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Title: Carbon Express Heritage , What spine shafts?
Post by: Warren Cowen on June 01, 2011, 08:03:00 PM
I shoot a BW PCH 43 @ 28. What spine would I need for Carbon Express Heritage Arrow?  Warren...
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Post by: maineac on June 01, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
Still learning them myself. 150 max, 90 possible.
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Post by: Warren Cowen on June 01, 2011, 08:47:00 PM
Hey Michael, Thank You...
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Post by: Blackhawk on June 01, 2011, 08:52:00 PM
I like the 90 for that weight and reserve the 150's for bows around 50#.
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Post by: Crash on June 01, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
I would lean toward the 90 also.  I have a PCHX that is 46@28 and even at 29" and 200 grain tips, they are a little stiff.
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Post by: Cherokee Scout on June 01, 2011, 09:20:00 PM
The new Heritage 75 should be good.
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Post by: Cocklebur on June 01, 2011, 09:41:00 PM
I agree with Cherokee Scout, I think the
heritage 75 would work real well.
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Post by: BigJim on June 01, 2011, 09:46:00 PM
with out a doubt the 75's. The 150's will be way too stiff and the 90's will be borderline at best.

BigJim
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Post by: Ydanny on June 01, 2011, 09:48:00 PM
90's or 75's depending on how much point wieght you want to use and how long you cut them.
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Post by: Gator1 on June 01, 2011, 09:49:00 PM
Big Jim,

What is the GPI on the 75's and O.D.?

As far as nocks and inserts are they hard to find?

thank you
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Post by: BigJim on June 02, 2011, 06:46:00 AM
Gator, the 75's are 8.8g per inch and .288 OD. they are a .608spine which is ideal for bows around 45lb +- on down depending on draw length. We keep a full asortment of nocks and inserts for them (same size as 90's or predator II's). It would take a small schoolbus attached to the front of a 90 and a big schoolbus attached to the front of a 150 to get them to shoot as well as the 75 out of Warrens set up.
thanks, bigjim
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Post by: xtrema312 on June 02, 2011, 09:11:00 AM
I have had a few widows, but have a longer draw and shoot a little heavier bows.  My last one was a 48#@28 drawn to 29.5".  A 150 wouldn't have work. I was able to shoot 250's.  I would have guessed 90's based on my experience with that bow.  

I just tried some CX150's in my cut to center LB 53# @ 29 1/2" with a 30 1/2" arrow.  Even with an aluminum insert and 125 point they were too weak.  

Those test kits are well worth the cost to get so you can try a couple different shaft spines.
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Post by: Lee Robinson . on June 02, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
I am amazed how light a spine so many people shoot with these arrows.

My daughter can shoot both the 90's out of her 26# bow with a 24" draw...and she gets EXCELLENT arrow flight.

I myself shoot the 250's or 2117's out of a 57#@28" bow.

These bows are cut to center, but are not center shot.
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Post by: kat on June 02, 2011, 09:51:00 AM
With widows cut past center, I have found that they are fairly tolerant of spine. I shoot 53#s@29, and shoot .400 spine and 300 up front.
For a 43 pound widow, and heritage arrow, I would go with the 75 or 90.
A lot depends on how much you are going to load up the front end, and how long you are going to leave them.
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Post by: snag on June 02, 2011, 10:00:00 AM
Really depends on the point weight you're wanting to shoot. The 150's have an equivalent spine weight of about 65# and the 90's are 59#. So the 90's would work with less tip weight. The 150's you'd have to load up a bit. This is for your draw weight..not 53# or 57# bows...
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Post by: sawtoothscream on June 02, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
i shoot full length 90s out of my one bow thats about 43# at my dl.  5" left helical feathers and 250gr tips and both bare shafts and fletched fly good.    thought about 75 for my set up but couldnt figure out how to get a decent wieght arrow out of those spines and my 600spine gt arrows fly bad from it
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Post by: snag on June 02, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
If you wanted to shoot 125gr heads go with the 90's. If you want to go with 150gr+ go with the 150's.
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Post by: snag on June 02, 2011, 01:32:00 PM
Sawtooth is the bow you shoot the 90's with 250gr tips a recurve or LB? How is the shelf cut?
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Post by: Warren Cowen on June 02, 2011, 04:31:00 PM
Thanks for the Info. I shoot 175 to 200gr up front and my arrows are 29" So the 75's will work? Thanks Warren
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Post by: sawtoothscream on June 02, 2011, 05:10:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by snag:
Sawtooth is the bow you shoot the 90's with 250gr tips a recurve or LB? How is the shelf cut?
hybrid longbow and i cant remember exactly how the shelf is cut
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Post by: snag on June 02, 2011, 09:34:00 PM
If the LB is cut +1/8 and shooting the 90's you should get good arrow flight with 175gr tips and cut to 29"-29.5". The 150's with 200gr tips and cut to the same length would work also.