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Title: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: bryan r on July 08, 2011, 02:22:00 PM
Went to purchase my bear license today, only to find out that the DNR went on vacation. If this isn't cleared up by the 29th of this month, all lottery winners who haven't gotten their license yet will be SOL.

I am less than happy...

Anyone else effected by this?
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: RM81 on July 08, 2011, 03:01:00 PM
They also shut their website down last week due to a "budget impasse".

If there is no MN DNR, then do you need a tag to hunt?    :readit:   (just kidding of course)
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: SS Snuffer on July 08, 2011, 03:06:00 PM
Relatives coming and no fishing license for them!
Vote them all out of office 1st chance I get!!
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: SheltonCreeker on July 08, 2011, 03:10:00 PM
Bought my tag early and sounds like it was a good thing. Got it Via the net no problems but did it the first day they were avaliable. Sorry to here about your luck. What hunt area do you have Bryan?
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: arky714 on July 08, 2011, 03:15:00 PM
sounds like you don't need a license because there in no one to ask you for one...
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: RM81 on July 08, 2011, 03:28:00 PM
Everything I've read has stated that the CO's will still enforce the law.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: bryan r on July 08, 2011, 03:39:00 PM
Dave, I will be hunting Area 51, if I'm able to get the license. I'm hoping they will extend the deadline once they get rolling again.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Ranger44 on July 08, 2011, 04:14:00 PM
Sorry that you can't buy your license but there was plenty of warning that the State was going to shut down.  Don't blame anyone but the legislature.  They failed to get a budget agreed upon and almost all State employees got laid off.  COs are working and enforcing the laws when they are not providing security to State facilities.

I'm not sure one party should get more blame than another since they have both planted themselves firmly and refused to move.  Hopefully it will get done soon and people will get their jobs and lives back and people can buy licenses again along with all the other services.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: bryan r on July 08, 2011, 04:24:00 PM
Think I may have struck a nerve. Sorry Ranger.

Unfortunately this came as a surprise to me, as I am not an avid watcher of the news, or a reader of the paper.

I'm not placing blame on anyone, nor trying to start an argument. I'm just a man who wants to hunt, and I think that's something all of us here can agree on.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Gator1 on July 08, 2011, 04:41:00 PM
Can you say ABSURD... That's exactly how I feel about this.

Not only:

1. Resorts that rely on tourism, can't sell fishing liscenses. (Like SS Snufers guests). I've heard of cancellations of vacations.

2. 4th of July weekend: People had to pack up and be out of "all" state parks by 4:00 on that Thursday.  People plan travel and invest.

Saying this is ridiculous is an understatement.  

So much for the Fall Turkey Hunt, which is a lottery, I'm not sure if they'll get there "computers up and running again"...

I feel everyone's pain.   :knothead:
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: buzzcut on July 08, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
My friend who is employed by the MN DOT was instructed, when preparing sites to be closed during the shutdown, by his supervisors "make it (the shutdown) hurt" the public.  Great attitude.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Bob Abeln on July 08, 2011, 05:45:00 PM
Yeah, but lets build some more stadiums and not fix our roads. They seem to have heads you know where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: KevO on July 08, 2011, 07:56:00 PM
Stupid question?  If you can't buy a fishing license, would you be required to have one?  Who's going to enforce the law?
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on July 08, 2011, 09:56:00 PM
If I was kicked out of a campground I would be sending a bill to someone to pay once they figure it out.

Here I thought NY was the only stupid state   :knothead:
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Bonebuster on July 08, 2011, 10:06:00 PM
I was going to comment on what I thought about the people responsible for such a disruption of the lives of the taxpayers of Minnesota...but I won`t.

Instead, I`ll just say I hope bryan r gets his  bear tag in time and the people of Minnesota get replacements for their so called "legislature".
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: bryan r on July 08, 2011, 10:17:00 PM
Apparently it goes alot deeper than I initially thought... Did a bit more research and actually feel pretty bad about posting this... One guy pissin and moaning about a hunt, while there are families who are out a source of income.


Mods, do as you will with this one.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: rraming on July 08, 2011, 10:55:00 PM
Correction (DNR) Officers are still working. Unfortunate 22,000 have to suffer for politics. The reality of it is they had 6 months to figure it out and decided to wait and try to work on it the last minute (that's how I read it anyway). If I hunted like they work, I'd never see a deer.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Roadkill on July 09, 2011, 12:11:00 AM
I wrote "our" senators today telling them tobe leaders and be the first to offer real compromise proposals. I say "our" as I believe they are bought by bigentities. We are not really represented.  Matters not if there is a D or an R behind the title. Two cheeks of the same butt

Hope you get your tag.  Do not harsh out the COs mellow as he is a pawn in this game
Skipfron NV
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: mikebiz on July 09, 2011, 07:18:00 AM
Show me a State that's not totally f@#*ed. Here in NJ we have corruption, super high taxes, overpopulation and not many jobs.  Fortunately we still have lots of open space to explore.  Welcome to the America of 2011.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: jsweka on July 09, 2011, 07:52:00 AM
This sort of hardline stance by political parties is the biggest problem in America today.

Compromise
a : settlement of differences by arbitration or by consent reached by mutual concessions

b : something intermediate between or blending qualities of two different things

Seems pretty simple to me.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: smilinicon on July 09, 2011, 08:33:00 AM
The way things are going, we better get used to it...
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Hogcoots on July 09, 2011, 08:45:00 AM
I have little faith in any politician or political party.  They are all of the same ilk.  

I hope you get your license.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: pdk25 on July 09, 2011, 08:46:00 AM
This is a surprise? It's happening nationally as well. There will continue to be problems because we spend more than we have, and those with their hand out would rather run up the credit card bill or take more money out of someone else's pocket to pay rather than doing for themselves.

I do hope it gets resolved so your hunting isn't impacted.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: ksbowman on July 09, 2011, 09:00:00 AM
Hate it that you're having problems, But what pdk25 is right on the money. We as a nation cannot continue to spend more than we take in and higher taxes is not the answer. If it means some discomfort so be it. All the government handouts (especially to non citizens living here and other countries) is dragging us down the tubes. Hope your state gets it fixed soon.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Mojostick on July 09, 2011, 11:16:00 AM
Compromise isn't much an option when all the money is gone and states are billions in debt and the feds are 14 trillion in debt.
Compromise may have had an impact 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: mjh on July 09, 2011, 11:17:00 AM
So much for doing the peoples work, if you and I worked like they do we would be out on our rears, yea there is that problem with spending what yea earn, but who pays to put these people in office in the first place, lots of other problems politians will never be able to fix, for the out of work I feel for yea, for the CO's do the best yea can I'll do my part fishing and hunting with the law...
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Easykeeper on July 09, 2011, 12:07:00 PM
There's really no excuse for the shutdown.  The inability to compromise is not what is needed in political leadership.  Lots of tough situations with people being laid off, handicapped people loosing care givers, but the people doing the "negotiations" are just going on with their life.  

What really chaps my hide now that everything is shut down, is that they aren't even meeting and working on things.  No talks since Wednesday and nothing scheduled for the future.  They should be hunkered down in an office at least eight hours a day, every day, until it's fixed.  And they are still getting paid for the days past the deadline while state employees are out on their butt...   :banghead:

I feel bad for the people who can't get their fishing license, but I've got a feeling there are not going to be many tickets issued for fishing without a license during the shutdown.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Zradix on July 09, 2011, 01:56:00 PM
What a load..
So...these CO's that are out there enforcing the law get money from where??? your taxes
And they are paid to do what...watch you...
If you can't go hunting cause you can't get tags why are the CO's working...?
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: SheltonCreeker on July 09, 2011, 02:13:00 PM
Well good luck in area 51 if you get your tag and get to hunt. I didn't know any of this was going on I was just eager to get a bear tag so I got it the first day. Quite the thread you started here Bryan. I'm gonna leave my 2 cents out about the politics tho.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: bryan r on July 09, 2011, 02:20:00 PM
Haha, quite the thread indeed. I didn't think I would be opening a can of political worms when I posted it.

Keep waiting for the mods to shut er down.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: SheltonCreeker on July 09, 2011, 02:33:00 PM
Im gonna be hunting area 25 with BeaverTail Outfitters. Gonna be hunting around Effie MN. Any advice for an out of stater coming your way in the fall Bryan?
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Mint on July 09, 2011, 08:01:00 PM
Sorry to hear that but it seems like this is the way they get us taxpayers to pay even more money. Case in point, here on Long Island if a school budget doesn't pass the first thing they do is lock up the school so you can't use the ball parks etc and cancel all the sports and extra curricular activities. Forget about tryingto cut out any waste and believe me asa CPA i can tell you that every government agency probably wastes at least 20% of its budget.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Bjorn on July 09, 2011, 10:54:00 PM
It is comforting to know the waste is only 20%; my guess would have been upwards of 50! LOL
As long as they can keep us believing that one Party is better/different than the other Party we are divided and won't be storming the castle walls together any time soon.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Zradix on July 09, 2011, 11:38:00 PM
Well said

We have been divided and conquered.
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: iron_llama on July 20, 2011, 12:03:00 PM
Resurrecting a dead thread...

Gov. Dayton signed the budget today.  The DNR website is up at the moment, but I don't know how current the information is.  The news is saying that (currently unemployed) state employees will get a minimum 24 hours notice before going back to work- so the DNR should be open for business tomorrow (Thursday the 21st); however, repairing three weeks of imposed neglect will probably take at least a few days before things are back to 'business as usual'.

I didn't get drawn for a bear tag this year.  I'm wondering, will I still have an opportunity to purchase an unclaimed tag on 8/3, or will the unclaimed-tag sale be cancelled due to the shutdown?  Time will tell...
Title: Re: Minnesota DNR Shutdown.
Post by: Mint on July 20, 2011, 03:22:00 PM
Bjorn, I said AT LEAST 20%. I am with you, most likely much higher.