often available where as heart shot are not. Many contemporary, more accurate archers utilize spine shots because they kill very quickly and humanely. I took my first deer with a shot to the jugular. Dropped like a stone.
havnt killed anything with them but the tusker concoreds fly awsome. if i can ever get them sharp enough they would be great. slowly getting there
HEAD AND SPINE SHOTS????????? UNREAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD LUCK WITH THAT EVERY DEER I HAD SEEN WITH A SPINE SHOT DIDN'T EXPIRE QUICKLY AND NEEDED A FOLLOW UP SHOT. IF I WERE YOU I WOULD FIND A NEW SPOT!!!! WHERE YOU COULD TAKE AN ETHICAL SHOT. (HEART/LUNGS)
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Originally posted by bucksbuouy:
I need a "head and spine shot" worthy broadhead. Think Im gonna go with either slick tricks or VPA.
This is a "no no" shot for any archer. Our only consistant way to kill an animal is to hit in the vitals with a razor sharp broadhead. Shooting at the spine will lead to lots of lost and wounded deer which gives our sport a very bad name. As for head shots I do not believe there is any broadhead on the planet that will consistantly penetrate the skull of an animal. My grandfather shoots a 338-378 Weatherby magnum rifle and he shot a hog in the head last year and the bullet only made it half way through the skull. There was at one time a picture on the internet of a goose that was in a town park that had an arrow stuck through it's head. This gives bowhunting in general a bad name. It is basically giving the anti-hunters the weapons they need. If you or anyone else was to go around shooting animals in the head with arrows and they run-off and get put on the news (or any type of media for that instance). It could mean the end of bowhunting for everyone. Please be more considerate of the animals you hunt and only make clean ethical shots. We must all remember as well that we represent a part of the hunting community and in general. If even one hunter does something that goes wrong and the media gets ahold of it they use it to represent the whole hunting community in general. So if you can not respect the animals you are hunting enough to make clean ethical shots. Then please respect the other hunters in the woods enough to not make mistakes as big as these you have mentioned.
Couldn't agree more.
@ JamesKerr :thumbsup: :clapper:
Well said Jameskerr. We hunters have enough issues to deal with without having irresponsible hunters in the woods. :nono:
Hit the nail on the head brother!!! :clapper:
I cant post pics but my friend and I did achieve total penetration and pass through with field points on a skull. I would imagine many of the modern design broad heads would give similar results. I do hear what you guys are saying but if someone could give me one good reason as to why shooting an animal in the head or spine is an unreasonable way to kill it I would love to hear about it. The goose story sort of... falls short. And I have found a number of post archery season deer carcasses, not recovered by the hunter, all likely from bad shots at the heart. So a good shot is a good shot and a bad one is a bad one. No matter what your aiming at. So if I can put a broadhead in a deer's ear hole it will end up just as dead as when someone put one in its heart.
QuoteOriginally posted by bucksbuouy:
I decided to do an experiment with an old doe skull and zwickey 125 grains on a heavy hickory shaft. COULD NOT penetrate the brain cavity at point blank range. Not once. All it did was deflect and mutilate the facial bones and on a live animal would have left horrific injuries.
This sounds like a pretty good reason and you came up with it yourself.
IF you could put an arrow in the deer earhole consistently, why not just clip the artery coming out of the heart?
If you miss the artery by a half inch you would still probably get the heart. If you miss the theoretical perfect "earhole" shot that would put the deer down there's a good chance the arrow glances off. I think to be able to pull off a shot that good you would almost have to be able to robin hood every shot at whatever distance you would want to shoot the deer. You would have to be able to hit the 14 ring on every shot on a 3d range.
Why would you try to make an easy shot so hard? (heart/vitals vs earhole)
If the cover your hunting is so thick, why not cut some better shooting lanes? (if your hunting from a deer stand)
I had a cousin try a head shot at a doe at less then 10 yards with a compound, the arrow glanced off the skull.
Bucksbuoy:
I did not say that the shot was impossible, but that it is impossible to make consistantly. You are correct that there have been many deer wounded when the hunter just missed his mark. However, if there was a better place to shoot an animal I think someone would have figured it out by now.
Only you can decide how ethical or unethical a shot is. Nobody else will be able to convince you otherwise. Broadheads are made to kill by terminally disrupting the circulatory or respiratory systems. Head shots and spine shots don't fit what b'hs are designed to do. SOMETIMES the results are the same, but in many cases they are not.
Add another for Zwickey 2 blade.
1 more vote for VPA's.
My favorite is a 1 1/4" dia. 250gn. screw-in :thumbsup:
Gene :coffee:
Magnus stingers and are they still keeping the stinger line , love those heads.
Magnus (Mike Sohm) will continue to produce the Stinger, Buzzcut and Bullhead.
Before we left Africa our PH had us all shoot into an elephants shoulder blade, the only head that could be used after shooting was a Zwicky Delta 4 blade.
QuoteOriginally posted by mnbwhtr:
Before we left Africa our PH had us all shoot into an elephants shoulder blade, the only head that could be used after shooting was a Zwicky Delta 4 blade.
:clapper:
QuoteOriginally posted by mnbwhtr:
Before we left Africa our PH had us all shoot into an elephants shoulder blade, the only head that could be used after shooting was a Zwicky Delta 4 blade.
Do you recall what other blades were shot?
Before we left Africa our PH had us all shoot into an elephants shoulder blade, the only head that could be used after shooting was a Zwicky Delta 4 blade.
I would like to know as well what other bh's were used in this testing.
I'll bet the new Tuffhead would pass!
I was shooting ribtek 145's, folded over about in half, the others were shooting Bear razorhead, also folded up and rocky mountain titanium 4 blade, the nosesmashed up on that one.
The 4th person was shooting the zwicky's.
Ready7 to shoot screw in I would opt for BuzzCuts. Screw in resharpenable would be Zwickie Eskimos or Deltas . Take pick.
Biting my tongue on the head shot thing. I saw a deer shot in the jaw by a guy trying that once. It was not a pretty scene. I'll leave it at that. God bless you all, Steve
QuoteOriginally posted by Huntschool:
OK... I'll add the Zypher heads... Sasquatch and Scirocco. I love em and have kill a good bunch of stuff with em. I like hollow ground edges.
If ya get in a pinch you can stone em into flat ground edges and they have been a tough head for me.
Just received 9 sasquatch from Horne's yesterday. I think I paid $90 including shipping which is about all I would spend on broadheads. They look great for deer. They were hair popping right out of the package, but I plan on polishing them further with a paper wheel. This will be the first year that I will use them. First impression is very good.
QuoteOriginally posted by BobCo 1965:
QuoteOriginally posted by Huntschool:
OK... I'll add the Zypher heads... Sasquatch and Scirocco. I love em and have kill a good bunch of stuff with em. I like hollow ground edges.
If ya get in a pinch you can stone em into flat ground edges and they have been a tough head for me.
Just received 9 sasquatch from Horne's yesterday. I think I paid $90 including shipping which is about all I would spend on broadheads. They look great for deer. They were hair popping right out of the package, but I plan on polishing them
further with a paper wheel. This will be the first year that I will
use them. First impression is very good. [/b]
I have tried the sasquatches , and was disappointed that the welds broke! I looked it up, and it seems there has been issues with the welds on them. I was disappointed, and could not risk it anymore! I do have several new ones, if you are interested on them .
QuoteOriginally posted by BobCo 1965:
QuoteOriginally posted by Huntschool:
OK... I'll add the Zypher heads... Sasquatch and Scirocco. I love em and have kill a good bunch of stuff with em. I like hollow ground edges.
If ya get in a pinch you can stone em into flat ground edges and they have been a tough head for me.
Just received 9 sasquatch from Horne's yesterday. I think I paid $90 including shipping which is about all I would spend on broadheads. They look great for deer. They were hair popping right out of the package, but I plan on polishing them
further with a paper wheel. This will be the first year that I will
use them. First impression is very good. [/b]
I have tried the sasquatches , and was disappointed that the welds broke! I looked it up, and it seems there has been issues with the welds on them. I was disappointed, and could not risk it anymore! I do have several new ones, if you are interested in them .
QuoteOriginally posted by frassettor:
QuoteOriginally posted by BobCo 1965:
QuoteOriginally posted by Huntschool:
OK... I'll add the Zypher heads... Sasquatch and Scirocco. I love em and have kill a good bunch of stuff with em. I like hollow ground edges.
If ya get in a pinch you can stone em into flat ground edges and they have been a tough head for me.
Just received 9 sasquatch from Horne's yesterday. I think I paid $90 including shipping which is about all I would spend on broadheads. They look great for deer. They were hair popping right out of the package, but I plan on polishing them
further with a paper wheel. This will be the first year that I will
use them. First impression is very good. [/b]
I have tried the sasquatches , and was disappointed that the welds broke! I looked it up, and it seems there has been issues with the welds on them. I was disappointed, and could not risk it anymore! I do have several new ones, if you are interested in them . [/b]
Yikes! Did they fail in the field, or on targets? I am not sure that I woudl use them on anything other then deer ot turkey. I thought the weld looked pretty good. Hope I don't have the same experience though.
I have had the same thing happen with sasquatch's . the blade broke loose from the furrel (sp) on several heads, i have lost the main blade in a bear and a deer, Talked to hornes and they felt i may have been getting them to hot while mounting them, so I epoxied the next few but had the same results, one in a foam target. Its a shame, they are a killing head with precision mounting and fly great.
head and spine shots...sounds like someone should be cutting shooting lanes,and prepping his hunting area before season
A head shot on a deer isn't even a good idea with a rifle. There is just too much margin for error. I have found several deer over the years that had faulty shots into their head. Usually the shot just damages the face or jaw leaving the animal to suffer for days before eventually dying.
I think its an ego thing, too many people watching sniper movies and wanting to be "as cool". Seriously get over yourself and take the vital shot.
QuoteI have tried the sasquatches , and was disappointed that the welds broke! I looked it up, and it seems there has been issues with the welds on them. I was disappointed, and could not risk it anymore! I do have several new ones, if you are interested on them .
That's what stops me from buying Abowers, it looks like a weak point to me and I've seen a couple posts where folks have complained about it. Tuffheads look like tanks but I wish they made them 1 1/4" wide...can't please everyone. So I shoot STOS or cough up the cash for Asbey's
I'm still using the old bear razorheads. Their all I need for what I hunt.
doug77
Muzzy Phantom 4 blade, fly great for me.
The 32 deer I did test on with zwickeys were devastated with them. I like zwickeys deer don't!
Magnus, tough and easy to sharpen.
got got some VPA Penetrators and they are AWESOME. super tough!!!
For the money Stos, Zwickey, Eclipse or Magnus are hard to beat.
If Mark Horne would ever fix the weld on the Zephyrs they would probably be a top 3 broadhead.
The old Zephyrs were brazed (?). There were old pictures posted somewhere that showed the difference and it was significant. Apparently you couldn't destroy the old Zephyrs if you tried but the new ones just pop off. Probably because of the middle school metal shop weld job. For the price he is asking it is unacceptable. I will still use the ones I have left but won't be buying anymore.
For most NA game I would recommend Zwickey, Magnus, Stingers, or Simmons. Priced right, good quality, perform well.
This went from a "broadhead" thread to a "shoot them in the head" thread rather quickly.... glad most dismissed the idea for reality! A little surprised that Bill C is the only guy beside me using Razorcaps. I really like the head- did break one on a cider block- just testing it.
Zwickey Delta 170 2 blade
I dont shoot any screw in heads. I like to use a 42 grain bh adapter and shoot a STOS 160. They sharpen easy and fly like field points. By using the adapters I can easily line my heads up either vertically or horizonal without messing with the insert.
Zwickey 2 blade Deltas, 170 grain. Pretty easy to sharpen and good flight.
I have made all my kills with Wensel Woodsmans. Used them mainly because it was the only BH I could get sharp enough. I'm taking razor sharp Grizzly El Grandes to the woods this season.
I tried to make a rough count. It's not precise but:
Zwickey 27, Magnus 18, VPA 17, WW 13, STOS 10, Grizzly 8, each of the rest got 4 votes or less.
This includes the 25 BH in all that were mentioned with positive comments.
I didn't differentiate bewteen vented vs unvented, deltas vs eskimo...
My conclusion...to each his/her own. It seems that it's the old standbys vs the new guys.
Sorry, missed one, Muzzy got 8 votes.
Magnus stingers get my vote. Just started using them 2 years ago and had excellent results. Very easy to sharpen and fly like a field tip.
Before that it was the original Magnus 2 blade or Zwickey.
Woodsman's for 3 blades, Zwickey for 2 and 4.
Grizzley's and no bent tips. Use them over and over. Usually I lose them and have to replace.
Ace Standard with a screw in adapter......cant go wrong with Ace buddy
Ace or STOS.
Magnus stingers 125/150 gr
I'm partial to the Woodsman.