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Title: Crazy Question???
Post by: 3Feathers on July 15, 2011, 09:42:00 PM
Is a 650gr. carbon arrow with weight up front the
same as a 650gr. woodie with out weight up front??

example.   carbon with 260gr.bh equals 650 finished.

a 650gr. wood with 135gr.bh with heavy shaft
equals 650gr.  are the the same???
Title: Re: Crazy Question???
Post by: Killdeer on July 15, 2011, 09:46:00 PM
You left out the spine.

Carbons recover faster than wood.
Killdeer
Title: Re: Crazy Question???
Post by: 3Feathers on July 15, 2011, 09:49:00 PM
Sorry 60-65 spine.
Title: Re: Crazy Question???
Post by: Shedrock on July 15, 2011, 09:53:00 PM
Are you talking penetration wise?
Title: Re: Crazy Question???
Post by: 3Feathers on July 15, 2011, 09:58:00 PM
Just regular preformance I guess.Penetration also.
Title: Re: Crazy Question???
Post by: JimB on July 16, 2011, 12:21:00 PM
3Feathers,it is kind of an apples and oranges thing.Normally,carbons are skinnier than wood and that will make a difference in penetration.Carbons also oscillate less on impact and some say that helps penetration.I won't get into the FOC stuff because that sometimes starts a stir.

As far as other aspects of performance,well matched woods should shoot right with any arrow.When talking about hunting deer,most hunting weight bows with decent weight arrows of any kind will do well.

I'm shooting carbons right now but they will never have the warmth,character and feel of wood.
Title: Re: Crazy Question???
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on July 16, 2011, 12:40:00 PM
They are bot going to kill wha they hit.  They are not the same at all.  The only similarity is the weight.
Title: Re: Crazy Question???
Post by: T Lail on July 16, 2011, 01:33:00 PM
how did all the game that was taken until 2000 or so get harvested ?????  :dunno:
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Post by: Jake Diebolt on July 16, 2011, 01:37:00 PM
I think the old guys just glared at the deer, all determined-like, and they were so impressed the animals just fell over dead.
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Post by: Hermon on July 16, 2011, 01:55:00 PM
If you are familiar with the concept of sectional density the carbon would have an advantage.
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Post by: JamesKerr on July 16, 2011, 02:00:00 PM
The only difference that would be truly notable on penetration it the FOC
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Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 16, 2011, 09:30:00 PM
Not so on the penetration as far as FOC, carbons also penetrate better as they do not flex as much when they enter an animal which increase penetration as well. Look at slow-mo footage of a woodie shot into a target and watch it whip back and forth when it hits, a carbon does as well but stop much,much quicker. Shawn
Title: Re: Crazy Question???
Post by: Ari on July 16, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
What ever you can get to tune the best will perform the best.
Title: Re: Crazy Question???
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on July 16, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
650 grains, is 650 grains......but the others have already stated the differences with faster recovery of carbon so I won't rehash that discussion.

Me personally, I have used woodies, carbons, and aluminum arrow shafts. All will kill just fine, but I always keep coming back to carbons for the straightness factor and quicker recovery factor. The spine is also a more absolute or stable aspect of carbon for me. Woodies if tuned or sanded correctly for spine can be matched perfectly with each other as a set of hunting arrows, but carbon takes all that elbow work and meticulous crafting out of the equation.

Some guys really enjoy putting alot into crafting their own woodies and I applaud them for it, I've even done it myself but getting older now and don't have the time or energy to mess with it so that's why I went back to carbons.

My CX Predators with 190gr. up front fly like darts and pack one heck of a punch when they slam into my target, and I can't wait to get one into a whitetail.
I am going to experiment with river cane and my own 190gr. trade points, but that will be for a different bow set up all together. So I'm not totally turned off of natural arrow shafting by any means, I love river cane and everything about it.