I have always used SNOW SEAL to treat leather boots or leather anything really- is there anything better out there that you use?
My ol'man said you couldent beat bear fat for waterproofing!
TIM B
I have used Sno-Seal for years.....always worked for me!
Bear fat is a little harder to come by. Has to be rendered first, as well. I use snow seal.
Not sure if SS has silicone in it, but many boot companies do not recommend silicone for waterproofing. Go to your local hardware store and get leather waterproofing/conditioner with beeswax. If your spending alot of money on boots, be sure to read their care instructions.
Everything leather of mine gets Sno-Seal once a year or so. Can't beat it.
The Gang here turned me on to Montana Pitch Blend. Several sponsors here carry it. Love the stuff and use it on all my leather goods now.
SnoSeal :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
X2 Montana pitch blend, Use a heat gun or a hair dryer till the leather doesn't soak up any more.
The info on leather care is very limited and what is on the label may not always be the best way. There are so many types of leather and all may require a difrent applicaton. Boots with rubber rands such as Lowas Kenetreks that are glued to the leather are very touchy. To much oil or grease will cause delamination. Most of the high end boots are made with what is called naked leather a chrome tan with no oils or such in the leather. I have also found many of the greases to always colect dirt which becomes abrasive to the leather. Pitch blend is one that any friction brings that pine pitch to the surface and is miserable to get off kind of like pine sap on your hands. In the leather profession we have a lot of products that the general public does not get info on. what ever you use to oil or lubricate your leather with should be sealed after it sets for a day. I have to run to town but I will finish up this later.
I do beleave snow seal has silicone in it but not sure. Animal fats or animal biproducts (neatsfoot oil ground bone and hooves) are some times not the best choices. If the leather is stored say in a tack shed it will promote rodents to even eat the leather. Products with vegtable oils are usally better for leather. Pure olive oil is a exellent product to bring life back to any leather. It penetrates very quickly because of its vescosity and does not darken as much as other oils. I use it on my boots but it must be used lightly!!!! Kenetrek now has there own formula of dressing with vegtable oils and bees wax so to keep boots from delaminating. I have not found one product alone that will both preserve and seal at the same time well. No mater how I treat my leather I put a top coat sealer. I sell a product called Ray Holes Dry Boot. It is been around in the west for along time. It is a very good finish for hard use leather products. Its main ingrediants are bees wax and caranuba wax. It is a harder wax that needs some heat (microwave or boiling water) then apply and use a hair dryer or the warmth of your hands to help penetrate the leather. But once it cools and you buff the excess of it is the ultimate barrior against water and dirt. I can get a full hard hunting season with a good application. I will bump the Ray Holes product to the top in sponsor classifieds. I hope this info was of help.
Montana Pitch blend should be used only on full grain leather boots.
The cobbler in my town turned me on to a product by "Obenaufs". Its called leather oil (mixture of Beeswax, preserving oils and Propolis). They also make a Obenaufs Heavy Duty LP for extra wet conditions. Good stuff IMO.
Randy,
What are my Danner Pronghorns made out of ?
I know a fella who swears by Axle Grease ,, Course, I wouldn't use it {he he} .........
Randy is right.
To quote Cowlitz Logging Supply.
Obenauf's Heavy Duty Boot Grease LP
$8.40
"Obenauf's Heavy Duty Leather Preservative (LP) is the most durable protection available for leather on the face of the planet. Originally developed for the extraordinary conditions endured by wildland firefighters, LP protects, preserves, and restores furniture, boots, saddles, motorcycle leathers, fine apparel, tool pouches, gloves, baseball mitts, and more. It is especially useful for any leather that gets worked hard and is regularly exposed to severe elements. Three different natural oils are suspended in Beeswax and Propolis. In the leather these oils gradually seep out of the Beeswax/Propolis. If exposed to heat or flexing the oils are released faster so leather gets oiled instead of parched and cracked. This Beeswax/Propolis* Suspension Formula provides a time release lubrication to inner fibers while the surface is reinforced against scuffing, and the leather still breathes. The remarkable result is Obenauf's Heavy Duty LP that: Repels water better and longer. Repels acids, petroleum, salt, and chemicals. Restores dried leather to a soft and supple condition and protects it from further damage. Prevents dry rot and resists mildew. Resists premature cracking in flex areas. Works great on Gore-Tex® footwear. Is odorless after applied (very important for hunters) Restores sun-faded leather. Resists scuffing and dry rot. Applies easily with with a clean cloth. Penetrates deeply into leather. Can be buffed to shine or polished over. CONTAINS NO HARMFUL SILICONES, PETROLEUMS, SOLVENTS, OR NEATSFOOT. Is approved for Gore-Tex® footwear. *Propolis resists bacteria and mildew, and is a barrier against manure acid, salt, caustic chemicals, and petroleum. Combined with beeswax it repels water better and longer."
Available in most outdoor stores. Darn good..
Sno-seal is the best I've ever used on leather...it is made of beeswax...
You have to be carefull Obenaufs will delaminate boots with the rands glued to the leather. It also contains pig fat. That keep relaeasing aspect does work and every thing and any thing sticks to your boots. Like abrasive dirt and grit beleave me I used it a lot!! If it is used I would seal it.
I use a wax toilet bowl ring. Rub it on dry and hit it with a hair dryer to melt it and smooth it all over. You can stand in water with dry feet.
Boots get nixwak and snowseal depending upon the boot most all other leather gear gets montana pitchblend
Ive used snoseal and my boots were sealed up so much they would not breath and my feet sweat and got cold . Pitch blend was better.
I like snoseal. I don't believe it has silicone in it. Basically it's beeswax dissolve in mineral spirits. You can make your own if you like. But it's pretty cheap and ready to go. I use my heatgun to warm up the leather a bit after I rub it on. Works really well on all-leather boots.
You can also make your own silicone "waterproofer" by dissolving silicone sealant in mineral spirits until you get a consistency you can work with. Works great on boots with plastic integrated in the design but don't use it on your Goretex. It will seal seams on your boots as well as tents, tarps etc.
Here's there website: http://www.atsko.com/products/waterproofing/sno-seal.html
I've used Snoseal literally for 35 years. In the days before Gore-Tex, I would vigorously rub in 3 coats with a low-temp bake in the oven in between to soak the leather.
Now on my Gore-Tex boots I just apply a light coat rubbed in with the warmth of my hand to condition the leather only.
I've used snoseal on my beaners for years.2 or 3 coats useing my wifes hairdrier in between and they are good all year unless we start driveing deer in 8" of wet snow.
Snow Seal is great for boots. I do use Montana Pitch Blend more though.
Like others I use Snow Seal with 3 coats and hair dry them on every coat.It works fine for a couple of day in the rain when I hunt elk in the Rockies on my Russell.
I use Sno-Seal and Montana Pitch Blend. They both seem to work well. I use the Filson stuff too.
Obenauf's is the best. Hands down.
I used to use snow seal. Then I found Obenaufs and I've never gone back.
Just wear knee high rubbers, no waterproof needed ...
I found a product that works well for me called Bear Guard. It is made in Maine and is made from bees wax and bear fat. I used it last year and thought it did a much better job than sno seal which I've used for years.
Denny
Snow Seal and Montana Pitch Blend were my leather care products of choice, but I read Scott Teaschner's dissertation on leather care in the sponsors classifieds and bought the two products. Still in the jars at this point, but today is the day I planned to try it out. I like his comment that one good app. will last a season. He seems like a guy who knows whereof he speaks.
Obenauf's
The Kenetrek Boot Wax that Scott talked about is very good for rubber rand boots, as well as for other boots. I have used Snow Seal for many years too, but it definitely collects dirt and grime, as do various other products. I will probably be ordering some of the products Scott sells.
Allan