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Title: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on May 19, 2011, 04:47:00 AM
What works as well or better than Seal skin?
Seems you can't buy it anymore..???
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: magnus on May 19, 2011, 05:31:00 AM
Get a hold of Jeremy in the sponsors classifieds. I got a mink rest from him and it's is fantastic! Slick and durable!!! He a great guy to deal with too.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on May 19, 2011, 05:35:00 AM
Thanks for the info!!
I will see what he has available..
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: YORNOC on May 19, 2011, 05:46:00 AM
Marine mammal protection act. No mercy here, one of my fur suppliers explained this whole deal, very lengthy. Dont bring any into the US. Even if obtained legally in Canada, illegal in the States, heavy fines for even the smallest offense. If existing before the act took place, you have to PROVE it.
Not worth it guys!
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Stumpkiller on May 19, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
Yeeps!  That's the shelf pad I have on my 'ol Explorer.  And it's getting bare.

Drat and blast!
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on May 19, 2011, 03:20:00 PM
Wow!!
Good to know..
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: PICKNGRIN on May 19, 2011, 04:06:00 PM
Fortunately, industrial velcro does not fall under the marine mammal protection act!
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: RM81 on May 19, 2011, 04:26:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by PICKNGRIN:
Fortunately, industrial velcro does not fall under the marine mammal protection act!
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: McDave on May 19, 2011, 06:09:00 PM
"Exploding seal population devastates fish stocks." (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9183672/5393654643/)  

Thank goodness somebody is looking out for the seals!  Maybe some well-meaning group should look into protecting the wild hog population in Texas?   :confused:
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: YORNOC on May 19, 2011, 07:08:00 PM
Heh, yeah, typical government intervention.Go by emotion, not scientific fact.  Maybe the rats under NY could use some help too.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Al Dente on May 19, 2011, 07:30:00 PM
Ever try a rat skin rest?
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Huntschool on May 19, 2011, 07:56:00 PM
Or a "back yard" mole skin
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: michigan bill on May 19, 2011, 07:58:00 PM
lol, al dente.
i bought an otter skin for seven bucks at a mountain man expo of some sorts.  i like the otter every bit as much as i liked seal skin - it is absolutely silent as an arrow draws across it.
i've been turkey hunting a lot lately - season just closed last Sunday - and i drew the bow a dozen or so times with deer within six or seven yards and they never heard a thing.  when i do that with velcro at that short distance i believe they hear the arrow drag across the rest.  actually, i'm certain they hear it.
i have to give the haircut to the otter myself to get the hair real short but that is no big deal.  and i think the one skin will last me the remainder of this lifetime.
bill
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Killdeer on May 19, 2011, 08:02:00 PM
Hmmm.
I thought that sealskin products made by Alaskan natives were still legal, and that the problem was that the indigenous peoples were not producing these items.
Glad I stocked up.
Killdeer

PS,
I have some Stewart bows which are shelved with calf hair. I have NO complaints.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: BOWMARKS on May 19, 2011, 08:19:00 PM
Seal Skin on all my Morrison's and some spairs to go with them,I also stocked up.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: 2wfstlhunting on May 19, 2011, 08:34:00 PM
I actually do have a piece that I got somewhere commercially years ago.  What do you guys use for adhesive: Barge cement?

Steve
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Killdeer on May 19, 2011, 09:18:00 PM
Uh-huh.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on May 20, 2011, 02:20:00 AM
I wish there was moles in Hawaii.. I would try it.
I tried goat skin but didn't last to long.
Never tried rat though??
Velcro is whats on my bow but pigs hear the draw after the velcro starts to wear..
Beaver and otter sound good.
Anyone got couple squares they can sell me?
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Mack Marine on May 20, 2011, 05:29:00 AM
Check Goodwill, old antiques stores, an yard sales. I got a ladies seal hat for around $4 a while back. Fur coat liner work great for string silencers. Stuff is out there...
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on May 20, 2011, 07:43:00 AM
That's a good idea! Never thought about that..
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Friend on May 20, 2011, 07:51:00 AM
Could the seals be growing velcro now?
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: JimB on May 20, 2011, 11:20:00 AM
The Marine Mammal Protection Act has been around since 1972.it is nothing new.I don't think it was truly legal to sell seal skin when we could get it.My recollection is that the only time you could buy Native harvested marine mammal parts was when it incorporated some kind of native art like scrimshaw on ivory.When I bought seal from archery suppliers,it had a machine stitch line on one edge.I think this was to get around the law and say that it was native art.I truly suspect someone put their foot down.

Purchasing wildlife parts can be tricky and there are laws,state and federal.It is legal to purchase things that were made before a ban like this,if it can be documented that it is pre-ban.

I think there are plenty of options for arrow rests and sideplates and I think a lot of options have been overlooked.The hair on the shins of many hoofed animals is slick and tough,for a reason and I bet it would make excellent rest material.Looking at a variety of animals including African,one could come up with about any hair length and color he wanted.A mountain of this stuff is discarded every year.Your local taxidermy shop might be a good place to check.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: PaddyMac on May 20, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
This has been ages ago, but Patrick's Fly Shop on Eastlake Ave. in Seattle had 2"x2" documented pre MMPA seal skin patches. Kinda spendy.

Uh, yeah, velcro.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Stumpkiller on May 20, 2011, 11:24:00 AM
My wife has a seal-fur coat that was her mother's.  Looks much different than the rest fur though it is certainly soft and shiney . . . wonder if she'd notice a 1/2" x 2" piece of hide missing?
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Bjorn on May 20, 2011, 12:13:00 PM
All kinds on the auction site-including grandma's old jacket.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: TxAg on May 20, 2011, 02:25:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JimB:
The Marine Mammal Protection Act has been around since 1972.it is nothing new.I don't think it was truly legal to sell seal skin when we could get it.My recollection is that the only time you could buy Native harvested marine mammal parts was when it incorporated some kind of native art like scrimshaw on ivory.When I bought seal from archery suppliers,it had a machine stitch line on one edge.I think this was to get around the law and say that it was native art.I truly suspect someone put their foot down.

Purchasing wildlife parts can be tricky and there are laws,state and federal.It is legal to purchase things that were made before a ban like this,if it can be documented that it is pre-ban.

I think there are plenty of options for arrow rests and sideplates and I think a lot of options have been overlooked.The hair on the shins of many hoofed animals is slick and tough,for a reason and I bet it would make excellent rest material.Looking at a variety of animals including African,one could come up with about any hair length and color he wanted.A mountain of this stuff is discarded every year.Your local taxidermy shop might be a good place to check.
Excellent post. I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: YORNOC on May 20, 2011, 03:10:00 PM
I was told that most seal skin rests sold here(in US) were under the radar, and many sellers didn't even know there was an issue. Even manufactured by native is not exempt according to my fur supplier. He has been in fur trading for 40 years, is world known and would not touch a piece of seal skin to save his life.
I don't think too many government employees are checking bow rests, but it really stinks that if you are caught possesing it, you are 100% responsible.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: Stumpkiller on May 20, 2011, 03:34:00 PM
Didn't Mr. Herters - the Cabela of his day - get smashed by the Feds in the mid to late 60's for selling Jungle Cock capes to fly-tyers?  Broke his heart and spirit and he died a few years after.  Now they're legal again.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on May 20, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
I use to buy it from Cabelas..

Stumpkiller
I think your wife wouldn't notice.. lol..
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: DannyBows on May 20, 2011, 06:17:00 PM
I got a whole Leopard Seal Skin off the auction site for $30 a couple years ago. I did a Giveaway Xmas before last and gave chunks to 16 TGer's. I squerriled a little away though.

I got some Nutria skin rest and side-plate material off the auction site and it's pretty good. Soft and wears well. Cheap enough too.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: bucksbuouy on May 20, 2011, 07:58:00 PM
ahhh Im sure its for the best. they are cute lil boogers anyway.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on May 20, 2011, 11:12:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by DannyBows:
I got a whole Leopard Seal Skin off the auction site for $30 a couple years ago. I did a Giveaway Xmas before last and gave chunks to 16 TGer's. I squerriled a little away though.

I got some Nutria skin rest and side-plate material off the auction site and it's pretty good. Soft and wears well. Cheap enough too.
That's good to know.
You have any skins left that I can buy off you?
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: SMA on May 21, 2011, 11:06:00 PM
St. Judes Auction has some nice pieces on #5.
Title: Re: Why no more Seal Skin Arrow Rest?
Post by: IGetTargetPanic on May 22, 2011, 12:48:00 AM
I'll go check it out!