Thinking of purchasing a Safari Tuff Arrowmaster quiver. Anyone have experience w/ the quiver? Pro's/con's? Is it compatible with a day pack?
Thanks,
Mike
I bought one duing St. judes, i think it will work just fine. carried it stump shooting while I was running my bird dog. seems to be a good design and easy to use. We will see this fall.
If you do a search on this quiver you will find lots of info and opinions. I have owned one for approximately 2 years and i think its one of the best pieces of equipment i have ever bought.
They work very well with a pack of any size. Go to the website and you can see a video of Rod shooting with one on and how to use it.
Good luck.
I have used one for several years. I really like it for my practice sessions. For still hunting, I think I prefer a bow quiver, though I have been using the Arrowmaster since I got it. Just seems to get in the way, and hangs up on things and makes noise when it does. Might just be me not being careful. Of course, if you hunt from a tree stand or a blind, no problems. Nice to have the extra arrows along.
Got one late this spring, will hunt with this fall. I did find that roaming the range and at 3D's I'll no longer use it as I can't always see what arrow I'm pulling out. I might have a dozen arrows at the bottom that are the same but at the top they are fleched differently and I want specific arrows, kind of pain, so I went back to my basket quiver. I really to think it will be great for hunting though.
I too am thinking of purchasing one. The Duiker model.
None of the photos I've seen show why a rain cover is necessary. I am guessing the fletch end of the tube is open?
If any of you have one of these quivers, would you be willing to take a couple photos and show us what one looks likes from the end without the rain cover and with the rain cover?
Also, how quietly can you draw a second arrow out if you have to do it quickly?
great quiver
I've tried one on a few times and also a Rancho Safari Mini and I'm trying to decide which one to go with.
Anyone had both...which one did you like better? Granted they have different features.
Like the way it would cover the arrow fletch in the rain!
Thanks,
Josh
Best quiver I've ever used by far. The fletch end is open, hence the rain cover for those who hunt in rain/snow. With minimal practice a second arrow can be drawn quickly and quietly, without looking. Adjusting it to you properly goes a long way in how it fits, snagging, and noise. I've spent a ton on different types of quivers, the search is over for me.
Chad
How does the Arrowmaster keep the feathers from rubbing or laying on each other? I like the look and the idea, but it seems the feathers would be continually laying on each other.
Thanks,
Joe
The feathers laying on each other does not seem to affect them. There is room for them to jossle together without mashing down. If you must have them separated then this one's not for you.
You put them in dry and they stay dry so rain and snow aren't an issue with the feathers like a bow quiver or other side quivers I've seen.
What Chad said .
Iy is the best al;l round quiver I have found . Well thought out and very well made .
The fletch cover is that added insurance for me as it is insurance against the often damp conditions I hunt in .
Rik, the top is 'open ' but i have hunted in the wet without the fletch cover and it worked fine . For those heavy downpours , back pack hunts etc ... the fletch cover works a treat .
Quiet arrow removal ... and quick too ! Little hand/body movement as well , much like a Cat Quiver , only quicker .
All pro's ...
Cons ... it ain't my leather back quiver ... lol
A purchase you won't regret .
Here are a couple of posts I made with photos about the Arrowmaster.
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=078169#000001
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=077548#000004
The fleece lining in the top end will keep them quiet while drawing the second out.
Rik, I have a lefty if you ever want to try it out. It is the Arrowmaster and not the Duiker. Mostly been using my back quiver of late.
Ray
Forgot to mention that I glued in a piece of foam with three holes in it on one side to hold my blunts, that way they don't tangle with my broadheads and they are always in the same place when I need one quickly.
QuoteOriginally posted by jlnft:
How does the Arrowmaster keep the feathers from rubbing or laying on each other? I like the look and the idea, but it seems the feathers would be continually laying on each other.
Thanks,
Joe
Not really an issue....if you have it adjusted right, the quiver doesn't move much and they don't make any noise. That was what I found with the prototype Rod sent me...and he incorporated fleece on the upper part to cure the noise.
I use my arrowmaster for 3d and our club animal paper league. It works very well and it gives me a place to attach my Thermacell. The pocket is great also. I store the rain cap in there until needed. And I did need it for a couple of shoots this year already.
I may even forgo the bow quivers this year and use it exclusively during deer hunting season. It works great with a back pack too.
I have yet to find any down side to the arrow master. And Rod was great to deal with.
Glen
Of all of the side and back quivers I have it seems to be the best for me. Just got it in April and really like it have been doing alot of roaming with it and will start hog hunting with it next week. If I still like it after that I will clear it for deer season and finally be done with those dang bow quivers and always give me a fit.
I just got a used one off the classifieds. Fantastic design. Quick and very quiet. The one I bought was hunted with for two years on some pretty intense hunts. Looks brand new. I don't think you can miss with the Arrowmaster.
I've been using a Stealth Side Quiver and love it. I just got an Arrowmaster and love it so far. I like the extra size for more arrows. My stealth lays against my pack perfect and arrows are super handy. The Arrowmaster is just more of a good thing but not as good lookin as the leather Stealth :)
Do any of you attach your Arrowmaster directly to the side of your pack for elk and mule deer-type hunting?
Photos?
I love mine. I did notice some noise when I was pulling out an arrow once. The quiver was about six inches from my ear and I had an elk getting close. I slowly pulled out an arrow and I could hear the fletch rubbing under the hood. But the elk didn't hear it. I think it was because my ear was so close. It is my favorite quiver. I don't go out without it. Gary
I love the concept of it. I bought one over a year ago and I must not be adjusting mine right because I just can't seem to get comfortable when I wear it. Do you folks always attach the clip to your belt or belt loop or do you let it hang loose? Do you snug the strap up fairly tight or do you wear it loose?
Thanks
Ken,
I tried attaching the clip to my belt and it works better - sometimes. Most of the time I just let it hang loose. Also, play with the length of the strap. I found that I like it longer so the bottom of the quiver hangs down a bit - very little hand movement to get an arrow out.
Rik,
I put my quiver on right over my day pack. The quiver then hangs right alongside the pack - works great. I used it for two weeks in the mountains last year and it's still my favorite quiver.
Thanks for the comments - looks like I'll be trying one! W/o seeing one up close and persona, I am still unsure about carrying arrow w/ judo heads along side broadhead arrow - how to get a broadhead and/or judo when you want one w/o getting the other.
Rik, you need to purchase a quiver and work out the bugs (if there are bugs) for us.
Cheers,
Mike
I used the Arrowmaster for everything since Rod came out with the design.
This is an old picture of how I keep blunts separate by poking a wire through the sides of the quiver.
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I have used just about every kind of quiver there is and had decided my version of the Asbell was one of the best but it let the fletching get pretty beat up by the end of the season.
I used the Simmons quiver for a season or two but even with the covering, it sounded like a plastic milk jug going through the woods.
I won an Arrowmaster at out annual banquet and it is all I use now when hunting with a longbow.
It is quiet and protects the fletching.
The bottom opening is pretty big and I can look in there and pull out whichever arrow I want. I never take the rain cover off and I even "load" the quiver from the bottom and just space the arrows out and stick them in the foam.
It is a really good design in my opinion.
I like that style of quiver, especially for ground hunting and stalking. No experience with the Arrowmaster, but do have a Palmer Bow Mate Elite. It is more rigid and comes with the fletch end cover. Am well satisfied with it.
I use mine for hunting and 3D, hands down the most versatile quiver I own.
I bought the Duiker model , great quiver and love it .
The ArrowMaster is my fav on the range and for stump shootin'! I use it daily.
I ended up havin' to install a finished wood arrow shaft internally on the side of the quiver that lies against the body because mine began to collapse with a lot of use.
With the shaft support it is still going strong!
Shoot straight, Shinken
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I found a new twist was out roaming today and wanted to put out my trail camera,, well I use a 24" blade machite to clear trails and wondered if it would fit in my Arrowmaster Quiver well it fit real well with all the arrows I bring ,, The best quiver I have ever used !! :thumbsup:
I am going to give one a try.
i realized this weekend while writing a note to Rod at Safari Tuff that this year will be the 30th anniversary of my first bowhunt for elk. Wow, how time flies!
On that hunt 30 years ago, I killed a 6x6 bull at four yards. that hunt changed my life in so many great ways that i could not even list them.
Well, since this year is the 30th anniversary of that memorable, life-changin hunt, I have decided to do something special to make it even more special.
I am going to----for the first time in 30 years----try to kill a bull with a bare bow. Yep, you heard me right, I am going elk hunting sans bow quiver.
That is a big step for me, but it's also a good way to increase the enjoyment of my 30th year of elk hunting, and to make it something special.
I will share photos and ideas once my Arrowmaster arrives and I spend some quality time in the high country with it, stump shooting and testing it, and my ability to shoot without a quiver.
Rod thinks I may learn to shoot even better once I get used to shooting without a bow quiver. He mentioned something about side torque, and you know, he may be right.
Ah, the excitement of a new challenge. Good stuff!
P.S. This thread was started by Mike Schlegel, who knows more about elk and Idaho elk country than anyone I know. He is an Idaho Fish and Game Dept. wildlife biologist---the best of the best. Way, way back when I killed that first bull I mentioned above, his input was directly responsible for me and my dad being on that very mountain, deep in the heart of Idaho's best elk country. Thanks Mike, I owe you more than you know!
awesome stuff Rik...Rod is a great guy to deal with ... and his quiver, whilst not my old and trusty leather back quiver is without a doubt the best non bow quiver I have ever used. Look forward to pics of you and your 'barebow' in the field !
Way to take up the challenge Rik!
I know you can do it!
BTW - what longbow will you be holdin' when your ArrowMaster is hangin' by your side?
Keep the wind in your face!
Shoot straight, Shinken
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i LOVE my duiker!
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I received some excellent news yesterday----my new Arrowmaster quiver is on it's way to Horseshoe Bend.
Rumor has it I will be seeing the new design.
This is perfect timing, as I will be able to test it out while scouting out some new elk country for the next five weeks.
There is no test more fitting than that for hunting gear. Here is a photo of some of the new country I am checking out, taken a week and a half ago. Still too much snow to get all the way in, but it's finally starting to melt.
Man am I excited! Stay tuned. . .
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Thanks for the update Rik and *awesome* photo by the way!
OK - now you got to clean up yo mess since you done spilled the beans! WHAT IS THE RE-DESIGN OF THE ARROWMASTER?
I'll bet it's just perfect for that handsome BIG 5!
Inquiring minds would like to know....
Keep the wind in your face!
Shoot straight, Shinken
:archer2:
After hunting with a bow quiver for years i have changed to a Arrow Master. Have a shoulder injury in my bow arm.Wanted to get that quiver and arrows weight off my bow. Wasnt for sure what i would think of the Arrow Master but thought i would give it a try.Got mine two weeks ago and have been useing it every day,and love it.Best quiver i have ever used. Rod put alot of thought into this quiver and it is very user friendly. Something about Rod, he realy cares about his customers. He will always try to help you if there is a need. I shoot a very long arrow ,35.5" with a broadhead on.The standerd quiver feather cover fits arrows 33" or less.I talked to Rod and he sent a longer cover for my needs.I mailed him back the standered cover.If you havnt used a Arrow Master yet,try one. Your search for the only quiver you will ever need will be over.
Mike
Rik...we'll need photo's mate !
Have had mine around 3 years and would buy another if something happened to tje one I have. I do want a Hill style back quiver for squirrel and rabbit, stumpin and such.
The only con I've found for my Arrow Master so far is that leaf litter can get in the bottom. :biglaugh:
QuoteOriginally posted by Rik:
Do any of you attach your Arrowmaster directly to the side of your pack for elk and mule deer-type hunting?
Photos?
Not attached my Duiker model to my pack , but definately seems like an option I may try , although it may stick up a little to far and catch branches in the area I hunt Elk .
The Duiker is not as bulky as the original Arrowmaster , so mine fitted quite neatly at the side of my pack .
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I don't have the Arrowmaster but this is how I would rig my Duiker if necessary. :biglaugh:
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My new Arrowmaster quiver is here!
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As I removed it from the shipping box, my first impression was that it was much lighter than I had anticipated. The quality of construction is absolutely top notch. They really pay attention to detail!
Of course, the first thing I did even before loading the Arrowmaster up with arrows was slip in over my shoulders to see how it fit.
PERFECT! Absolutely perfect! The quiver lays upright and out of the way along my right side (I ordered a right-hand model).
The strap attaches at two points on the upper end of the quiver, and one point at the bottom, making it ride far better than I had hoped. It really stays put, and is in the perfect position, completely unobtrusive.
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Time for some testing. I seem to do a lot of belly crawling when hunting mule deer, so I slid the quiver around to my back, where it rode right along my spine, and I proceeded to belly crawl around. The quiver stayed in place perfectly.
Next, I crawled around on hands and knees. The quiver again stayed in place perfectly.
I then worked on attaching it to my Ebberlestock hunting pack, and that actually worked out okay. I rigged it so I could maneuver the quiver to ride sideways when I am fighting my way through alder thickets and so it would ride upright when just hiking regularly.
As I said, attaching it to the pack worked "okay," but nowhere near as nice as just slinging it over my shoulder the regular way and having it ride alonside the pack. As you can see from the pictures, the quiver lays perfectly against the side of the pack, completely out of the way and unobtrusive.
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The reason I had wanted to attach it to the pack was because when elk hunting I have binoculars and a large bugle tube strapped around my neck, and didn't want a third strap to contend with. However, as well as the quiver rides this way, I am not going to complain. I will get used to three straps.
When hunting anything other than elk, when I won't have a bugle strap to contend with, the Arrowmaster is going to be a real pleasure.
In the attached photos, the camera makes the quiver look bulky, but it is so light and rides upright so well that I cannot even tell it is there when I am wearing a pack. I will be able to slip through nasty brushy country with the greatest of ease. Plus, the Buck Suede material is soundless. Branches will not be making noise against the quiver as I move through brush.
I made one modification to the quiver. I added more foam in the hood for the broadheads to slip into. I did this to bring the top of the foam up even with the quiver opening, so there is no cuplike area for debris to collect in when I am hiking through heavy brush.
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In the photo above, you can see that I have six arrows in the quiver, with plenty of room for more arrows. I am going to place three arrows with Judo points in that open area you see to the left. For Australian hunts, I should be able to slip 10 broadhead arrows in easily, and have room for one Judo for practicing on termite mounds (they are too fun to pass up----literally the perfect target for stump shooting!)
There is one more modification I will make. I am going to sew some neutral-colored polar fleece to the strap where it goes across my chest, as the dark black strap will stand out in most of the country I am hunting in. I will send Rod at Arrowmaster a suggestion that he offer the quiver with two options for strap colors, black and military green or tan as is used on lots of backpacks.
The only downside I have found to the quiver is that I can hear the feathers rustle agains the the others as I draw arrows out. I had a feeling the only reason I was hearing it so loud was because it was so close to my ear, so I drafted my wife to stand out in the yard and draw arrows slowly out of the quiver while I stood 10 yards away. She could hear the feathers rustling against each other———but I couldn't.
That was all I needed to know. THIS ARROWMASTER IS GOING HUNTING WITH ME THIS FALL!
Kudos to Rod and the gang at Safari Tuff, they have designed an outstanding hunting quiver!
P.S. I have now ordered a Duiker model too. I think I may hunt elk with it, and use the larger Arrowmaster for deer and bear and moose hunting, and especially for Australian hunts where I need to carry lots of arrows.
I just used mine this weekend hunting on my friends lease it work great for me.
So can a guy get a 34-35" total length arrow in the quiver?
Thank you for the photos of the quiver Rik!
The one showed the modified strap system.
I think that I am going to have to get a Duiker with the new hookup to try it out.
Looking forward to the next scouting report....
Shoot straight, Shinken
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Rik , they are sweet aren't they .I am a back quiver kinda fella but have found myself using the Arrowmaster more and more . Its just so easy to use and comfy to carry .
Nice One !
Here is me in a quick video messing around with mine .
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QuoteSo can a guy get a 34-35" total length arrow in the quiver?
Yes--just be sure to order the "long" fletch cover. I shoot full length wood arrows and Woodsman broadheads, no problem.
Chad
Thanks Chad-That's my set-up exactly. Hap
Maybe I'm the odd man out, but I tried one & couldn't stand the thing. It flopped around to my side, wouldn't stay put on my back, I found it noisy & cumbersome. Every time I bent over it flopped around to my front & if I hooked the carabiner to my belt, it poked the quiver out over my shoulder. I also really struggled getting my arrows to fit (35" with broadhead) even wit the long fletch cover (Which always seemed to fall off)
I had really high hopes for th design, buti just didn't do it for me.
Went back to an EFA bow quiver on all my recurves& a GFA-stle shoulder quiver when I'm carrying my selfbow.
I really liked the one I tried from a friend. My only thought was I wished I could adjust the top attachment point a bit. Looks like on the newer models they have a means for that. I just bought off the classifieds, we'll see it it has that option or not. If not, modifications might be in order.
I looked thru the messages pertty quick, but did not see anyone specifically answer your question on the attachment to the pack.
On my elk hunt in Colorado two years ago I attached my Safari Tuff quiver directly to my backpack and it worked very well. It will go back to CO next time for sure!
Hunted this week with it, the loudest part of my gear as far as twigs scraping on it, I mean really, really loud. The only thing worse would have been if they sew some bells on it or something.
Want to sell it?
I'm going to take mine on my first Elk hunt in about 2 weeks......I'll let you know how it works.....
I've had mine for a year now and like it morer all the time. The only disadvantage is speed of a second shot. But then I've hunted with flintlocks for years and the arrowmaster is way faster than them, so I don't feel disadvantaged at all. alex
Alex,
I've put some thought to being able to make that quick second shot as fast and as quietly as possible. Here in Idaho, seems I get to slip in a second arrow fairly often.
I am going to try attaching a solo stalker arrow holder to the upper side of my Arrowmaster, and keeping one arrow in it.
The broadhead would be imbedded in the quiver hood as normal, but the shaft would be outside the body of the quiver, riding tight along the top side of the quiver.
I would not draw the arrow held by the Solo Stalker unless I needed a quick second shot or if I walked up on an animal by accident and needed a fast arrow for a close shot. If the weather socks in with rain and snow, I will slip the arrow inside the quiver (MAN, what a great thing that is!).
Here's why. This weekend while scouting for elk, I walked up on on a huge 7 x7 bull and several other bulls, one a dandy 6x6. Anyway, any sound at this point would have alerted them, and I think the Solo Stalker idea might have worked well. That is, it would have worked well if elk season were open, which doesn't happen for three more weeks. I and my gear will be ready!
As for the Arrowmaster being noisy, mine is covered with Bucksuede. I don't own anything, including wool clothes, that are any quieter than Bucksuede.
Wool? Deathly quiet. Bucksuede? Deathly quiet. Sometimes you just have to know how to slip in silently, it's not always the gear causing the noise. I can make noise in the quietest wool. I just choose not to.
Practice makes perfect man, practice makes perfect.
QuoteOriginally posted by Rik:
I am going to try attaching a solo stalker arrow holder to the upper side of my Arrowmaster, and keeping one arrow in it.
I like that idea. Will give it a try with and without the sheath.
Thanks.
Kurtbel5, pm sent.
The Arrowmaster I received in the mail from Safari Tuff was great, but it made me curious about the Duiker, as all hunts are not the same, and all hunts don't require the same amount of arrows.
So as I mentioned before. . . I ordered a Duiker. It arrived today.
It is smaller than the Arrowmaster, and thus does not hold as many arrows. It is smaller in diameter, and does not have the handy side-pocket.
The Duiker is perfect for some hunts, the Arrowmaster is even more perfect for other hunts. I think a well-traveled bowhunter will need both. If I had to choose one over the other, it would be the Arrowmaster. Not much difference in weight, and when it it slipped over your shoulder, you can't tell the difference between the two.
In the photos below, the Arrowmaster has six arrows tipped with big 160-grain three-blade snuffers and three arrows tipped with Judo points.
The Duiker has six arrows tipped with 160-grain two-blade Ribteks and two arrows tipped with blunts. Neither quiver is packed too tight. Lots of room between the broadheads.
Choices, Choices. . .
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. . . a little vaseline on the broadheads and they come out soooo quiet.
The arrowmaster or the Duiker this elk season Rik ?
I just ordered a Duiker, looked at the the ArrowMaster but felt, for me anyway, it was too bulky. Don't really need the accessory pocket since I wear a pack and don't carry more than 5 arrows normally.
Getting ready to pack for my trip out west. I realized I may want to take a collapsible hiking staff. I have bad knees and it may come in handy "IF" we have to pack out meat. Got looking and it seems it will fit right in my Arrowmaster behind my arrows. Now I don't have to strap it on or keep checking to see if it's there.
I had an arrowmaster. I though the design was great, but could never figure out how to get an arrow out quietly. The feathers would touch the side of the quiver, the hood, or another arrow when it was lifted up to extract it. Was I doing something wrong?
I find that the fletching style has a lot to do with the amount of noise made upon arrow removal. The arrows I have fletched with four shield feathers are pretty noisy. That said my arrows fletched with four low profile bananas are really quiet. Simply a matter of not having as much feather to drag along other arrows and the inside of the quiver.
Well guys, the time has come.
I've spent the entire summer scouting for a good place to hunt elk. I've found elk, big ones, but I've also found wolves. Everywhere.
Still, the time for scouting and worrying is over. This coming Saturday I will load up the llamas and pack my camp high and deep. There is no trail from the road to my campsite, but that just makes it more fun. My camp will be there until the end of September, or until I kill an elk. The season opens on the 30th.
My gear has been selected, my broadheads sharpened, and my legs strengthened. My pack is ready, my quiver is loaded, and some of you may scoff at my choice of knife, but the truth is, I can skin a mouse with a Bowie, but you can't split firewood on the side of the Rockies in a driving rain/snowstorm with a three-inch pinkie blade.
Choosing a knife was easy, choosing the bow was a tough one, but it came down to the fact that my Sunset Hill killed a lot of big game last year, and proved itself a true hunter, but my Big Five has not yet drawn blood. This year, 30 years after I killed my first 6x6 bull with an arrow, we will see if the Big Five knows how to hunt. Only time will tell.
The scouting and wondering and wandering is over, it's time to hunt.
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P.S. The Arrowmaster is loaded with scary-sharp 160-grain Snuffers on heavy ash shafts. I am just enough of a heathen to get a big grin on my face at what THAT wicked combination can do when shot from a 75-pound Big Five.
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Rik,
Good Luck on your hunt. I will always be grateful to you for publishing my little short story in the last issue of your magazine.
A big knife is a good knife.....good luck :thumbsup:
Best of luck Rik!
Be sure to have plenty of woof repellent! Hopefully, those llamas can take care themselves....
I hope the Big Five brings you lots of mountain grouse and a monster monarch!
Keep the wind in your face!
Shoot straight, Shinken
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Good luck Rick!
Well I gave the Arrowmaster a test drive in Colorado at 10,000 feet and here's what I think.....After a week of Elk hunting I can say that it does carry well,is easy to get an arrow out when needed and seemed to to do all it's said to do......Except one thing. It makes to much noise for me. Still hunting in timber was not easy with all the dead branches and I did not like it. My Cat Quiver is much more silent. :dunno: Just my 2 cents!!