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Title: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Flying Dutchman on July 25, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
As some of you might know, I live in The Netherlands. I wrote some reviews on Tradgang and suddenly there was that e-mail from Hubert from Germany. I never met this guy or knew who he was. However, he explained he had read my reviews on Tradgang and had some questions about my Peregrine. This is how our correspondence started.
We mailed a lot and spoke about visiting each other.  We picked a date: the 23rd of July. Hubert would visit me, which meant a four hours drive for him. He could stay with us during the night and leave again on Sunday.

He brought three beautiful bows with him: a Centaur Carbon Elite 60" 50@28", an A&H ACS CX 62"55@28 takedown longbow and an Eaglewing Talon 11 60" 50@28. Add to that my Cari-bow Peregrine (62"45@29)and one could say we had some fine representatives of the best of the best from the US...
I added also a Grozer Hungarian Horse bow from 50lbs@28inches and for nostalgic reasons my first Longbow I ever owned, a Bearpaw Raven (German brand) from 38 lbs @28 inches.

Here we are sitting in our garden, admiring our collection:
    (http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4563/dscf1299large.jpg)


And then it was time for a shoot. We grabbed our bows and arrows, took four 3D animals with us, managed to get it all in Hubert's car, and off we went.

We went to my training dome, the old factory, only a five minutes drive. For those who "haven't been there", take a look at my review of the Peregrine in the review dept. I am testing it there. In this factory it is always dry and you can shoot till 67 meter (73 yards).
We shot from 13.00 till 18.00 hours     :eek:     . Afterwards we tried to recalculate how many arrows we must have shot and we think 500 pro person is a safe assumption     :archer2:     . It was shear madness! I started with the ACS, curious if I, with my 30 inch draw, could handle the poundage which would go up to 60lbs. No problem at all, to my astonishment I could draw it to 30 inch with ease. It shoots like a dream. Moved over to the Centaur. I am sorry to say this, but this isn't my bow. To less mass, too sensible and absolutely not forgiving anything. Moved over to the Eaglewing. This bow shoots like a machine; I was shooting very small groups with it from the beginning as if this was my own bow I had for years already. I switched a few times, but I kept coming back to this Eaglewing which probably was delivering a respectable 55 lbs at my drawlenght. I never imagined I could draw that weight with so much ease.
Hubert shot my Peregrine like a trusted friend and every shot amazed him. He was shooting it very good, very tight groups also and I could see he was falling in love. We started at 15 meter, went to 22, to 30, to 37, to 45, to 52, , to 60, to 68.
We kept hitting our targets! Alas I forgot to take my camara with me, so we have no pics from this. We shot in a high tempo, 7 arrows after each other within a minute. We started a little game:  beginning at 15 meter and when you shot a kill, go further to the next distance, working our way up to the 73 yards. I can tell you Hubert is hard to beat; after all he is one of Germany finest Archers, who won a LOT of tournaments. Well, let's just say he thought the same thing about me and we did equally well. .
After five hours and 500 arrows each, we were dead-tired. None of us had ever shot that much or that long.    :nono:    


    (http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6471/dscf1301large.jpg)
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: BEN on July 25, 2011, 03:11:00 PM
:campfire:  

Now that's what it's all about!!
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: DannyBows on July 25, 2011, 03:17:00 PM
That is just a cool story! The 'Brotherhood of the Bow' knows no borders.

That's an awesome line-up of bows there. Thanks for sharing with us!    :clapper:    :archer2:
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Post by: SlowArrow on July 25, 2011, 03:20:00 PM
Great story!  Thanks for sharing it.......
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Post by: Piratkey on July 25, 2011, 03:25:00 PM
I like too
Thanks
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Post by: SheltonCreeker on July 25, 2011, 03:44:00 PM
Good stuff right there! Thanks for posting!
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Post by: JohnnyWayne on July 25, 2011, 05:41:00 PM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Rob DiStefano on July 25, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
way cool, we're all 'brothers of the bow'!  thanx for sharing  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Jack Guard on July 25, 2011, 06:18:00 PM
:clapper:     Love it.  Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: sou-pawbowhunter on July 25, 2011, 06:20:00 PM
The mystical flight of the arrow has the power to transcend both border and tongue.  Thank you for reminding us.  :archer2:
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Post by: Lone Ranger on July 25, 2011, 08:07:00 PM
Very cool!
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Post by: jeff w on July 25, 2011, 08:19:00 PM
That is great, thank you for sharing.
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Post by: Archie on July 25, 2011, 08:33:00 PM
Sounds like you two had a great time!  

Archie
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Post by: bolong on July 25, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
:thumbsup:    :clapper:    :archer2:
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on July 25, 2011, 10:06:00 PM
;)     :campfire:    :goldtooth:
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Hubi on July 26, 2011, 02:11:00 AM
Hi Ad,
At first I want to say thank you so much  :thumbsup: ! Ad and his wife are very warm and beautiful people!
It was a magical weekend. And you all are right brotherhood of bows knows no borders.
It was exhausting but I still benefit from the energy it has given me.   :campfire:
Thank you again for this weekend Brother.
Hubert
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Flying Dutchman on July 26, 2011, 02:20:00 AM
And thanks to you too Hubert! Without you the magic wouldn't have been there! You are a great guy too! And always ready to help, no matter what!

I hope to see you often, my house is yours Bro!
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: GRINCH on July 26, 2011, 02:40:00 AM
There's nothing like a new friend with a shared interest,thats what trad gang is about making friends and memories.
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Flying Dutchman on July 26, 2011, 09:05:00 AM
Thank you all for your reactions!
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Manitoba Stickflinger on July 26, 2011, 09:39:00 AM
I married a 1/2 Dutch girl who's mother grew up in Holland. When we finally get there to visit I hope I too am invited to shoot in your personal archery range. Only thing is that I'm really good to 15 yards and that's it. One day!

Thanks for the post...Ryan
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: 2fletch on July 26, 2011, 10:14:00 AM
Flying Dutchman, It's great to hear a story of a traditional archery friendship from the other side of the Atlantic. Thanks for sharing. I see that you like my favorite image.  

 :clapper:    :archer2:
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Flying Dutchman on July 26, 2011, 01:37:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Manitoba Stickflinger:
I married a 1/2 Dutch girl who's mother grew up in Holland. When we finally get there to visit I hope I too am invited to shoot in your personal archery range. Only thing is that I'm really good to 15 yards and that's it. One day!

Thanks for the post...Ryan
Ryan, you are always welcome ofcourse.... now, what bow did you shoot again?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Manitoba Stickflinger on July 26, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
Ad, I knew you'd have open arms!

Bows??....I have a small collection of Tall Tines bows (longbow, and recurve....soon to be recurves) I will likely also have another Cari-bow some time this year as I miss my Wolverine. Looking into an Slynx, Peregrine, or Silver Fox...love all of them...Ryan
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Flying Dutchman on July 26, 2011, 02:27:00 PM
Ryan, I thought you were shooting a Silver-Fox already. I am saving money for that one... Maybe I should let out my gorgeous body for hire to some beautiful generous women.....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Manitoba Stickflinger on July 26, 2011, 02:30:00 PM
Ad...I think you should try that!LOL


One of my best buddies has a Silver Fox that I often shoot....and am always trying to buy off him. Good memory....Ryan
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Flying Dutchman on July 26, 2011, 02:34:00 PM
What's your draw Ryan? Iam between 29 and 30 and am wondering if a Silver Fox stacks at that lenght. I think I will have to take a 64"lenght then.

Did you ever compare a Silver-Fox with a Peregrine?
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Post by: Lucas K on July 26, 2011, 08:08:00 PM
Sounds like a great time, hope you get to visit again
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Post by: The Whittler on July 26, 2011, 08:46:00 PM
I guess it's true what they say about it being a small world. These times are fantastic.
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Post by: joekeith on July 26, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Brad Robins on July 27, 2011, 04:04:00 AM
Well that's just cool   :clapper:    :archer2:


Brad
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Post by: Howard S. on July 28, 2011, 03:32:00 PM
Hi Ad,
What part of the Netherlands are you from?  My wife to be is from Ede and we will be visiting her/your homeland in August.  We have an invite to shoot at an archery club there but I don't recall the name. I'm looking forward to seeing the Netherlands.

Howard
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Flying Dutchman on July 28, 2011, 03:35:00 PM
I am from the south, about an half hours drive from Antwerpen/Belgium.
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Post by: V-Archer on July 28, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
Hi Ad,

Am I invited too next time?   :campfire:  
I got some nice bows to show and shoot. You know I live in the eastern part of the Netherlands.
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Flying Dutchman on July 29, 2011, 01:38:00 AM
You are always welcome Arnold! Let me know when you're around...
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Post by: johnis on July 29, 2011, 05:45:00 AM
Great people+great bows=great time!!!
  :thumbsup:
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Post by: glass76 on July 29, 2011, 09:47:00 PM
That's great.   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: eidsvolling on July 29, 2011, 09:51:00 PM
Now this is a perfect mix of the traditional and the digital! Thanks very much for sharing.
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Post by: Blueridge on July 29, 2011, 10:35:00 PM
Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed that very much
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Post by: Straight Shootin' on July 30, 2011, 12:36:00 AM
Awesome story!
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Post by: Sixby on April 01, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
What an awsome story!!!! I am so jealous about not being there but the story you wrote is so complete and descriptive that I felt like I was.

However to shoot with two really great shooters like you guys. Well,. I just might have been embarressed if I was there. I think therefore that I will stick to building bows for you to shoot while watching from the sidelines as youyou shoot all those great bows.
I feel really blessed to hear my bow being even mentioned in the same compoany as CAribow and ACH and Centaur Ect.
I did Reccomend those bows and bowyers to Hubert because I do not build a bow that was legal in the class he wanted to compete in. I am designing a bow this year for that so that it will meet the specifications for the longbow. All the ones I build now have too much D and r. Of course that Aand H does too but it is one great bow design.

God bless you all, Steve
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Post by: The Whittler on April 01, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
It would of been great to just be there and watch and talk.
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Post by: Coonbait on April 01, 2012, 09:51:00 PM
Looks like you have a great looking collection there!
Glenn
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Post by: jackdaw on April 01, 2012, 10:24:00 PM
Sounds awesome guys.....just goes to show you tradgangers speak a universal language! It actually requires no audible language. Hopefully you two can come over here sometime for a Denton Hill, Compton, Cloverdale or some other large Trad gathering. We will make your arms fall off!!!Nice story.....John
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: Margly on April 02, 2012, 12:52:00 PM
:archer:
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Post by: Sixby on April 06, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
Happy Easter and
God'[s blessings to you all!!!

Hubert and Ad I have a thread with the new EagleWing Double carbon recurve and Paradox Walnut riser I was telling you about.
God bless you all, Steve
Title: Re: When European Tradgangers meet....
Post by: ChuckC on April 06, 2012, 11:13:00 PM
Thanks for that.  Pretty amazing that friends can meet on line like this.

ChuckC