I'm just curious to see what wall thickness aluminum arrow shooters here on TG choose. Since I shoot a 2212 arrow, my wall thickness is (.012). I have a feeling I'll be the only one shooting a .012 wall thickness aluminum arrow. BTW; I know all about the durability issue, but I go roving where I shoot at pine cones and large leaves instead of stump shooting.
Love those 1918's hard to find but they sure hold up to my lousy shooting.
Kind of hard for me to answer this one as I shoot both recurves and longbows in the 60# to 70# range. Depending on the bow I shoot and what broadhead I want to use 2018s,2020s,2117s,2216s and2219s. I also have several dozen of each in 1918,2016 and 2016 for when I get a lighter bow in trade. I guess the real answer is .016 and above. Wish they'd come out with 2220s or 2022s.
For me it is 2214 for my 40# and 2217 for my 55#. Both are 28.5" long so I get stiffness from the short arrow.
For my poundage the 2219 is just perfect,but like hvyhitter a heavy thick walled shaft would have been welcome.
I'm with you thick-skinned guys. 2219s were great for me when I was shooting enough bow for them. Now, I like 1920s, 2020s, 2018,and 2016, depending on what flies right from a particular bow. IMO, the 1920 was the ideal shaft, thick walls and small diameter. It was not particularly versatile spine-wise, but if you could use it, a great arrow.
1920s? ...Did they make such a shaft? ...Thanx
At one time 1920's were around I am always looking and can not locate? :dunno: :dunno:
Like 1918s and AO shafts, all dropped by easton about 20 yrs ago or longer.
2018 & 2020 cover most of my needs.
Eric
I have 6 1918s that I have owned for over 25 years, and I've only bent one. They're due for refletching, and I've actually worn the anodizing off of the fron third of the shafts, but I look forward to shooting them for many years to come. When it comes to aluminum I am definitely in the thick-wall camp.
I've been shooting aluminum arrows out of my recurves for 47 years. I think aluminum arrows are so easy to tune. But, it really ticked me off when Easton discontinued the two sizes I shot which were 2113 and 2115. :mad:
I still shoot 2018s, but back in the day depending on which bow, shot both 2016s and 2018s and that difference in .002" wall thickness varied greatly in durability. Glance, clip, or miss the entire soft target with a 2016, consider that shaft lost or bent. Also, the older or more 2016s were shot the easier they seemed to bend.
Shot 2117s and 2216s for a while and even though outside diameter is different, durability seemed about the same. To me that thicker one-thousandth of and inch wall (.002" total) seemed to created much more durable shaft....JMO
I like my 1918's and 2018's, and yes they did make a 1920 shaft. If I could find a dozen or so of them I would buy them.
I agree with the heavy wall guys above. The 2219 is my all timne favorite, but dosn't have quite enough spine for my main hunting bow, so I had to go to 2317's. I would have been HAPPY to see a 2220 and in fact I requested that sort of thing from Easton several times. Did you know that they did make a 2040 and a 2240? Mainly as fisharrows, I never did get my hands on either of those sizes, even with direct phone calls to Easton.
I picked up 6 of the 2440s on blahbay about a year ago. Listed as Dangerous game experimental(Easton Experimental marked on shaft) the point end is swaged and ground for a point, Back end open for a uni-nock(2117 may fit). It will make a 31" bop arrow and the shafts weigh about 890 gr. Dont know what the deflection is but it will probably take a 100# bow even with a 250gr VPA up front.
I shoot either 2018's or 2016's out of all my bows. Would be neat to try some 2020's out.
Like the .015 which is closer to .016. 2215, 2315. also like 2020 :thumbsup: :archer2:
2018's here. I've shot them through my barn door, ino my barn door and into the side of my barn. Most of the time they survive, unless I bend them whilst removing them from the dang barn.
B
I was in the .16 camp 1716 - 2016. But talking to Night Wing and tried some 2114 which are very close in spine to 2016 and fell in love with the way they shot in my particular bow. Have had some bad misses on the target bail but never bent one. Besides you can get them long shafts.
I was shooting a 535 grain 2114 out of my 37# bow last year giving me a 14.45 GPP (grain per pound) arrow. It was a little heavy, trajectory wise for my 37# bow. A 2114 weighs 9.9 GPI (grains per inch). It's spine is (.510).
I decided to go lighter this year. Keep in mind I shoot a 32" BOP arrow so I need 32" full length shafts. I also shoot two 66" Blacktail TD recurves.
The only arrow closest in spine to a 2114 is a 2212 target arrow (Eclipse X7) with a spine of (.505). A 2212 weighs 8.8 GPI (grains per inch). This caught my eye. Shooting a 421 grain 2212 out of my 37# bow gives me a 11.37 GPP (grains per pound) arrow.
With a little experimentation, I found I could also shoot the same 421 grain 2212 arrow out of my 42# bow as well giving me a 10.02 GPP (grains per pound) arrow. But, the brace height for each bow is different. I just put two new bowstrings on each bow. Right now, my 42# bow has a 7 13/16" brace height and my 37# bow has a 8 3/16" brace height. The strings might stretch a little more which will change the brace height for each bow, but it should be minimal and I can re-adjust the brace height for each bow accordingly.
I don't worry about the durability issue because with a .012 wall thickness, I don't go stump shooting. I go roving where I shoot at pine cones and large leaves. I've been shooting the 2112 out of both bows since January and I've probably shot the same arrow 2,000 times. The 2112 has been re-fletched twice and it's still straight. I really like this 2212 arrow.
QuoteOriginally posted by hvyhitter:
I picked up 6 of the 2440s on blahbay about a year ago. Listed as Dangerous game experimental(Easton Experimental marked on shaft) the point end is swaged and ground for a point, Back end open for a uni-nock(2117 may fit). It will make a 31" bop arrow and the shafts weigh about 890 gr. Dont know what the deflection is but it will probably take a 100# bow even with a 250gr VPA up front.
I have to think those are collectors items now, I called Easton several times in the late 90's trying to find shafts for water buffalo arrows, I even talked to at least one of their engineers and they said they weren't going to make anymore of those extra heavy shafts. Too bad, it would have saved me a lot of work! I have a big pile of "experimental dangerous game shafts" myself.
Yes, they did make a 1920, and they're real hard to find. I do have a few dozen extra in Easton Swift shaft, and a dozen or two Gamegetters. The only inserts I can let go are glue ons, however.
Heck, the all time thick wall aluminum seems to be the 2440. I picked up about a dozen several years ago. Labelled Easton XX75, Golden Futura Big Game. Black Forest Camo. The 34" bare shaft alone weighs 1025 grains, and the wall looks about as thick as one of those Alaska Bowhunting Supply carbons!
Those super heavy walled shafts, 2040,2240 and 2440 are actually all duplex shafts or double walled, they took one shaft inside the other and drew them down at the same time.
I didn't read your earlier post regarding 2440s before placing mine, Rick. Must have been some kind of time warp! (Or, maybe advancing age on my part!)
I can't see a seam or indication of double walls. Interesting.
oldbohntr, lets just pretend that there is no such thing as senior moments!
I think it was the engineer at Easton who told me that is the way they did it. Since it was "experimental", it wasn't worth the cost of making specialized tooling. I myself worked in R&D at a tubing company for years and worked on a similar project making heavy wall tubing out of three thinwalls of different diameters, sliding them inside each other and then drawing them all through a die to final diameter at the same time. Likely to see the seam, you would have to highly polish the end, etch it and look at it under a high power microscope, the seams show up real well at 500 power!
IMO 2216 is the thinnest wall, I would use. 2219 is my favorite. .017, .018, and .020 are others. Although, I do not care for camo colors, I like the durability of the stronger super-slam.
I love the Super Slam because they are thougher.
I got a bunch of the 2219 "classics" for a buck each, if they had been 2220's or 2222's they would be PERFECT!
I still have 6 2220s that I've had for years. they are xx76 shafts black Forest camo.
Sorry, that is xx75.