I just read an article in a hunting mag. that says on rare occasions whitetails can grow canine teeth anyone in trad land ever see this?
And if so,are the teeth ivory,like elk?
Just when ya think you've seen it all,huh?
I saw a youtube video of a small buck eating an injured, but very alive, bird. Munched it down like nothing.
If they start going carnivore on us look out! :scared:
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Its not unheard of. This is my brother's Minnesota buck.
That's pretty cool!
yep, seen it alot. Not only whitetails,but mule deer too.
Mike;
You say you've seen a lot?Not disputing you,who would know better than a taxidermist,but this article said it was a very rare occurence.About how many have you seen?
I got told a few years back by our area wildlife biologist that one of the biggest threats to quail nests in our area was not the racoon, skunk or coyote but the whitetail deer. Egg sucking deer, who would have thought that?
There is a species of deer(Chinese Water Deer) native to China and Korea that has very prominant canine teeth, they stick out of the jaw and down the side of its face, looks like a vampire,lol. Strange looking critter. Never seen it in whitetail though.
Maybe its a MT thing but I've seen a bunch of deer with those teeth, and shot a few too
Fin
I'm also a taxidermist and in my 23yr.s of working on deer I've seen it probably a dozen times if I had to guess.
Never killed one myself though...
Danny, they call it a "Musk Deer". They look like sabertooth deer and you can see pictures if you do a google search.
Is it something of a Genetic thow back?
Yeah Mint, but the Musk deer is smaller than the Chinese Water Deer and the Musk is not a cervid while the water deer is.
You see it with some regularity on caribou.
QuoteThere is a species of deer(Chinese Water Deer) native to China and Korea that has very prominant canine teeth, they stick out of the jaw and down the side of its face, looks like a vampire,lol. Strange looking critter. Never seen it in whitetail though.
Had to go look one up, check it out fellas :scared:
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That would definitely freak me out if not prepared for it lol :)
lol JW that is a freak, I have two European mounts that all have visible canine teeth, but they are very small, like pencil tip sized, both are mature bucks.
I see about 5-6 a year. ,most are mule deer.When I had my shop in NY in the 80's(I've been full time since 1983), I didn't see but a couple, so maybe we do have more in MT. I'm not surprised when I see one anymore.
I was just having this discussion with my sister in law about three weeks ago. I've been hunting for about 25 years and didn't know canine teeth were possible in deer. I guess you learn something knew everyday!LOL I also have a friend that has beetles for cleaning euro mounts and he says he has been seeing canine teeth more frequently in the past few years.
Check out Deer of the World by V. Geist! Lots of variation in deer. And of course you all know who Valerius Geist is?? At least I hope so.
I talked with a Taxidermist in WI and he's only seen it a couple times.
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Now thats scary,looks like a pitbul on steroids. :scared:
They remind me of wolf teeth like you see in stud horses
Just an FYI:
To get that picture I did a screen grab from a video of a guy processing that deer. It's the real deal. No Photo Chop.
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LOL!
JW that is one odd looking deer. Would make you think twice about napping on the ground while hunting. Roy
It's a genetic throwback. Musk deer, Water deer, muntjac and a couple others have visible canines. Quite a few others have rounded canines - all the elk relatives will have them, as well as a large # of the old world deer. Less common on the new world deer as they are generally 'newer' species.
I shot one in IL last year, looks just like the one in the picture. I didn't realize it until after I had boiled the skull . One of the fangs had dropped out during boiling and dumped the water prior to seeing the fang on the other side.
My Grandson shot a mature buck this past year. While cleaning an boiling the head, I found out he had the canine teeth (small). No ways as large as some of these older bucks! LOL
I have had so called experience guys say they had killed a old buck because he had lost his front top teeth... :scared: :dunno:
Salty. looks like those deer been breeding with foxes out there. Vestigal canines are one thing, a whole mouth full of top teeth seems a big jump.
ChuckC