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Title: Cutting carbon
Post by: Knawbone on April 26, 2011, 07:07:00 PM
What can I use to cut carbon shafts? I have never used carbon, but have a few to try and need to cut them down to my draw length.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: karrow on April 26, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
a die grinder with a cut off wheel is what i use works great. maybe try a search.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Possum Head on April 26, 2011, 07:24:00 PM
Any 3 1/2 to 4" electric grinder with the thinner cut-off wheel works great and with half an eyeball you can cut shafts square enough.Even the generic brand grinders should serve you a lifetime of arra cuttin!Enjoy your carbons.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Kurt Miller on April 26, 2011, 07:26:00 PM
I built a cradle out of scrap wood to hold my Dremel tool on a foot long piece of MDF about 4" wide.  then built a nock cradle/stop that clamps on at whatever length I need. Works great and cost a whole lot less than store bought (of course if you don't already have a Dremel, not so cheap:)  Maybe I get around to taking a pic and PM you later.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: JRY309 on April 26, 2011, 07:32:00 PM
For me I never cut a carbon down to my draw length without shooting one first.Carbons do not come in as many different spines as wood and aluminum do.I start out with a specific static spine with the weight I want up front.I then shoot,trim and tune until I get the right dynamic spine that works best with my bow.I let my tuning determine the final length.I cut my carbons with a mini chop saw with a high speed cut off wheel.I've seen plenty of used carbons that were cut down and they just couldn't get them to fly right.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 26, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
a dremel carbide wheel works best for me. be careful with saws if yer forced to use one as carbon will splinter!
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: ishoot4thrills on April 26, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
Maybe try something like this:

(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Arrowsawtarget006.jpg)

(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Arrowsawtarget008.jpg)

(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Arrowsawtarget007.jpg)

(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Arrowsawtarget010.jpg)

If you got something like a Dremel, there's no limit to what you can do with one!
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: 30pointbuck on April 26, 2011, 07:44:00 PM
Now thats cool.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Knawbone on April 26, 2011, 07:47:00 PM
Thanks TGers, I have A Dremel, didn't think of that, thanks. JRY, thanks for the tip, yea I was  going to shoot these first before I cut them realizing the spine factor, but have to change the fletchings first as there the unsightly plastic vanes.What would be the best lenght for fletching.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Knawbone on April 26, 2011, 07:54:00 PM
Ishoot4thrills, You must be a lefty, I would build my jig the other way. Thanks for the pics.Nicely done    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 26, 2011, 08:04:00 PM
though at one time i also built a dremel cutting jig, but after awhile i found it easier to just mark the shaft cut length with a pencil and make the dremel cut free hand just before the mark.  i true up to the line a 120 grit sanding wheel (or even by hand with a 120 grit emery board).  i ALWAYS use slow set epoxy for all carbon inserts and that also seals the cut end of the carbon tube.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Johnny_Cash on April 26, 2011, 08:49:00 PM
Might check out one of these:

  Cut off saw (http://www.harborfreight.com/bench-top-cut-off-saw-42307.html)  

I recently bought one and it works great.  You can always find them on sale (think I paid $15 for mine).  I like it better than a die grinder or dremel because you always know the cut will be straight.  Just another option.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: The Whittler on April 26, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
However you cut your carbons, be sure to wear a mask. Carbon dust is very bad for your lungs.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Pullonmylimb on April 26, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
Gotta love harbor freight tools.  They aren't pretty but most are workhorses for sure.

Might also try taping the shaft with masking tape to prevent splintering.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: BOWMARKS on April 26, 2011, 10:10:00 PM
I would go with the Harbor Freight saw also. Cuts all types of shafts and nice and straight.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: LimBender on April 26, 2011, 10:52:00 PM
I got a F/S Archery arrow saw, squared it up and drilled it to an oak board.  It is 5,000 rpms, but cut some carbons cleanly if you go slow and rotate.  For the price, I'm happy with it and it seems pretty solid.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: JParanee on April 27, 2011, 12:12:00 AM
I got one of these on **** for half the price

Really works good

http://www.3riversarchery.com/Gift+Ideas+Ultimate+Gifts++Apple+Power+Arrow+Cut-Off+Saw_c48_s239_p0_i5621_product.html
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Duffy on April 27, 2011, 12:46:00 AM
I use an abrasive blade on my miter saw. It cuts square every time. I have cut a couple dozen so far with no problems.

     Duffy
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Dave Thaxton on April 27, 2011, 08:48:00 AM
I just mark length on arrow, slide in a long brass insert and cut off slowly with a tubing cutter, slightly tightening with each round. Swipe with 200 grit sandpaper to smooth. dozen arrows cut in 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: JGRAHAM on April 27, 2011, 05:01:00 PM
I have a cut off saw like the one shown on Harbor Freight.  I made a jig for woody's and carbon.  Works great.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: Pepper on April 27, 2011, 05:08:00 PM
Not a good idea.  Tubing cutters work with pressure as well as a cutting wheel.
This will cause fiber seperation in the area of the cut.
  :confused:   "I just mark length on arrow, slide in a long brass insert and cut off slowly with a tubing cutter, slightly tightening with each round. Swipe with 200 grit sandpaper to smooth. dozen arrows cut in 10 minutes."

Get a high speed cutting tool, or pay the minimum fee at a pro shop, and get them cut correctly, it will save you money and headaches in the long run.
I don't know of any arrow mfgr who recommends cutting carbons in this manner.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: mahantango on April 27, 2011, 06:33:00 PM
I have an old 8 1/4" Ryobi miter saw that I mounted an abrasive blade in and dedicated to an arrow saw. I also wrap the shafts with masking tape at the cut location - and do it outdoors, the dust is nasty.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: nschlag on April 27, 2011, 06:42:00 PM
dremel mounted on the tool post of a metal lathe is what i use.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: ishoot4thrills on April 27, 2011, 07:30:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Knawbone:
Ishoot4thrills, You must be a lefty, I would build my jig the other way. Thanks for the pics.Nicely done     :thumbsup:  
No, not a lefty. I think most commercial arrow saws are similar to mine as far as where everything is located.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: reddogge on April 27, 2011, 08:20:00 PM
I do like Rob does when tuning but then I give them to my friend who has a high speed arrow saw and he cuts them.
Title: Re: Cutting carbon
Post by: RM81 on April 28, 2011, 09:05:00 AM
Definitely use a high speed cutting tool with the abrasive cutoff wheel.  Carbon will splinter and it will cost you more in medical bills than it would to either buy an arrow saw, use a dremel, or get the cutoff tool from harbor freight.  Stay away from hand saws or the manual tube cutters on carbon.  Also, do not use the metal saw blades used to cut wood.  They will splinter carbon also.