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Title: Shooting left?
Post by: ranger 3 on April 24, 2011, 12:38:00 PM
I am consistently shooting. I know my arrows aren't over spined. I am shooting a Big Jim Buffalo bow 46@28 I draw 27" 15/35 GT cut to 28 3/4 with a 150 point. I shoot 2/5" left at 20 yrds.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: Bowmania on April 24, 2011, 12:53:00 PM
What's the deflection on a GT?  Bet if you put on a 300 gr tip you'd shoot right.

Bowmania
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: 59Alaskan on April 24, 2011, 01:47:00 PM
What is your strike plate material?  You may want to try a softer strike plate material that has some give.  It won't push the arrow left.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: Hud on April 24, 2011, 01:50:00 PM
Normally, if arrows are left, move the rest in. Move it in the direction you want the arrow to go. If the nock is low, raise it. If higher, lower it. If left, move it right or reduce the thickness.

But before taking the rest off, try building it out first and see if it causes them to move further left or not. Most of the time I will  use a vinyl black electrician tape which is much thicker than the standard tape. It might take few tries, but I think you will find a point where they are shooting where you are looking.

If that does not solve the problem, add weight to the tip (replace 150 with 175 or 200 gr). I suspect, bow is not center shot, but do not know. Your options are to add, or subtract from the rest thickness, and/or adding or subtracting weight. If nothing work, then it is time to try a different spine arrow.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: stabow on April 24, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
Aim a little to the right. Sorry just had to say that.  :goldtooth: .....stabow
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: Bjorn on April 24, 2011, 01:54:00 PM
It is either tuning or form and that could cover a lot of ground. You could be tired, anchoring slightly different, not pushing with your bow arm, allowing left shoulder to collapse, getting older etc. I am assuming you are a rightie. You may have inadvertantly changed something;  brace, sideplate, string silencer position or type, tab, glove, bow. Maybe you made or bought a new string. Then again; why do you think you are not overspined?
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: BigJim on April 24, 2011, 01:54:00 PM
Ranger3, do you have a full length 3555? It would be worth a shot. That bow is cut to center and could require a touch more spine.
BigJim
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: ishoot4thrills on April 24, 2011, 01:56:00 PM
Assuming you're a RH shooter, try anchoring closer to your face, like really up tight against the side of your face. Sometimes I get to shooting left and that's usually because I'm anchoring out away from my face too far.

Or, you could be short drawing.

OF course I am assuming you just started shooting left with your current setup using those arrows. If you just started shooting those arrows and didn't have trouble before that, then you very well could be over spined.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: paperenginner on April 24, 2011, 02:22:00 PM
I agree with ishoot4thrills.  I get sloppy and short draw causing some left hits.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on April 24, 2011, 05:19:00 PM
Have a buddy with a similar draw shoot it with the same arrows. See what happens for him. gotta weed out the indian before it's a equipment issue.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: on April 24, 2011, 05:30:00 PM
i do that quite often, im not holding my bow arm , im dropping it at release and that causes this problem.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: Swamp Yankee on April 24, 2011, 05:48:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by stabow:
Aim a little to the right. Sorry just had to say that.    :goldtooth:   .....stabow
If the arrows are flying straight and you're not using a sight; that is the answer.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: Red Boar on April 24, 2011, 05:51:00 PM
I had the same problem...regardless of the bow or set-up. It wasn't a spine or anchor issue.   My arrows always ended up 6 to 8 inches left of where I thought I was aiming.  Check your eye dominance...I am left eye dominant.  Now I close my left eye and I hit where I am aiming and looking.  Problem solved.    :saywhat:
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: Spurs on April 24, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
Ok, I have fought the same thing with every bow that I have owned since I started shooting trad.  I would change arrows, points, lengths, fletch, and everything under the sun.  I finally realized that it was me.  My two main problems were not concentrating on the spot!!!.  It is very easy to do if your mind is clear, but if you had a bad day and the stress is high, then your shooting will most likely show it.  

I was also pushing the arrow towards the target, or letting the string hand forward.

Just a few things to remember.  Don't focus so much on the equipment, but rather the mechanics of properly executing the shot.  I still struggle from time to time, but know that it is improper form.  Back tension is key.

Terry Green finally got through my thick skull, and when I realized that it was possible that I wasn't shooting properly, I fixed the problem.

Re- asses yourself first, then tweak a little on your equipment.  Good Luck

Tom
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: Fisher Cat on April 24, 2011, 08:00:00 PM
Ranger 3,

I've been having the same problem since I went to a lighter draw weight.  At the lighter weight, I was having trouble getting a good release, so I switched from a glove to a tab.  This seemed to start the left shooting phenomenon (but better groups).  I also started hitting my lip with the string. Turning my head to the left more and working on my release helped, but I still do it once in a while.  It also seems like the more I focus on my form, the worse I shoot.  If I absolutely burn my eyes into the target, I'll hit it most of the time.  Sorry I don't have a good answer.  Hopefully you will find some useful information in this response somewhere. - John

P.S. How'd you choose your name?  I was in the 1/75th in 1983/1984
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: durp on April 24, 2011, 11:38:00 PM
if all the above doesn't work...try what i do when i start pushing em to the left...

i set up a 6" target surounded by rocks and then shoot my broadheads at it...it makes me really really concentrat hard and ill be dead center evry time...all you have to lose is many $$$'s
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: PrarrieDog on April 24, 2011, 11:42:00 PM
plucking the string upon release? Have someone watch you.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: goatkiller on April 27, 2011, 11:18:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ranger 3:
I am consistently shooting. I know my arrows aren't over spined. I am shooting a Big Jim Buffalo bow 46@28 I draw 27" 15/35 GT cut to 28 3/4 with a 150 point. I shoot 2/5" left at 20 yrds.
Consistant shooting is good.

You may be torqueing the bow, try holding the bow with just the thumb and pointing finger.

And draw the bow with three fingers under the arrow. Anchor with your pointing finger at the corner of your mouth. The cockfeather should just tickle the hairs of your right nostril. All of this will put the arrow moe in line with your dominant eye.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: bsv on April 28, 2011, 09:39:00 AM
I was having the same problem, same type bow different arrows.I changed my ancher slighty to move my eye more over the arrow,witch I learned on a thread.And BINGO it worked great.
Burt
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: kat on April 28, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
Gotta agree with many of the above posts as far as release and anchor.
From my experience; I shoot to the left fairly consistantly if I don't keep my anchor tight to my face. It leads to plucking the string.
Although fairly consistant; it is not where I am aiming, and not as consistant as a good anchor.
Sometimes basics and form is the answer.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: moththerlode on April 28, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
I have a Buffalo that was doing the same , turned out that the bow took quite a bit less spine than what I was used to compared to my other bows of lesser wt.
My Hummingbird takes more spine than my Shrew Model T , both have the same poundage.
Also I shoot with glasses , I have to watch my head position or I end up looking more out the left lens. This hooks em hard left like magic.
Also make sure you aren't pulling into your body in any way. this also hooks em left.
Title: Re: Shooting left?
Post by: Montanawidower on April 28, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
Check out Terry's form clock threads.  It could be shoulder alignment?  No amount of tinkering will solve that. (except for maybe looking to the right of what you want to hit.. ala stabow)   :)