There's a reason that turkeys roost in trees...at night when they sleep with their heads tucked under their wing, if they were on the ground they'd be vulnerable to night roaming predators.
A week or so ago my wife and I had a blind set up in the pines where turkeys had been traveling between their roosting and feeding areas. A little hen turkey decided to make her nest about 30 yd's from the blind and laid 9 eggs. I took the blind out so as not to disturb her.
This last weekend I slipped in to see how she was doing. Something had got her on the nest and ate her and her eggs. It had to have been at night when she slept with her head under her wing, probably a coyote, fox or maybe even a coon. It really upset me. That's 10 turkeys that will not be in the area next year. I know that predators have to eat too but there's plenty of mice and groundhogs around... :mad: :mad:
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The bobcats are pretty keen on them around here. And they don't mind going up in the tree to get them either!
Coyotes really do a number on turkeys, and raccoons are major predators of turkey nests, too. I've called in coyotes with my turkey call several times. One even ripped the head off my decoy, hitting it at full speed right in front of me.
I missed.
I too have called up coyotes...but I never thought of bobcats getting them out of trees!
Last fall I watched as a coyote went after 3 full grown turkeys that were feeding in a clearing. He snuck in as close as he could and just busted right after them. He came away empty handed - that time.
I think it's time for me to start coyote hunting.
QuoteI think it's time for me to start coyote hunting.
I was thinking the same thing.. :archer:
Ron, That's too bad bud, even though I like to hunt turks, I hate to see mama and a whole batch gone at once!
Saw the same thing last year,hen had a nest in a blackberry thicket,14 egg's.I checked the nest a week later,same picture as your's,nature isn't always kind.
As far as four legged predators go, bobcats and cougars are very skilled. I have watched hawks and owls take large birds. Try your owl call and see if you get any response in the area. Obviously, any critter that has tasted turkey will pass on field mice, especially during nesting season.
Yeah, but don't forget the loss from us humans! The farmer just cut the alfalfa for the second time this spring, here. Another nesting area.
The rabbits take a beaten, too!
Sorry to see the hen and her chicks didn't make it. I had about 50 birds last year, hail took out 19 that i found in the lower pasture this spring. Did not see any this spring, all on the other side of the river. No hunting property, of course.
Sad ending.Hopefully other hens and poults will fair much better.
Yep I have been watching a nice hen by my house, the other day i took a walk and found a pile of hen feathers. I suspect a coyote.
Don't forget black bears as well. Not as common but they do go after them as I found out Tuesday.
too bad. but not to fret, ron. how many times has that same predator kill scenario been played out over the millenniums, and yet turks still abound most everywhere.
Agree with the above post. It has been happening forever.
well talk over your concerns with the predators and let them know only to eat the animals you want them to. or get some predator calls and have some fun. although you would have much better results doing that with a gun or trapping them. yote numbers in my area are getting crazy
It seems that predators are on the rise everywhere. New Mexico tried really hard to establish ringnecks here. It didn't take them long to learn that they must roost 365 days a year in tall cottonwoods. They even attempted nesting there.
that helped with the foxes, and coyotes, but not the bobcats. Consequently I don't think we have left a single wild pheasant here.
Larry
Predators need kept under control too. Namely yotes!
This is why I have no problem with shooting possums. They are aweful on turkey's nests and imagine they get a few on the roost.
Possums have been known to eat chickens butt first while the chickens are still alive. :eek:
We need more folks like the Beverly Hillbillys who think possum gizzards are a delicacy... :biglaugh:
I think the current low price of fur has kept trapping and predator hunting down. You can blame that on the Bunny Huggers who don't have a clue.. :dunno:
AMEN to that Mr. Ron.... You pegged it
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Ron, That's too bad bud, even though I like to hunt turks, I hate to see mama and a whole batch gone at once!
Yotes make a nice hat.
Every notice that birds that nest on the ground, will nest two or three times if the first hatch is doomed by the weather or predators.
The WDF&G estimated that because of the heavy snow, cold and wet weather, they lost 40% of the turkey pop. in NE Washington. Not sure how they came to that conclusion, because they don't count them.
They will renest if broken up before they start incubating, not likely after that.
It's always tempting to look for a nest whenever we flush a turkey hen while turkey hunting. It will nearly always lead predators to follow our scent and find the nest.
Turkeys incubate for 28 days. During the first two weeks, if you disturb her on the nest she will likely abandon the nest. During the last two weeks they are more likely to stick with it.
We really do have a good reason to start shootin those coyotes!!
QuoteWe really do have a good reason to start shootin those coyotes!!
This one didn't get passed.
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Mass finally smartened up and opens the coyote season right with deer season now,,,,, after all these years of having coyotes run in when you blew a fawn bleat,, now they run in and usually don't run out or run too far.... I have no problem breaking silence to shoot a coyote at first light when it comes in on a fawn in distress.
Ron nice pic above,, you truly live with the spirit.
don't forget about the greathorned owl who also kills turkeys at night on the roost.
Good thing they don't know how to fry 'em, or they'd kill lots more!