I'm currently shooting a 40#@28 and draw 27", would it be crazy to jump to something 57#@27. I'm young only 20, pretty fit and probably shoot around 100 shots a day.
yes it would be crazy. I would suggest 5# increase. Young and fit has not much to do with it.
James
With a 17# jump you'll still be 20, but you'll be frustrated with your form and shooting about 20 shots a day :nono:
Seriously though, I think staying at 40 and developing proper form would be advantageous. How long have you been shooting? Why are you so anxious to jump up in weight?
If you really want to move up in weight I agree that 5# should be fine. Develop your drawing/holding muscles some more and then make another jump. Good luck.
I started shooting when I was about 12 but have only really been serious for about a year, this is when I got the 40# and at first it was a little hard but after a few days I didn't have any problem. I feel the 40 is to easy for me now, and want to increase weight but without having to buy 5 bows.
I was really thinking of going to 52# but I just hopeful that when I get it I'm not wishing I went with more weight.
I do not recommend it, but then again I blew my shoulder out when I was around 20 years old pushing the limit of my shoulders lifting weights.
It was not related to archery, but still a less than intelligent move trying to go up in weight too fast.
Yes, it's expensive to move up in bows slowly, but it's worth not having shoulders like mine for the next 60 years.
I agree with mikebiz in terms of accuracy as well.
As for me, I love my low to mid 40# bows. I have a few up over 50#'s, but would never be able to shoot 57# more than a few a day.
build your self a draw trainer,out of a peice of alum.tube,some elastic (bungi)cord,and two eyelets.I have one with 5 cords,that draws from 35# to 70# depending how many cords I draw.It is 60in long and feels just like drawing a bow. Burt
Take your time and work your way up in weight. bsv has the right idea for building strength in your shoulders and back, trainers do work. Develop your form first before moving up in weight. Good Luck
It would be real crazy.It is the kind of thing that can create form issues that will plague you the rest of your life.I agree with the 5# increase.
I agree with everyone else in just increasing by 5# at a time, Form is more important than raw strength in terms of your longevity in the sport & abilities of maintaining accuracy.
Yes it would be crazy, take you time do it the right way it will come. I had and older gentleman tell me when I was in my twenty "if I new I was going to last this long I would of taken better care of myself" fast forward twenty years I get what he saying.
Yup. Crazy. I have fought tendonitis for years until I finally wised up and went down in weight. I also spend a great deal of time on low-weight/high-rep weight lifting concentrating on shoulders and back muscles, especially lifts designed to prevent rotor cuff injuries.
One thing you can do though is go to an ILF bow. You're 20. It would be a good investment. Check out the Trad Tech Pinnacle II and from there you can choose from a wide assortment of limbs (some expensive like carbon & foam and some glass limbs that are pretty cheap). You can also go back and forth from long bow to recurve. And... you can trade and sell the limbs if you want as you move up in draw weight. Then when you get where you think you're going you can spend your nest egg on a custom bow.
Split the difference first, get a fifty pounder, work up to it. Once comfortable with that make the jump again..........
Buy a take down with an extra set of limbs. Go up to 47# and then the other set could be 55#. I'm going thru the paces right now from shooting to heavy of a bow. I went from 68# down to 64#, then last year I traded for a 59# then bought a 57# 3 piece for which I just ordered a set of 45# limbs for.
I also just had a MRI done to my shoulder on Thursday, and find out the results on Tuesday. It was so bad, I can't even shoot my buddies 45# bear Kodiak. SHoulder problems have plagued me for about 15 years, and I have finally gotten to the point where putting it off is no longer an option. Go up slowly in weight, or you will deffinatly regret it later in life. And believe me, it is absolutely no fun at all having stuff either hurt continously, or go numb on you.
I guess it all depends on how "Easy" the 40#er is, but yeah, thats a Big jump ....
Keep the 40#.
And shoot 200 arrows a day.
Deffinetly crazy , try something heavyer from one of your buddies for a couple hundred one after another shots and you will understand.
Why exactly 57#? Is there a certain bow that you have your eye on? If it's a used one, and a deal that might not come along again, I say go for it. If you are buying a new bow, I wouldn't jump that far in draw weight. Maybe go to 50#, even that is will feel pretty heavy compared to 40". 57# isn't that heavy a draw weight that most adult men can't handle it, whether you need it is another discussion.
You don't say what you will do with it. Target work, you are better off staying with the weight you have. A new bow might be fun, but you don't need more weight. For hunting, a bump is probably a good idea. I see you are in Australia, some big critters over there and 57# is far from overkill on large game. If this is a chance at a nice used custom bow that will disappear if you pass, buy it. If not, listen to the solid advice already given in your post.
SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE,,,IN END U WONT BE DISAPOINTED,,,TRY 5# INCREASE, BUY A USED BOW THAT U LIKE, WOULD RECOMMEND ONE THAT U COULD TRADE FOR OR SELL PRETTY FAST IN CLASSIFIEDS,,,SO WHEN U HAVE CONTROL OVER THE BOW ,AND YOUR SHOOTING IT LIKE YOUR 40# U THEN COULD MOVE ON TILL YOU REACH YOUR DESIRED WEIGHT,,, MAYBE YOU'LL FIND THAT 57# IS NOT WHERE U WANT TO BE,,,U MIGHT FIND YOUR GROOVE AT A LIGHTER WEIGHT ,BETWEEN 50# AND 57#, GOOD ENOUGH FOR ANY BIG GAME KILL,,,REMEMBER IF YOUR LIKE OTHERS HERE U ALSO WANT TO SHOOT GOOD DURING THE 3D COURSE WHILE HAVING FUN,YOU'LL BUILD CONFIDENCE,AND AT THE SAME TIME BE RESPECTED FOR BEING A GREAT SHOT,AMONGST YOUR FRIENDS WHICH IS ALSO GREAT,,,MAKE THE BEST OF THE TRANSITION, BUYING, SELLING,AND TRADING,WHILE LEARNING ALL NEW THINGS ALONG THE WAY,,,THATS MY SIMPLE AND HUMBLE OPINION,GOOD LUCK,,,
I don't think it's crazy. You don't have to start out shooting 100 shots a day. If you've been shooting that much for a year with the 40# your body is conditioned to shooting.
Start each day with the 40#, shoot a couple dozen to warm up then grab the 57# and shoot half a dozen for a few days, concentrating on good form. After a few days shoot the 40 a little less and the 57 a little more. Continue until you've weaned yourself of the 40 and are shooting the heavier bow all the time.
Take at least one day of rest per week and more if your body needs it. If you start having shoulder or accuracy problems, drop back down in weight.
There's a lot of wisdom coming from the guys saying "don't do it". Take note and be careful.
I started with a 55# when I was 20 and fit so I know it can be done. I still shoot that 55# now that I'm 45 and fat, but still don't hesitate to shoot friend's 70#+ bows when given the chance, I just don't shoot 100 times the first day.
CJ
There's a lot of difference between a 40lb and 57lb bow. I remember when I was young, strong, in good shape and shooting tournaments regularly with a #48lb recurve and pulled back a 60lber., was nothing I wanted to have to hold at full draw.
I'd find a 50lb, draw it and see how it feels and go from there.
Sorry but I kind of disagree, only because we need more info. If you are 20 and bench press 300#s than the 17#s more may not be very difficult to shoot. You actually may get a cleaner release. When I started in trad, I shot 55#s to start and quickly jumped to 72-75# bows and shot them very well. After a few years I settled at 62-65#s only because I shot wood and to find arrows that spined 90-95#s or more were hard to find. I now shoot 52-55#s and am happy with that! I have not read the whole thread but again if you are a strong guy and can hold the bow at full draw for 10 seconds and not shake or your muscles tremble than you may not have a problem jumping that much in weight. Shawn
Might want to think about a ILF rig. That way all you will have to buy is limbs as you progress. Hoyt Excel is one a lot of us have. I think it's about $179 and limbs can be had for $89 or even cheaper on the used market.
I agree with Shawn. When I was 16, I got my first laminated longbow. It was a 55#@28" hill-style. I pulled it to about 30". Up until then all I had shot were my hickory selfbows. I had no problems shooting it. Now, I didn't stand in front of a target and sling arrow after arrow, but I would spend several hours at a time out stump shooting. I took a lot of game with that bow, and have suffered not ill-effects from doing so. That weight is still my preference, some 25 years later.
When I was 20, I had a couple of 90# hickory backed hickory bows. They were fun to shoot, but it was difficult to find arrows for them, so I ended up trading them away.
I was pretty strong then, too. Working on a farm, loading hay, splitting wood (with a maul), fooling with horses and cows, etc. I also played football and lifted weights on a regular basis.
I also had pretty decent shooting form, which came from a lot of trial and error with my weaker selfbows.
Of course, not knowing you and seeing you shoot, it's practically impossible to know whether you can shoot the heavier weight or not. I personally don't think that 57# is all that much. Borrow a bow of similar weight and find out.
Doesn't seem crazy to me if you are actually shooting 100 arrows a day with #40.
There are a lot more variables you could fill in though.
I'm not a huge guy and I don't do weights but I do practice holding the 40# for 10 seconds and could probably hold it back for about 30 before I really start to shake, I do this even tho I normally release as soon as I hit full draw(shooting instinctively).
Almost all of my practice is stumping lately but I do sometimes shoot really close range bales to work on form.
Also I would still have the 40# to train with like CaptainJ said, but don't know how long it would really take to adjust.
I'd say get the one you want. Personally, I'd go the used route and get something that has some resale value. I wouldn't shoot it as much as you do the lighter bow, but it won't take long for you to adjust to it.