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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: robtattoo on June 02, 2011, 08:49:00 PM
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I'm needing to build a dozen arrows. Nothing odd there, you may think. The problem is, I haven't had to mess with arrows for a while now. I know the formula for all my bows & I can knock out a dozen in about an hour.
I've just got a hold of a Dan Quillian Bamboo Longhunter. Awesome bow, seems to shoot nicely, but I need some proper spined, well weighted (read; HEAVY) arrows.
Oh, the bow is 82# at my 31" draw. The Beeman MFX 340s that shoot out of all my other bows (62-66#) & weight 700gn are just, simply, too damned light.
Can someone whip me up a recipe for a nice heavy arra for this monster? I don't care what it's made from wood, carbon or aluminium, it's all good with me!
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Going by Stu's chart a full length Easton FMJ Dangerous Game 250 with a 75gr insert and 125gr point should get you in the ballpark. Total arrow weight is 792 grains.Hope this helps.
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2219 alum. Rob! Stick some heavy points of your choice!
The Longhunter, is pretty close to center cut!
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Yep Rob 2219's. Just so happens their is some in the St. Judes auction.(forum 3&4) LOL
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82# and needing somethign heavy?? I'd sling these for sure!
http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/GrizzlyStik-Safari-Shafts-P6C5.aspx
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Rob,
I'm just working up some buff arrows for my trip with Andy and Mic. For 82# Shawnee dakota limbs. The FMJ Dangerous game shafts are looking/working good so far. I do have 6 - grizz safari shafts with 300gr up front cut 31" they are 1300gr total (3x50gr brass weights installed) - one big a$$ arrow - they fly great but I'm heading toward FMJ for my choice.
And yes we do have bass in the frozen north - we just have to ice fish for them! Actually I don't fish for rough fish such as bass/walleye/pike -I'm a died in the wool trout/salmon guy - everything else is for bow fishing far as I'm concerned.
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wow was that Dan's personal bow? He shot a heavy one if i recall correctly.
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If you want to use wood try the hex shafts. I was able to make up nearly 900gr arrows using their pine shafts.
http://www.whisperingwindarrows.com/
(PS:Got the shoulder working, I can shoot again!!!)
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FMJ Dangerous game shafts, heavy insert, heavy heads.
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How do you think 2317s would work out? I can go to 300gn points pretty easily, possibly more than that.
I'm looking to end up with something like an 850-900gn finished arrow.
Originally posted by Supercracker:
If you want to use wood try the hex shafts. I was able to make up nearly 900gr arrows using their pine shafts.
http://www.whisperingwindarrows.com/
(PS:Got the shoulder working, I can shoot again!!!)
Howdy Shane! :knothead:
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Wow. I shot them for a ling time and don't think I've really had a bad one.
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I think you can rule out wood with those specs Rob.
You would need shafts longer than 33" and 115# spine. Probably not going to happen.
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What about the super heavy AD Hammerheads?
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I'm really trying to stay at the 'pauper' end of the arrow pricing spectrum, if I can! :D
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premium surewood doug fir, full 32" long, 23/64", 110-115# spine, $36/dozen. bob @ surewood will have no problem finding these raw shafts weighing in at nearly (or over!) 600 grains each. load the front end up a LOT, these shafts can take it and are dead straight and baby butt smooth. for more front end weight, internally foot with an iron nail, 60-100 grains. slather on 3-4 coats of min-wax polyU to seal and you'll be good to hunt anything less than elephant (but might work on them, too! :D ). i can't talk highly enuf of surewood doug fir shafts! imho, they are the highest standard for all woodies, bar none.
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Another choice would be the Arrow Dynamic Super Heavy Traditional Hammerheads. I had some of the proto types, but don't recall the over all wt. I can check and get back to you if you are interested. They are spined heavier and the wt is heavier than the AD Trad Hammerheads.
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I have never tried it but I think some one has mentioned using a carbon arrow inside a alum arrow. Sounds like it would work and be on the less expensive side.
Gilbert
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Rob, when you get old and weak like me I'll be able to help you out.
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robtattoo, I'm just a little heavier then you, but not much..I shoot the CX 350's cut to 31" BOP, with a 100 brass insert, and a 260, and a 290 field point. Total arrow weight is 745-775..
I aso shoot 90-95# Surewood Doug Fir arrows, cut to 31" , witha 190 field point. Arrow weight of 778..
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Gilbert is right on the carb in Alum. I thought of this also. I have put vapor/ Blackhawk carbon in a 2117, but never checked the spine or weight.
Back in the day, Tink Nathan and others were putting wood shafts in alum, for african game.
I have some ole Acme Ramin from the early 90's that spine over 100, 11/32 dia! :goldtooth:
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Gold tip makes a .200 spine carbon shaft, 11.6 gpi
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I agree, with Rob. Surewood is a good shaft, and in 23/64" they are probably the best option. I think if you get them heavy, you may need to add weight up front, especially with a bow that is not center shot. I used 90-95# POC from Acme, in an 80 & 90 lb LB. at 28-3/4 BOP. and 160 gr. head. With 82# @ 31", they should allow you to add weight up to 190-200 gr. assuming you get 110-115# spine.
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Rob, you have PM.
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Surewood doug fir shafts for the poundage the length ?? i think a full length shaft is 32.
They had some 125 and 135 pound shafts at the Western States Rend. 2 weeks ago.