Trad Gang

We are also receiving a lot of SPAM lately.  Certain vendors are determined to get a 'free ride' by using this site to promote there goods.

When we see a company posted about 'in passing' there is no problem.  Trad Gang is about the free flow of information.

However, when we see the same company having multiple threads, and some of the threads are started by the same 'new' member, and a pattern appears, those threads will be deleted.  They will also get deleted when these type threads continue to get TTT'd for no real reason and run for weeks by just a handful of folks as a jaw jaw session just to keep the vendors thread at the top for more promotion.

Also, lots of these type spammers folks that sign up as '3rd party' praises ....usually nothing wrong with that, but there are those that sign up and RUN and start multiple threads on the same company.

Also, there are folks that guise their selling in many ways soon as they get here....they do it in the name of 'helping trad archery', but then we start to see a 2nd, 3rd and 4th thread by them showing only their goods...and they just got here last week.  Then once their threads are pulled thy go crying about 'how they were treated'....and how sorry the administrators are.  All the while they didn't even consider how they were treating the Sponsor's of the site that help us all keep what we have.  Not to mention the total misconceptions, assumptions and name calling these folks do.

Once they are 'found out' and email politely, they get all defensive and 'think they know all about the site, the money, the sponsors, threats and ya'da ya'da ya'da.  Yeah, they say its 'all about the money'.  Oh, what little they know.  When you read what they right, its all about 'them' in reality.

It aint about the money, never was, and it wasn't about them either, or you, or you, or even you over there....its about Trad Bowhunting and US.  

And after this weekend's barrage of emails...I realize there are WAY more of you that get it than don't.

I'm here for those that get it....you are the soul reason I started the site.

Thank You.

Ditto the Grinch

Shoot straight, Shinken

Thanks for yr care!

I am so grateful to be proven right once again...lol

"T"  I'm never surprised at just "how much" you care for and about us.

Your track record speaks volumes so looking into the future always looks brighter.

An occasional bump never seems to do more than cause a change for the better.

Thank you and your team(all moderators)

God bless,Mudd

Thanks Terry!  :thumbsup:

Terry,

If ever there is anything we can do to help, let us know. We are with ya bud. Thanks for your effort!

Yes, thank you all!  I realize the amount of work that has to go into this site to make it a good as it is.  My hats off.

God Bless,
Nathan

Terry,
Thanks to you and all the others that work hard in providing this site.  I am largely self taught in trad archery; by reading books and trial and error over the years.  This sight has increased my knowledge and enjoyment of traditional archery by leaps and bounds.  One of the things that have helped me the most are the threads and discussions on target panic.  For many years I thought this was one of my unique mental flaws.  Great to talk with people who have or are experiencing the same things.  However there are still things for me to learn; like what does TTT mean?  Thanks again!
Gary

Thank You Terry , Rob , and Mods. Without your diligence (compass), I would be lost. Since retiring and finding this site I have felt secure in any dealings on this site. That is why I'm here! Maxx

A big THANKS from the other side of the globe.I really appreciate all your effort.Even though i am from a very far place, i have successfully bought some items in the classifieds and very thankful for it.

Thanks Terry for all you do.

You da man Terry

Stay on 'em Bigun!

Like has been said many, many, many times before, there is no way that we as individuals, or collectivley as a group can thank you and your crew for all that you do.
Keep up the good work, and if and or when help is needed, don't hesitate to call.
Thanks
Pepper

Thanks and keep it up!  Your efforts make this the best site to spend time around!!

Yup, thanks, Terry.  You do a great job and we love hanging out at your campfire.

To those companies that pull this crap, do you realize how turned off we the customers are by that jazz?  I will go far, far out of my way to avoid doing buisness with a company that resorts to spamming to try and sell their product.

:thumbsup:

Thank you Terry!

Thanks guys....we had a guy just waltz in here a couple of weeks ago and started setting up shop under the guise of 'how to'...he then began taking orders.

When Rob emailed him and cleaned up the thread and put it back.  After than, he started THREE more thread on HIS work....once those were found they were removed, then he made a public post about how bad he was treated.  Then the email came with all the assumptions and name calling.  He never once, and still doesn't understand or respect that there are folks that sponsor this site.  They were never considered by him.  

A post 'in passing' is no big deal, but when there's a blatant pattern we will protect those that sponsor this site.  Even it that means we get blasted elsewhere in the net.  We are going to take care of our own here, and not be road ruff shod by anyone that doesn't respect the rules or the policies.

Its been that way since day one, and even before we had sponsors we did not allow this type of solicitation.  And we are still doing the same thing today.

Good for you Terry.. Keep up the GOOD WORK.. There are many of us who appreciate it..

Thanks for your diligence.  :thumbsup:

Thanks guys.  I really appreciate these explanations also.  It provides everyone the understanding needed to accept a decision.

Again    THANK YOU  Terry  and to all the admin.
As stated above "There are many of us who appreciate it.."
                     Pete

Thanks Terry , this is the best site

Thanks! It's good to see an explanation for things that happen with the forum. This is the best forum and I don't want to see it go bad.

QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:

And after this weekend's barrage of emails...I realize there are WAY more of you that get it than don't.

I'm here for those that get it....you are the soul reason I started the site.

Yep Terry, that's exactly it.  In police work we spend 95% of our time dealing with the 5% of deadbeats who will never play by society's rules.  We need to remember the 95% who ARE playing by the rules.  They are the ones we are here for.

Thanks for the reminder Terry I have noticed some of those threads myself and wondered about them. Anytime anyone asks about a product anymore and I happen to use or own it, I try to check and see if its made or sold by a sponser before giving my two cents. I hate being used to give anyone a free ride.

:campfire:  Love this place for a reason

Keep up the excellent work, this site is a treasure and should be realized.

thank you

Thank you Terry.  I'm tired of reading some of the threads that you are talking about.  They are pretty transparent like they are trying to fool somebody.  Great site and we need support the sponsors that support it. dino

Terry you are under pressure from many fronts and we can just be thanksful for all the hard work you are called to make for us.it is right to protect and support our sponsors because they love and contribute to this site as well.This is a great place because there are much more good people than bad apple,thanks to the dayly controll of the moderators.

I've been around here for a few years now. The decisions made by 'management' are always spot on and for the good of the site.  The explanation above is not owed to any of us, but it's representative of the communication that is always put forth in good faith.  

Thanks again Terry/Rob/Admins for the top notch traditional playground in the cyber world.

Terry I greatly appreciate what you and the rest of the Tradgang staff do. Keep up the good work.

QuoteOriginally posted by cacciatore:
Terry you are under pressure from many fronts and we can just be thanksful for all the hard work you are called to make for us.it is right to protect and support our sponsors because they love and contribute to this site as well.This is a great place because there are much more good people than bad apple,thanks to the dayly controll of the moderators.

THANK YOU!!!! Also...you have not idea how many times I' been emailed and read 'elsewhere'....'Its all about the money'....what folks don't know is I turn AWAY money, LOTS of money....the tail will NOT wag the dog here.  The Sponsorship is all about paying for the site.  I wish I could still write one check a year and go on...oh how easy that was.  Now I have billing, collecting, banner changes and file a tax return.  It turned 'into' a business that I did not intend in the Begin.  But, that is all part of it if we are going to have Trad Gang.  I'm NOT complaining!!!

I appreciate the folks that Sponsor Trad Gang Greatly as we would not be able to have this site without them.  And out of respect, I will protect them from folks that just walk in here thinking the will get free promotion of their good.  And, you would not believe the 'tricks' folks pull...all in the name of 'helping trad archery'...and I've even been threatened by vendors because they didn't fit the criteria.  I do NOT want Bass Pro Shop banners here at Trad Gang....I want folks that have their hearts and soul poured into our lifestyle sponsoring the site....they scratch our back, we scratch theirs.

What you hear 'elsewhere' is only 'their side' of the story....email me if you want to hear the other side.

Someone just emailed me the other day and said they would not visit Trad Gang if I didn't allow a certain vendor to be talked about.  Guess what, we still wont let that vendor be talked about due to his actions here....even if he offered to pay.

I also have heard 'it don't cost that much to run a site'.  This claim is made by folks that do NOT have a site this large, and have no CLUE how much time it takes to keep everything in order.  If Rob DiStefano was paid what he's really worth, or for the time he puts in, we would have to TRIPLE the sponsorship fee....btw, which has remained the same amount since we started sponsorships back in 2005.  Rob has don't more that most realize or even can imagine!!!

But I repeat, the tail will not wag the dog.  Trad Gang will not exist before I bow down to certain folks and their demands.  I have taken a beating 'elsewhere' for that, but I don't care.  Trad Gang is going to stay with its original mission statement as long as I own it.  

And no....it aint for sale.          ;)

Good job Terry! And thank you for the site.

Thanks for the great site Terry.

doug77

Thanks for keeping Trad Gang just like it is. We appreciate it!

Thanks Terry and all moderators for being our guards so we can enjoy this greate place!!  :campfire:

You guys have to deal with these !"/$%?&*(...
thanks to you and your hard work   :thumbsup:     :campfire:

Way to go Terry....and Thank You!!!

THANK YOU TERRY and MODERATOR'S          

I will follow you all the way!!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :clapper:    :clapper:

Those that complain the most are usually the ones that do the least. Thanks for all the time you guys put in to run this site. Your rules will always be followed by me; no complaints. Please keep up the good work.

Terry thanks to you and the rest of the admin, and mods for all the effort and hard work you all do for us and the site. It's a real pleasure being here.

Thanks,
Dale.

Thats why I come to this site almost everyday, alot of hard work is done to do something right, thats why I love tradgang

Thanx: We don't enjoy the whiners anymore than you do.
Larry