I will have the prototype for our new 3 piece longbow at Denton Hill. Stop by and sling some arrows through it if you would like. I am looking for any and all input on this new bow.
This bow was designed to be converted into a 1 and 2 piece longbow. However, I like the 3 piece versions so much we are going to offer it as well.
The bow pictured is a 60" version.This new bow will be available in a 60" 62" and 64".
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Will you be at the OSTA State Shoot? I won't be able to make Denton Hill.
I hope you can make the OSTA State shoot. I'd really like to see that puppy.
Troy
Looks like a winner already !!!
Guys, Lowebow and I were up to see Bill about a month ago when he said "I'd like you guys to try something for me". We ran quit a few arrows through this new bow. Let me tell you, it is very, very nice. The bow was unfinished and didn't even have tip overlays on it yet and I was more than impressed. If you have ever shot a Morrison Shawnee with long bow limbs this bow was right there in that category. It is very stable and fast with a buttery smooth draw. Bill was worried about if it was quiet enough. Mike and I would have both hunted with it as is but Bill just wasn't happy with it and he now tells me after a few alterations it is absolutely dead quiet.
This bow is going to be a another Zipper winner.
TJ
I think I must be lost...lol
Please help me understand how a bow can be all 3,... a 1 piece, a two piece, and a 3 piece bow?
Thanks in advance!
God bless,Mudd
Mudd, as I understand it Bill made a form for a one piece model that he will be introducing sometime soon. He liked the lines of it so he reworked his 3 piece riser to fit the angle of these limbs creating this new 3 piece just for kicks and giggles to see how it shot and really liked it so he is now offering it.
Correct me if I am wrong Bill.
A Nice Longbow...
Bill will you have a lefthanded one ?
Taking it to the next level! Bill doesn't wait for it to happen, he makes it happen. As much as I love my Zipper recurves, I can't wait to try the one piece longbow when he has it ready. I hear the handle will be slightly more forward than the handle on the takedown. I hear the numbers on this prototype are impressive and it doesn't have ALL the goodies in it yet!
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I think I must be lost...lol
Please help me understand how a bow can be all 3,... a 1 piece, a two piece, and a 3 piece bow?
Thanks in advance!
God bless,Mudd
It's a unique process. Yep, this bow has got it all.
I'll give you a little hint. If you use red or green lock-tite on the limb bolts...it becomes a one piece. :biglaugh:
Your real close, Tom. This bow was designed to work out the angle and limb shape of our 1 piece longbow.It is alot easier for me to make changes to a 3 piece with detachable limbs than it is to build a completly new 1 piece form every time I want to make a change.Once I got the angles sorted out and limbs designed.I started putting some shape to the dummy riser I was using.Well,in the end I realy liked the 3 peice version.So I decided to offer it as well.I am planning to have the 1 piece for Kalamazoo.
For the 1 piece if you can imagine connecting the wedges of these limbs and then build your handle aroud that.That will atleast give you an idea of what it will look like.On the 1 piece,I am planning to offer both a traditional style longbow grip or a grip similar to the one on this 3 piece.You choose which grip suits you best.
Barry!!!! red or green lock-tite????
Now thats about the funniest think I've heard in a long time!!!!!
Troy
I'm not 100% sure if I will make it to the OSTA shoot or not.I will try.
We are leaving for Denton tuesday morning.I'm not sure if there will be time to get a lefty roughed out but I will try.
This is a completely new bow for us.These limbs can not be used on an SXT riser.
Bill
I think red locktite would go better with the bubinga in this riser. :bigsmyl:
I like it, Good job Bill!!
I always enjoy trying out Bill's new stuff. Can't wait to get to Denton Hill to shoot this one.
Bill
I tell you what guys Me and another tradganger (tnbuckskinner) shot it at the ibo worlds last weekend and no joke the first 3 arrows i had ever shot thru it and the first time i had ever shot a Zipper where all touching at 20 yards and for tnbuckskinner He also did the same thing he turned around and handed the bow back to Bill and said I better quit before I buy another bow :biglaugh: even Bill Himself could shoot it very good under pressure :laughing: And it was a 53@28 bow and with a 610gn arrow it shot it with authority I was very impressed I am just waitting on him to get me a 85# to try LOL.
Guys better get on the list now before he goes to denton or more guys get to shoot the bow cause his list is going to get loooong! after this new Proto
Keep up the good work Bill
Do you have any numbers as far as fps to post with the new design Bill?
I believe Bill does have some impressive numbers on the protoype! Can't wait to see how it all shakes out with the 1 and 2 piece.
I did not post the numbers because it was not exactly 9 grains per pound and I do not yet have a set of limbs with carbon in them to compare. However I have done some chrono and shooting machine testing.The numbers shake out like this.
52# drawn to 28" with 9.2 grains per pound,this is with cat wiskers and a brass nock set on the string and 3 4" feathers on the arrow.Ready to hunt.It was shooting 196 or 197 I can not remember which right now.This is with foam cores only.NO CARBON.I have it all wrote down somewhere but we are trying to get things sorted out and loaded up to head to Denton.After we get back I will do some more testing at 9 grains.I expect it to be over 200 with carbon @ 9 grains per pound.
Now the best part is this bow is absolutely quiet!!Nothing but the sound of the string in the air.
BIll
looks good, bill...might make it up saturday, will stop by and LOOK ONLY!
AAHHHHH, come on Lee you know you want to. :biglaugh:
I was able to shoot this bow at the IBO Worlds also. It was very sweet to shoot. It was quiet as a mouse, smoking fast and dead in the hand.I shot it on Friday and had to go back and shoot it some more on Saturday. It is a real pleasure to shoot. I can hardly wait to shoot it as a one piece!
Do yourself a favor and go by Bill's booth and try out his new bow!
Benjy
Looks good man :thumbsup:
Wish I could make it up there :)
I forgot to mention that I had the same experiance as featherhorn above, I shot very good groups also. I'm telling you you better go by and see Bill and shoot this bow!
Do those limbs fit the SXT riser?
No Felix. Look at the limb butt pads. They are more parallel to the string than the SXT. The hump in the limbs gets the string back to proper brace height.
This isn't a good news Tom,another bow to buy!
Wow! Love the lines on that one!
Wish I could make it to Denton to try it out, if TJ says it is a shooter...that is enough for me!
Well done Bill!
Nice job Bill. I'd be interested in seeing a 2 piece when you get some finished. What kind of takedown system are you thinking of using?
well, Bill...if I make it up...as long as I'm there......no harm shooting a couple arrows....yeah, right!
Lee
Well Bill looks like you have a lot ofdown time. I mean you're just working on a couple of
protos and traveling to nearly every show in the country. Why not work out a snappy 2 piece recurve while you are resting.
You're a sick man sir. My kind of people.
:biglaugh: Your right Brant, it is a sickness!This stuff wakes me up at night thinking about it.
I have not decided 100% on the take down system for the 2 piece.It will likely either be the fiberglass sleeve or bow bolt or who knows?I do have a couple of ideas of my own to try out.
I hope you can make it Lee.We are headed out early in the a.m.
Bill
OK, so who shot the prototype at Denton and what did you think?
I got a chance to take a couple of shots with it Friday afternoon. It's a smooth shooter for sure, just like all of Bills bows. I am not a longbow guy, but was still very impressed with the new bow.
I shot it at Denton, it shoots like a rocket. I don't shoot longbows but this one is a good one.
I continually pestered Bill and his lovely wife at the IBO Worlds and am sure that I tested their patience. I must have run six different bows over two days. They sure can push an arrow.
Found the bows pleasant and accurate.
Will there be RC limbs for this bow also?
2-piece, 56", 52#s at 26" DL, foam core with carbon, small grip (round the bottom a little more similar to a LB grip).
Is this possible ?????
We made it back from PA. last night.I already miss the cooler weather.
Will there be recurve limbs for this riser?I guess the best answer is maybe.I have already considered it,but it would requier a redesign of the recurve limbs.They are not designed for that steep of a riser angle.In other words you can not put any of our existing recurve limbs on this riser.
This bow will not be a 56"er it is not designed for it.58" would be the shortest I would ever go.Even then I would have to build one and do some testing.Changing the grip is not a problem
Bill