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Title: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: dave19113 on July 23, 2011, 09:50:00 AM
Ok.... I just went on KK to order spare Grizzly BH and see the post again saying out of stock and unsure if they will ever be made again.....


Whats the deal? Does anyone know? and if so who has RW 200elgrandes and 135 RW Grizzleys they want to sell
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: East Coast archer on July 23, 2011, 09:58:00 AM
Dave

I've been wondering the same thing.  At Sawmill Allegheny Mountain Arrow Woods had no Grizzlies and when I asked I really didn't get an answer and I know they are from the same town in PA, if not partners or the same owner.  Any sponsors or members have info?  

Oh by the way, I have 6 RW 200 grainers and I ain't selling 'em.  Just got them last year and they were easy to sharpen compared to the old grizzly.
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: SuperK on July 23, 2011, 10:08:00 PM
Have you checked out 3 Rivers?
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: dave19113 on July 23, 2011, 11:08:00 PM
3 rivers is out too..... I think they only have 130gr LW...... I might just be using the ACE 200gr.... I do still have quite a few of those and just save the El Grandes for bigger stuff....
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: SuperK on July 24, 2011, 12:03:00 AM
Check out the Tusker Concordes at Braveheart Archery.  They come in both 190 and 155 grains, and left and right bevel. (I think)
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Sharpster on July 24, 2011, 08:46:00 AM
This has been the case for quite a while now... I don't get it myself... You'd think a company with a loyal and growing customer base like Grizzly BHDs would either get product out to thier dealers or, if they don't want to make them anymore, then SELL THE COMPANY TO SOMEONE WHO WILL.  :confused:

Ron
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: JimB on July 24, 2011, 10:10:00 AM
My thinking exactly Ron.There has been some demand that hasn't been met.The changes made to the newer Grizzlys have been really positive.I wish someone would take over that would keep supplies up and I would be willing to pay more for a little better grind on the bevel.I don't mean hunting sharp.The same coarse grind would be fine if it were just continued to the edge.That would take a lot of the fight out the Grizzly.
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: cacciatore on July 24, 2011, 10:14:00 AM
You are damn right guys!
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Terry Green on July 24, 2011, 11:15:00 AM
There are a lot of options for the Grizzly..

Tusker Concord...Abowyer Brown Bear....Tuff Head.

Not sure about options for the El Grande width though.
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: dave19113 on July 24, 2011, 11:47:00 AM
The problem too is the pricing...The Grizzlys are blue collar price...... If I do lose 1 im not too heat broken.....
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: dave19113 on July 24, 2011, 11:50:00 AM
Scratch that last post....... Just saw pricing on tuskers..... pretty good..... has anyone used them?
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Coonbait on July 24, 2011, 12:41:00 PM
Man I'm glad I got my 190 El Grande's from Braveheart this winter. Is kind of puzzling why a company doesn't get their product out better though.
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: smoke1953 on July 24, 2011, 12:47:00 PM
My uneducated guess is that the company is just a couple of guys that are just scratching and clawing to keep their heads above water and this certainly a part time thing. It's tough out there and I hope for them the best.
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Ringneck on July 24, 2011, 01:56:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sharpster:
This has been the case for quite a while now... I don't get it myself... You'd think a company with a loyal and growing customer base like Grizzly BHDs would either get product out to thier dealers or, if they don't want to make them anymore, then SELL THE COMPANY TO SOMEONE WHO WILL.    :confused:  

Ron
My thoughts exactly...
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Ron LaClair on July 24, 2011, 02:05:00 PM
Ace Super Express is a good 200gr head
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: featherhorn on July 24, 2011, 03:11:00 PM
I will agree 100% with ya Ron I can get mine Scary sharp and they fly great
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Coonbait on July 24, 2011, 04:04:00 PM
Smoke I agree with you about them being a couple of guys doing part time work. But if you have a business that produces a product that your venders can and also need to sell, you must do everything in your ability to provide. The fact that you disappear for long streches of time with little or no communication with your customers AND venders is unacceptable. Either you don't care or this venture is just to big for you. It's a shame because there's lots of folks out there waiting for the product that will stop waiting and find something else. Then nobody will want to buy or take over abusiness that at one time could have made money. Just my thoughts anyway.
Glenn
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: dave19113 on July 24, 2011, 10:23:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
There are a lot of options for the Grizzly..

Tusker Concord...Abowyer Brown Bear....Tuff Head.

Not sure about options for the El Grande width though.
Just ordered the Concordes..... in 190gr.... We will see how it goes......
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Ringneck on July 24, 2011, 10:28:00 PM
And I ordered the 155 Concordes today as well.
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Zradix on July 24, 2011, 10:37:00 PM
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: SlowBowinMO on July 24, 2011, 11:41:00 PM
Zradix, there were some a few years ago that had a slight arc to the main blade, something to do with the heat treating, quenching or something along those lines, I forget the exact details and yes they do start as rolled steel.  I've not seen any with that issue in at least two years now, and of course we replaced all that were discovered.

We'll replace yours too if you'd like, even though you didn't buy them from us.      :D      

braveheartarchery@gmail.com

There's also been a number of improvements...bevels were added and then later greatly improved.  Two years ago a protective chemical coating began being applied which aids in corrosion resistance, it's much like gun bluing.  Hardness has been increased to about 50 rockwell too, so they take and hold an excellent edge.  Very good heads and a real bargain in todays market IMO.
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Zradix on July 24, 2011, 11:59:00 PM
COOL!

I'm glad to hear that the problem was fixed!
I might give them a try again sometime.

On your word I have deleted my previous post as I don't feel a need to bring up things that have been fixed.         :thumbsup:        

I really appreciate the offer for the heads.
As it ends up, I don't have them anymore.
Way to stand behind your products!
Thank you for letting me know I can put them on the options list!


**ADDED**
After writing this I clicked on your site to look at them again.

I see the glue on 155 & 190 concorde is available with right, left, or double bevel ALL with TANTO tips now!

When it's time, the left bevel 190 will be coming home!
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: Ringneck on July 25, 2011, 12:10:00 AM
:thumbsup:  Tim knows how to take care of business and his customers.
Title: Re: El Grande and Grizzly BH
Post by: dave19113 on July 25, 2011, 09:38:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Braveheart Archery:
Zradix, there were some a few years ago that had a slight arc to the main blade, something to do with the heat treating, quenching or something along those lines, I forget the exact details and yes they do start as rolled steel.  I've not seen any with that issue in at least two years now, and of course we replaced all that were discovered.

We'll replace yours too if you'd like, even though you didn't buy them from us.       :D      

braveheartarchery@gmail.com

There's also been a number of improvements...bevels were added and then later greatly improved.  Two years ago a protective chemical coating began being applied which aids in corrosion resistance, it's much like gun bluing.  Hardness has been increased to about 50 rockwell too, so they take and hold an excellent edge.  Very good heads and a real bargain in todays market IMO.
I have to say I am happy to see a company that goes the extra mile and pays attention to what customers are saying. I ordered the 190's and if they fly well Ill be ordering a bunch more. Either way though you have a lifelong customer locked in...


thanks Again

D