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Title: broadhead cement
Post by: Beanbag on March 18, 2011, 10:42:00 PM
Guess this is going to sound a little neophyte but I've never used glue on broadheads.always screw ins. Just ordered some grizzlys' and not sure what I need to glue them on. Epoxy,ferrule cement, ??. what's the best to use. Thaks Jim G
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: GREASEMAN on March 18, 2011, 10:49:00 PM
Try the Hot Melt craft glue stick it works great!
Low cost too! You can buy the sticks at Walmart or craft stores cheap.It stays plyable when cold out and is easy to reheat for head removal.Standard hot melt glue is brittle when cold.

Just a freindly tip<
Chuck
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Stumpkiller on March 18, 2011, 10:55:00 PM
Watcha gluing them to?  For wood I've always used hot melt Ferr-L-Tite with good results.  Use alcohol or other solvent to clean the oil out if the point's ferrule first.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Beanbag on March 18, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Have that stuff, didn't think it was tough enough,need to give it a try Thks Jimg
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Beanbag on March 18, 2011, 10:57:00 PM
I'm gluing screw in steel adapters into the broadhead JG
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Reaper TN on March 19, 2011, 12:34:00 AM
I use Devcon 5 minute epoxy to attach my 125 grain Wensel Woodsmans to a 75 grain steel screw in adapter. Wal Mart, Home Depot etc.  Just a little heat from a propane torch on the steel adapter and they will come loose if you ever need to.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Grey Taylor on March 19, 2011, 01:35:00 AM
Epoxy here, too. I like not having to juggle hot points,  molten glue, and a flame.
Whatever you decide to use, the key to success is cleaning the internal taper perfectly before gluing.

Guy
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: stickem1 on March 19, 2011, 01:41:00 AM
I use ferr-l-tite for just about all arrow components except fletching.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: m midd on March 19, 2011, 04:11:00 AM
Ferr-l-tite for me too.. If you wanna change heads just heat it up and remove.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: ckanous on March 19, 2011, 06:55:00 AM
Another vote for Ferr-l-tite!!!
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: lpcjon2 on March 19, 2011, 06:57:00 AM
The yellow Ferr-l-tite can be a little brittle for me, I like the white ferrel cement for fishing rod tips. It works best for my gluing point needs.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on March 19, 2011, 06:59:00 AM
Ferrlite hot melt is good if you ever decide you want to change them out, or for any other components on the tip of your arrows that you may want to take off someday. If you intend to leave them on all the time without any possibility of taking them back off, then go with epoxy.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: americanhunter7 on March 19, 2011, 07:08:00 AM
Kimsha Qwik Stic hot melt. Great stuff doesn't get brittle easy to remove and clean up (if you happen to make a mess).
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 19, 2011, 07:10:00 AM
any form of hot melt adhesive will never be 100% secure under all conditions.  this doesn't mean it's bad, just that it does have limitations (no matter what the type of hot melt).

my choice of superior point adhesive is always quality slow set 30+ minute epoxy (not the 5 minute type, which is water resistant and not waterproof).  all epoxies can be undone with heat - not excessive high heat that will remove blade temper, just long and slow, and directed at the ferrule or screw-in point adapter.  

no matter what adhesive used, the ferrule must be cleaned out with a strong solvent.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Wheels2 on March 19, 2011, 07:42:00 AM
I have always wondered how you clean up a point to be re-used if you use epoxy and then break an arrow?  Especially if it is a broadhead
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: reddust on March 19, 2011, 08:18:00 AM
30 minute epoxy works best for me,I used to use the hot melt type but have had times when it did not hold.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: speedbump on March 19, 2011, 08:36:00 AM
I use epoxy as well, never had one come off even hitting bones etc. Only down side is it is a little more difficult to changeout the head as others already pointed out....lots of options for you to try.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: lpcjon2 on March 19, 2011, 08:38:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Wheels2:
I have always wondered how you clean up a point to be re-used if you use epoxy and then break an arrow?  Especially if it is a broadhead
.22 or .38 caliber wire bore brush for gun cleaning and a cordless drill. Put the brush in the drill chuck and have at it. A little solvent(acetone) will help break it up.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Beanbag on March 23, 2011, 11:32:00 AM
Great info,  I have used every glue mentioned here and even some others not mentioned, on other projects, at one time or another. I think I'll try a couple and see wich one I like best.I guess after the heads are in and out of the cold/rain/snow a few times is what makes the difference in glues. Thanks Jim G
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Wannabe1 on March 23, 2011, 01:11:00 PM
Gorilla glue. Works wonders and I don't worry about my heads coming off.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Bernie B. on March 23, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
Gorilla glue......now that sounds like a good idea, and it's available everywhere.  Sounds like a lot of people are now using epoxy.  I've used Ferr-l-tite only for over forty years and have never had a problem with it.  Lots of good ideas out there though.

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: EL Mejor on March 23, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
GORILLA GLUE,IS GOOD ALSO, BUT REMEMBER IT EXPANDS SO USE WITH CAUTION,,,
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: joe ashton on March 23, 2011, 02:28:00 PM
I use Gorrilla glue and swear by it... until you want to take that point off.  It will not come off!!

then you'll just swear.....
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Birdbow on April 01, 2011, 09:00:00 AM
I use Gorilla glue which is also heat reversible
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Steertalker on April 01, 2011, 09:05:00 AM
JB Weld
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Beanbag on April 01, 2011, 09:31:00 AM
For testing adapters and heads I picked up the yellow brown hot melt stick from Braveheart,works relly good for quick on quick off.Seems to be pretty tuff too.If it holds up I most likely will stick with it. Thanks for all the info, Jim G
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Coiloil37 on April 01, 2011, 11:02:00 AM
Insert iron.
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: amicus on April 01, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
I use goat tuff to glue my adapters to my 200 gr grizzlys. I put the bh in a vise with the open end facing out, of course. I take the adapter and and fix to my cordless drill. Make sure you clean out the bh's first, I use acetone with a q-tip. I glue up the adapter and as Im inserting to the bh im slowly spinning/drilling the adapter into the broadhead. When its completly inserted I hold it, very still, for a few seconds to allow the glue to dry and then release the broadhead from the vise. Now the broadhead with the adapter is on my drill and I can spin check it with my drill. Most of the time its perfectly alligned. When you slowly spin/drill the adapter into the broad head it usually alligns itself very well. If I need to redo I use a propane torch and heat the adapter until it can easly come out. This process has worked very well for me.

Good luck

Gilbert
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: WRV on April 01, 2011, 07:50:00 PM
Gorilla Glue
Title: Re: broadhead cement
Post by: Dean Lintz on April 02, 2011, 07:35:00 AM
I JB Welded my bh put them on the shafts that they are going to be shot on and spin balance them. I let them set tip down until dry. I use screw in inserts. If you keep bh matched to arrow the heads can be removed and put back in and stay balanced.