Could some of you post pics with this broadheads.Also include some stories of there good or bad qualitys.
Although most of my kills have been with Zwickey Delta 4 blades....I have used the WWs on a few occasions....From bunnies, to Grouse, to Hogs, and Bison.
I don't have anything bad to say about them.
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that's what i use, good ol' wensel woodsman. on those rare moments when i think about a different broadhead, terry gives me a timely reality check. :D
some folks don't think they can be made razor sharp but they sure can, and super easy, too. i was with ron of kme sharpeners at the whitt event this past weekend and he sharpened a wensel SCARY RAZOR SHARP. this has got to be one of the easiest broadheads to sharpen. i love my wensels!
my first hog, killed with a wensel ...
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I have been shooting Woodsmans for the last 5-6 years. Great heads. I killed this deer with the original Woodsman.
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Woodsman Elite, 125 gr.
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Turkey was dead in about 3 seconds, shot with original Woodsman.
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Original Woodsman kill.
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And another the day after the buck antelope.
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Last August with Woodsman Elite.
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Woodsman Elite kill.
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Woodsman Elite again.
Shot Magnus 2 blades for many years.switched to Woodsman Elite 160 grain last year shot a deer with 1 and it made a believer out of me.Gave my sons my 2 blade heads and got some more Woodsman Elites.
your killin me Tracy! Great animals, that goat from last year is a stud!
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A great head!
Great pictures guys!! If I were thinking about buying woodsmens those pics would close the sale for sure!
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Blood trail from this bull. Got penetration out other side. He only made it 40 yards and fell.
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Original Woodsman kill.
I agree with Rob. You can get these heads really sharp.
I did curl the tip on one of the Original Woodsmans. My fault, I left it a needle tip, didn't file it to a chisel tip.
I did have a blade bend on one Original Woodsman also. I hit a large Nebraska buck a bit in his shoulder bone. He only made it about 30 yards though.
No issues with the Elites at all. Even when I shot over a javelina and hit a large rock head on. Just resharpened the head, and it was ready again.
Great pics, Shedrock!
Tracy - you have taken some really nice trophies with your WW, but you saved the *best* photo for last!
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Very nice bull!
Shoot straight, Shinken
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Nice Shed!...... :campfire:
very good ang tough broadhead , only one thing to do, don't forget to remove the needle point
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Monsieur Shed :notworthy: :notworthy:
Nice roe buck david,congratulations.
Shedrock for sure you put at good use those WW!
Here are a couple WW kills. The story on the bull is coming up in the next (I think) issue of TBM.
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AWESOME trophies Mark!
Hopin' you get a full curl in range with your W-tipped arras this season!
Shoot straight, Shinken
You and me both David, I think I'd even be happy with a legal 1/2 curl. It will be a WW on my arrow.
looks great everyone! i have a dozen but havent killed anything with them yet, i switched to zwickeys wheni got a slim jim.
TTT lets see more animals taken with the Wensel Woodsman
Shedrock-
Don't think that I've seen the two arrow quiver setup for a Woodsman before, do you have a link on where you got it?
Thanks
David
Tracy some great pics love your work Thnaks Shane
The photos herein speak for themselves as to the veracity of the Wensel Woodsman. I can offer only this little " ditty" to explain my thoughts on the WW. I had a particularly bothersome groundhog in my neighbourhood who had taken up residence beneath my woodshed, and thus, awaited his appearance one morning as he stuck his head out beneath his access point. Behind him was a concrete block positioned there to block off part of the access. With only his head showing, I fired a cedar arrow armed ewith a WW original, using a 41 pound longbow. You guessed it! "Pesky" pulled his heasd back on the shot and the arrow embedded itself in the concrete block about 1/2". Retrieval of the arrow caused the needle-like point to break off. That arrow is now a stump shooter, much shorter than original. Needless to say, even though I am a two-blade shooter for everything except turkey season, I was some impressed with the WW.
I have taken hogs, deer, and racoon with the woodsman both the original and the elite. I have to say that my preference is the elite. It is tough as nails! You can bend them, but you have to hit something really, really hard. The first pig that I shot the elite went about 60 yrds and had a great BT. The doe I shot last year only went about 70 yrds and was easy to trail. They are a great head.
Another one just like this on the other side.
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Awesome pics guys, very nice animals.
Great trophies, everybody. Terry that bison looks as big as a bus!
I like the woodmans BH. Mike
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Rob DiStefano for got his 2nd hog.....
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What a BRUTE! Congrats to Rob!
I've ww the last 4 seasons and I am very pleased with them. Everything that I shot (right) with them died ASAP. The elk in my Name plate was the first of many.
Joe
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I like them too.
I don't get crazy with the sharpening either. I stroke them with a good grobet file, firm at first and then barely any pressure.
I don't know about shaving but they go through a deer or pig like a hot knife in butter.
I have never tried the Elite's.
Started using the woodsman Elite last year and don't plan on stopping put a awsome hole in my buck this year and hopfully in my elk this year if I'm lucky. Widow
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How do you folks think the Woodsmans will do with lower-weight bows, say 40 -45 lbs. on deer sized game?
I have killed hogs and deer with them. Had one of the origionals break ona hog inside the insert.No other problems. Shooting the elites now.
QuoteOriginally posted by Swinestalker:
How do you folks think the Woodsmans will do with lower-weight bows, say 40 -45 lbs. on deer sized game?
That's what they were designed for. Just ask Gene or Barry.
Rob, I'd be interested to hear how you sharpen these heads.. Thanks for your time !
QuoteOriginally posted by Pat B.:
Rob, I'd be interested to hear :D how you sharpen these heads.. Thanks for your time !
as showed to me by master blade sharpening guru, sensei ron @ kme ...
1. the blades must be straight and sometimes with new woodsmans there's a bit of concave showing. there are 2 basic ways to remove the concave ...
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- use a sanding belt (table belt sanding station or a handheld belt sander that's clamped to a table top) with 120 grit or so and lay down the head so that the belt is moving from the back of the head to the point ...
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... put a bit of added pressure on the tip to remove that needle point - it can be a subtle set of angles to each blade side or it can be a very chiselled pyramid look. i opt for the subtle angle (which is hard to see in the pix) 'cause i think that works best with bows 55# and under ...
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- OR, you can hog the blades flat on a good mill bastard file such as a 12" grobet (also making sure to remove the needle point!) - just lay the head down flat on the file and push from the file's tip to its handle base end ...
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2. after getting the blade edges straight, work the blades using that good mill bastard file ... that is, press and push the broadhead from the front of the file to the files base end. i do 5 pushes on each duo of blades, then 4, then 3, then 2, then 1. this will significantly raise a burr on the edges that can readily be felt. this head is now sharp enough to efficiently and humanely kill deer and hogs if well placed. but we can do lots better ...
3. remove the burr on the blades ... basically, this is blade stropping and can be done with a fine stone, or hard leather - i like a fine stone. the blade is
LIGHTLY pushed on the oiled stone, just a few strokes on each pair of blades.
VERY LIGHTLY. all yer doing is removing the burr which will reveal the razor's edge that's underneath ...
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4. i like to do a bit of "final stropping", as ron showed me - just a few really
LIGHT strokes on a piece of corrugated cardboard ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
QuoteOriginally posted by Swinestalker:
How do you folks think the Woodsmans will do with lower-weight bows, say 40 -45 lbs. on deer sized game?
That's what they were designed for. Just ask Gene or Barry. [/b]
Duly noted, thanks.
Rob, thank you for the lesson on sharpening..
BTW, I really do know the difference between here and hear!
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I broke the spine of this 180-200# wild boar with a WW original,the blade severed also a major arthery.She never made a single step.
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I had a pass through on this nice 225# black bear.
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Hearth shot on this 200#Boar WW original.
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I started to use them 2 years ago and I have to say that I recovered all my animal within 50yards,but the shots were really good ones too.
Shot a buck close to my stand and shot high but the arrow went clean through the spine and into the body cavity. The only reason the arrow stopped was the bone was digging into the shaft. The head was fine no bend or messed up tip. PS I put a pyramid point on the head. The bow is 49@27 with 510grain arrow.
Many people who have trouble getting WW sharp do a couple things wrong. Many simply try "too hard." First rule: ALWAYS, ALWAYS make your final few file strokes VERY light. Frustration often leads to excessive "power filing" which keeps rolling over a thin edge. LIGHT strokes at the end. When I finish filing with very light strokes, then I say to myself, "I'm now done removing metal and just want/need to polish (hone) it." Then I use something very hard. I use a fine diamond bench stone but a ceramic stone or black hard Arkansas will also work to hone the edges smooth. I then always strop my edges with White Gold Honing Compound on a leather strop, pulling the head straight back toward me. This product is outstanding for putting a mirror edge on a honed head. It is essentially diamond dust impregnated in wax. It works much better than jeweler's rouge in my opinion. Its inexpensive too. I get mine from pinewoodforge.com
Thanks Gene.....I've used jewelers rouge for years....looks like I'm gonna dump that.
thanx for the tip on the white gold - i just ordered some out. like terry, i'd also been using jeweler's rouge. :thumbsup:
Thanks Gene, and now what to do with that lifetime supply of jeweler's rouge? :)
Jeff
PS I still drool at Mike's double buck picture. That is amazing. Anybody have a link to the story behind the photo? I spent my first 18 years in southern Illinois and sure miss those bruiser bucks!
montanawidower,
what part of s.i.? i lived near mt. vernon, now in the pinckneyville area.
Great info on sharpening.
every once in a while I think about trying a different broadhead, then I ask myself- what am I gaining? Penetration... doubt it, cutting capability...really doubt it, acuracy... no way, ease of sharpening... no way, and a lifetime warranty. Just a great, great design.
Nschlag, I hunted Wayne county in the late 80's. I learned bowhunting from my uncle Larry Stutts from Wayne City (one of the original trad archers in SI from the 50's and 60's and cloverdale regular). I'm heading back to hunt with him this fall for the first time 20 years! I can't wait... I love Ill whitetails.
that's great mountainwidower. i know several wayne co. folk. i am lived on the county line between jefferson and hamilton counties, just about 20 minutes from wayne city.
nice running into you
Thanks Rob, just what I was searching for on the Wensel Woodsmans....
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I just grabbed some woodsmen elites. 175 I hope I can show you guys some pics in a couple of weeks.
I definitely prefer the Elites to the originals. Both are great, but the originals needed a bit of help with a file to get the edges true.
Is anyone still making the originals?
I love both the originals and the elites. If I had to pick one head to do all of my hunting with it would be the Woodsman Elite 175 grain.
A 175 gr Woodsman. 100 meters. Dead elk. Broken shoulder off side. Removed, resharpened, ready to use. That's a broad head.
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I have killed many deer with the original woodsman and doubt I will ever switch to anything else. I see no need to spend more on the elite.