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Title: woodsman elite
Post by: pamike on July 15, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
Is it normal for the vented ones to whistle in flight?  Sounds really loud to me.

Mike
Title: Re: woodsman elite
Post by: texbow2 on July 15, 2011, 06:00:00 PM
No, it is not normal. Usually if they spin true I don't get any whistling, But I've had a few that did whistle even when they were aligned right(maybe 1 out of 10)
Title: Re: woodsman elite
Post by: JamesKerr on July 15, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
With the woodsman elites the vented ones are known to whistle. However an animal cannot hear this as the whistle is only audible behind the arrow. Believe me I have had someone shoot an arrow at a target with a big backstop and I stood behind the backstop and could not hear the arrow at all.
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Post by: JimB on July 15, 2011, 08:32:00 PM
A lot of people have reported that they whistle.The non-vented ones don't.
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Post by: BRONZ on July 15, 2011, 08:35:00 PM
mine whistle.
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Post by: The Whittler on July 15, 2011, 11:05:00 PM
There is a very big difference between a humans hearing and an animals.
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Post by: FerretWYO on July 15, 2011, 11:12:00 PM
The Elites Whistle for a lot of people. It can be easily fixed with a rat tail file and just bumping off the sharp edges in the vents. fixed mine right up and it has worked for everyone I mentioned it too.
Title: Re: woodsman elite
Post by: bigbadjon on July 16, 2011, 01:05:00 AM
People complain about this all the time. It makes a noise but not a whistle. The real test is to stand down range and see how load an arrow really is, any arrow. They all make noise.
Title: Re: woodsman elite
Post by: Swamp Yankee on July 16, 2011, 10:34:00 AM
Woodsman and Snuffers all make noise for me.  One of the main reasons I changed to 160gr Woodsman Elites last year.  Added a little weight to my arrows and quieted them down.  I have no idea if it matters to the deer or not, but anything that makes the shot quieter is a good thing to me.
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Post by: Jake Diebolt on July 16, 2011, 01:01:00 PM
On a bow shooting 150 fps, an arrow reaches it's target at 20 yards in approximately 0.4 seconds. It takes 0.05 seconds for any sound from your bow to reach the deer (speed of sound being approx 1126 fps). That gives the deer 0.35 seconds to react to any sound your bow or arrow makes. Research indicates that reaction to sound stimulus is about 0.1 to 0.2 seconds in most animals - faster than visual stimulus.

So any deer can react in time to at least begin bunching it's muscles for the jump to almost any arrow - even one going very fast. The question becomes, is that sound enough to trigger its reflexes? Will the sound prompt a reaction? The only way to tell is by shooting the heads and observing the deer's responses.
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Post by: Earl Jeff on July 16, 2011, 10:01:00 PM
Yea they whistle. THE WHISTLE OF DEATH!  :p
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Post by: dink on July 17, 2011, 09:52:00 PM
all my snuffers do but never had a prob with the deer giving me any reason that they hear it unless all the dear around my place are deaf
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Post by: Roadkill on July 18, 2011, 12:44:00 AM
Scotch tape over vents. Will not affect anything.  But why?