anybody got any 200gr(no specific brands) blood trail pics? i shoot a 51 lb BW tipped with a 200 gr head now..havent really had trouble with my current one but im curious and have been doin some research on some new ones but i'm undecided , just wondering what kind y"all shoot.i'm not going to name what head i shoot cause i wanna see all kinds thanks
i shoot the grizzlys 160grn elgrande with a long adpater in them an it puts them at 203 and they work great have awsome penatration i also use the magnus stingers but they are 150grns and have great results in them also sorry i dont have any pics of blood trails but usaly they arnt very long
Here is a pic of a Muzzy 200 grain Phantom(220 without bleeders).
You can watch the video below and see some of the trail it leaves if they are sharpened up good.
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/ad2877/020.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/ad2877/videos/th_Nov92010doe.jpg) (http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/ad2877/videos/?action=view¤t=Nov92010doe.mp4)
Who's going to argue with a 160 gr Snuffer and a 35 gr adaptor, plus a little extra glue. That's an 1 1/2 three blade pouring blood.
Bowmania
No blood trail pics but I like my 200 grain Muzzy Phantoms.
I'm with Bowmania. 160 snuffer with a 42gr. adapter equals short/easy blood trails on whitetails.
I shoot a 190 abowyer and love them
glue on woodsmans with adapter equals 200grns of graphic bloodtrail making broadhead.
sticks, what is the 190 Abowyer that u shoot called? single bevel? thanks
I'm another 200gr muzzy phanton lover. It is a big two blade that really keeps a sharp edge and I love the pass throughs I have been getting with them. I use the KME sharpener to keep them razor sharp.
I've never had to blood trail something hit with my 200gr VPA terminators (screw in).
I now shoot 175grs but the end result is the same.
I shoot 200 grains up frnot. I have not killed anything yet but everyone cmoments how hard they hit.
Martin
Steelforce makes a 2 blade Phathead at 190grs, but you can get it with bleeders and it comes in right about 200grs.
200gr Grizzly
Kind of blury, doesn't show up well in this picture.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/tlclum/Hunting/P9070080.jpg)
Trees like this along the whole trail.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/tlclum/Hunting/P9070083.jpg)
Two holes helps a lot. This is the exit side. The elk was perfectly broadside at the shot. Upon impact the arrow deflected towards the back leg.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/tlclum/Hunting/P9070085.jpg)
No blood trail pics but this is the far side of an elk shot with a 3 blade VPA 200gr. The far rib was hit square, and demolished.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cu1v20sVsZM/TJFSN_11OZI/AAAAAAAALkU/8yzGcKmDkAs/s640/PA070283.JPG)
Yes, 200gr hits hard.
I shoot a 160 gr. STOS with a 42 grain adapter. Havent drew blood yet.
200gr head combos are just a tad too much for my setup. I'd have to cut my shafts too short for my likings to get them to fly right. 175gr combos shoot like darts, so I'm happy. Trust me, if I can ever get them to work I'll be using them.
MUZZY PHANTOM 200 GRAINS FOR ME. I AM GETTING GOOD BLOOD TRAILS AND HAVE HAD ALL PASS THROUGHS ON LARGE IOWA BUCKS THE LAST SEVRAL YEARS. I AM shooting a morriosn ILF 44LBS at 26" and using goldtip 33/55
ive never seen blood trails like the pictures people are posting from a 2-blade broadhead, those are incredible! :eek:
Nice pics and thanks for sharing.I have been shooting 165 grain interceptors with glue in adapters .brings them to about 200gr.Can't wait to draw blood with them.
QuoteOriginally posted by bayhunter:
ive never seen blood trails like the pictures people are posting from a 2-blade broadhead, those are incredible! :eek:
I good heart shot with a scary sharp 2 blade drains em out quick. :bigsmyl: That was one of my favorite blood trails. :cool:
Yep, the 160 grain Snuffer with a long aluminum adaptor, or even the 125 grain Snuffer with a 75 grain adaptor. Both work extremely well! Thicker skinned critters, I like the Wensel Woodsman with a 75 grain adaptor.
I've used a lot of different broadheads in my 56 years of bow hunting, 2, 3 and 4 blade, but I keep coming back to the big 2 blade heads. For the last several years I've been using the Ace Super Express 200 gr. It's strong, fly's well and sharpens easily, what more could you ask of a head?
(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/008%20Ace%20head.JPG)
... and we all know that how much blood left on the trail and how long the trail is depends a lot on where the heck the arrow hit too!
I use the steelforce phathead right bevel 225 grain bh and haven't needed to trail the turkey or black bear I got with them. Both went down within eyesight of shot. Will be trying the new 200 grain werewolf from eclipse this year. Just ordered some.
Here is a Werewolf kill from last year, prototype head, not the best shot placement, but an awesome bloodtrail. Not that I had to trail it, he dropped in 40 yards.
(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac270/BlakeOwenFischer/BuckSmack004-1.jpg)
FYI-He jumped the string, they do that at 10 yards when they are looking at you.
125gr Zwickey Eskimo with a 75gr glue on steel adapter, works for me.
Here's a trail from my bear last year shot with a Razorcap 3 blade.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/Beartrail3.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/Beartrail2.jpg)
Not too hijack this thread at all, but how slow are you guys' arrows going with 200gr up front? not that its that important, i believe silence is much more attractive but what i mean is does your arrows nose dive after about 20-25 yards?
I shoot 225 up front and it makes my 500s weigh 505 and out of a 51# at my draw recurve they are smoking fast with 21% FOC and are flat shooting way out there. I can group very well at 30 but unless its a hog with its nose in the mud I ain't loosing an arrow at a large animal past 20, pushed that limit on a semi alert deer and she changed ends and ducked by the time the arrow got to her.
"does your arrows nose dive after about 20-25 yards?"
My 2 cents is weight is weight. 200 grains up front effects trajectory NO different than an equal amount (amount between the two heads compared) added to the total shaft.
Also depends on what you call "nose diving". I shoot very heavy total arrow weights for my bows and yep, past 25 there is a pretty pronounced drop but it isnt the head weight alone that causes that.
That said, the number of shots I have had, for four decades, over 20 yards I could count on one hand.
200 grain heads are definately not on most 3D arrows, nor meant to be, IMHO.
Some like myself, like a heavier arrow and maybe even measure the FOC for hunting arrows but for whitetail........all is good. Never found a combo that wouldnt work placed right.
For those thinking a heavy HEAD causes nose diving, they need only to shoot two arrows close in weight with one being more head weight and the other being more shaft weight.
I used to have some VERY light carbons (like 5.7 gpi) with 350-375 grains of total head weight.
They flew just like any other arrow I had of the same total mass, trajectory wise anyway.
Heavy arrows do hit hard. Do we ALL need it? Probably not. As I said, Ive seen about every combo in imagination take out a whitetail and no experience with elk personally.
I just like heavy arrows and big heavy heads.
I can see em fly. They make for a VERY quiet bow without much help at all and when they hit........they keep moving, regardless of what I hit on a deer and cant imagine any other result on any other big game, in the US anyway. There isnt a bone on a deer I havent shot cleanly though, repeatedly in some cases.
Again, my shots ARE close, and believe most deer hunters (and have seen polls about such) also have mostly taken shots under 20 yards as a "norm". I HAVE however, taken deer out to 43 yards with heavy arrows, so I am not saying they wont "work" otherwise.
Just takes a bit more practice out "there" regardless of arrow weight, IMHO. Having always shot barebow, I have never worried about "trajectory". Simply using the same weight arrows .......ALL the time....."builds in" some kind of automatic system that I cannot explain and repeated shots at various (UNKNOWN) distances just fine tunes my ability to put r there when its time to do so.
Using sights, and having to prejudge distance is the only place Ive ever gave credit to a "flatter trajectory" being any kind of advantage simply BECAUSE the ability to judge distances creates (an additional) human error to over come.
Some here will understand, some will argue the point but I wont, sorry. When I "eyeball" a shot, I know ONLY that it is IN range.......or NOT purely confidence wise.
Ask any basketball player who just got "nothing but net" on a long shot how far he thought that shot was ***before*** shooting. :dunno: Same principal applies.
IF I attempted to prejudge distance first? I PROMISE you......I would miss, light, medium OR heavy arrows included.
God Bless
200 grain VPA terminator I shoot the 175 and have never seen better bloodtrails.
Well said SlowBowke