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Title: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: Zbearclaw on July 02, 2011, 05:17:00 PM
I am going to make a switch in arrows and want to ensure it is to a more solid product.  I am currently shooting CE Heritage 350's.  They are a good product for sure but I would like to shoot something else now, just time for a change.

In my wheelie days I shot ACC, axis, fmj, beman ics hunters, and quite a few others I am forgetting.  I believe the ACC was the most durable I tried but that is because I shot heavy poundage and never damaged one unless something crazy happened (shooting #80 compound for stump shooting can tear arrows up).

So, for those that have tried a few, what would you say is the most durable?

Thanks
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: Green on July 02, 2011, 05:21:00 PM
Beman MFX.....and just for good measure I foot them with 1.5" 2016 shaft.
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Post by: Easykeeper on July 02, 2011, 05:33:00 PM
I have always liked the ACCs you mentioned, even with my recurves.  Fabulous arrow shafts, they are tough but it is possible to bend them with a glancing miss...   :banghead:  

I've been shooting Arrow Dynamics "Hammer Head" traditionals lately.  These are all carbon and seem to be amazingly tough shafts.  They are tapered and it looks like the taper is achieved by increasing the wall thickness in the front of the arrow which also increases FOC.  I have yet to break or bend one.  Great arrow flight out of my 56# recurve.
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: Zbearclaw on July 02, 2011, 05:35:00 PM
What spine does the 2016 fit?

I will probably get a dozen of the stiffest and then weight up front to spine out for my bows.  Hopefully I can make the same arrow work for multiple bows.

Thanks!
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Post by: Bowspirit on July 02, 2011, 05:39:00 PM
Fits a 340 Beman MFX or a 300 Axis
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Post by: ishoot4thrills on July 02, 2011, 06:58:00 PM
Another vote for Beman MFX Classic. The last arrows I will ever buy.
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Post by: cacciatore on July 02, 2011, 07:06:00 PM
CFor my point of view the Eritage 350 is damn tough!
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: Zbearclaw on July 02, 2011, 07:16:00 PM
Ordered a dozen shafts from Big Jim to try, went with the MFX classic.

The CE heritage 350 is a tough arrow, but I have had a few break in situations I thought were questionable.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: Green on July 02, 2011, 09:27:00 PM
The 2016's fit my .500 spine MFX fine....David Bishop suggested I use JB Weld to secure 'em....worked great...they'll take a pounding and come out fine.
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: widow sax on July 02, 2011, 09:46:00 PM
Carbon Express is the most durable arrow I have ever seen hands down.   Widow
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Post by: Mainehunt on July 02, 2011, 10:06:00 PM
I've shot quite a few but nothing has been as tough as PSE Radial X-Weaves.

Kev
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Post by: BigJim on July 02, 2011, 10:59:00 PM
Both the CX and the beman are tough arrows and I like them both, but I don't believe the beman is nearly as tough as the CX.

Having said that, I can't shoot either of the heritage or classic myself since they don't make them stiff enough.
I am currently shooting the Gold Tip 7595's and the full metal jacket dangerous game. both are very nice and hard on game.
thanks, bigjim
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: longbowben on July 02, 2011, 11:19:00 PM
As long as you foot them their all bullet proof.I use gold tips with 1 1/8 footing work great for me.
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Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 02, 2011, 11:24:00 PM
CE Heritage are the toughest I have found, I foot them with 1.5"s of alumimnun and they survive the Muzzy shoot which is a killer on arrows! Shawn
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Post by: TxAg on July 02, 2011, 11:41:00 PM
Beman mfx gets my vote
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Post by: Cherokee Scout on July 03, 2011, 07:34:00 AM
I believe that the CX Heritage is the toughest shaft I have seen. Their spine is also very consistent.
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Post by: drewsbow on July 03, 2011, 07:59:00 AM
mfx for me
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Post by: Bill Carlsen on July 03, 2011, 08:10:00 AM
Ditto on the MFX.
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Post by: longbowray on July 03, 2011, 12:21:00 PM
I shoot the axis 400  and like them alot and foot them there hard to beat
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Post by: texbow2 on July 03, 2011, 12:38:00 PM
are the axis and mfx the same arrow?
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Post by: Rob W. on July 03, 2011, 12:38:00 PM
I've shot about everything in my compound days. Since switching over I've shot legacy's, trad only, and heritage 150. The heritage is by far the toughest imo. Just got some GT 55/75's from Jim. Going to put GT 100gr. inserts in. What do you guys recommend to foot them with?
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Post by: Running Buck on July 03, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
I like goldtips, price and durability. I foot my 55/75's with a 1 1/2" piece of 2216. When stump shooting they take a whuppin'.
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Post by: Rob W. on July 03, 2011, 01:03:00 PM
Thanks Running Buck. I will see if I have any old aluminums in that size.
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Post by: AKCrazyhorse on July 03, 2011, 02:11:00 PM
MFX v Axis.  Same diameter (well not exactly but very very close).  MFX is heavier GPI because it's got the wood grain or other camo coating.  Anyone know what aluminum will foot the axis 600?  1916's are a little sloppy on it.
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Post by: michigan bill on July 03, 2011, 03:36:00 PM
Looks like I'll be able to put this one to bed.
It says right here on the side of my Gold Tip XT Hunter: "THE TOUGHEST ARROW YOU'LL EVER SHOOT."
Now how can they say that if it isn't true?
Bill
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Post by: tackhammer on July 03, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
Beman MFX, only thing I shoot now.  :archer2:
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Post by: rick7 on July 03, 2011, 06:22:00 PM
i use gold tips and the only time they break is when i hit rocks  but the are pretty tough
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Post by: jimmerc on July 03, 2011, 06:45:00 PM
I shoot gold tip trads 55/75 and have them footed with a 1 inch 2216 alum. so far they hold up great! I had bought grizzly stik arrows a couple years ago and hated them, so i set them up as my all around stump ect arrow was acctually trying to totally destroy them, rocks instead of stumps ect and they are still going strong, had to glue the nocks in so as to keep from losing them, i even shot into a stainless steel drum with these and they held up to that!!!
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: pacopperhead on July 03, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
im no expert but love my beman mfx's
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Post by: lpcjon2 on July 03, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
Radial X weaves are the strongest I have ever shot.
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: jelepley on July 03, 2011, 09:48:00 PM
ht-1 vengeance  smaller diameter than axis,but thicker walls 11.6gpi and 85 grain stainless steel insert
              http://www.harvesttimearchery.com/carbon-arrows/
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: Gordon martiniuk on July 04, 2011, 01:30:00 AM
out of the pack I think Carbon Express are in my experence the most durable and tough arrow. the heritage is the best arrow shaft I have used ,, if you have to foot an arrow to make it tough means its a little week to start with
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Post by: amar911 on July 04, 2011, 01:58:00 AM
The most durable for me are the AD Hammerhead Trads with aluminum collars, brass inserts, unibushings and g-nocks. I have never broken one from shooting, but any arrow can break when sticking out the side of a big, live animal.

Allan
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: amar911 on July 04, 2011, 02:03:00 AM
The most durable for me are the AD Hammerhead Trads with aluminum collars, brass inserts, unibushings and g-nicks. I have never broken one from shooting, but any arrow can break when sticking out the side of a big, live animal.

Allan
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: Bowspirit on July 04, 2011, 12:51:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by jelepley:
ht-1 vengeance  smaller diameter than axis,but thicker walls 11.6gpi and 85 grain stainless steel insert
                http://www.harvesttimearchery.com/carbon-arrows/  
Wow, seems like the old Beman hunters without the outserts. I could see those becoming pretty popular in months to come...
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: ishoot4thrills on July 04, 2011, 07:09:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gordon martiniuk:
..............if you have to foot an arrow to make it tough means its a little week to start with
I foot my Beman MFX Classics..........nobody said I "have" to.

But, it don't mean they're weak just because I choose to add a couple of inches of 2020 aluminum shafting to the business end. I would do that to any carbon arrow regardless of what make it is. It's added insurance just in case I hit a rock or something.
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Post by: Arroyoguy on July 04, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
Gold Tips, price is right and they take a beating!
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Post by: huntmaster80 on July 04, 2011, 11:25:00 PM
I shoot G/T with an 1.5" footing and dont have any trouble
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: ozy clint on July 05, 2011, 04:18:00 PM
bow W-
2117 is a perfect fit for GT55/75's as a footing.
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: JamesKerr on July 05, 2011, 06:16:00 PM
cx heritage for me. I have only broken one; and that was when a deer fell over on it.
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: Bow man on July 06, 2011, 06:59:00 AM
CE hertage as been the toughest arrow I have used by far my favorite
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Post by: Shakes.602 on July 06, 2011, 07:27:00 AM
Well, I just have to Speak Up about this one,  THERE AINT ONE!!   :archer:    :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Most durable carbon arrow?
Post by: hunt it on July 06, 2011, 07:58:00 AM
Reason for wanting tough is.....??? If you want best buy in carbons going - buy Big Jim's GT Blems and who cares if you break a few at $43.00 a doz! Buy MFX,CX,ACC or axis and they may be tougher and better but you can have three doz blems for same price - there is no question that 3 doz GT blems will outlast 1 doz anything.