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Title: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: jtwalsh62 on March 15, 2011, 02:26:00 PM
I want to hunt Sitka Blacktail ,thinking about Prince of Wales but I am open Planning the trip for 2012
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: wapiti792 on March 15, 2011, 02:59:00 PM
Man I am all ears on this one! I have it on my bucket list but am planned up through 2011. There was a thread floating around about some guys doing a hunt there was a fellow local Tradganger. Looks like big fun!
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on March 15, 2011, 03:27:00 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm....I might like to go. Are either of you guys smokers?
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Post by: snag on March 15, 2011, 03:27:00 PM
I'm hoping to pull this off also. It would have to be 2013 though.
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Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 15, 2011, 03:29:00 PM
I'd like to go along. Non-smoker here.
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Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 15, 2011, 03:39:00 PM
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: wapiti792 on March 15, 2011, 04:29:00 PM
Well Biggie for you I will not smoke any pork chops or boston butts a week before I go unless you want me to bring us some snacks   :bigsmyl:  

No sir, no smoking here. Pork, tobacco or other. I have wanted to do one of those "boat" hunts that I have read about or find a local that is sympathetic to the cause that will let me trade 'em a whitetail hunt here.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: jtwalsh62 on March 15, 2011, 04:29:00 PM
I dont smoke yet 'dont think I will start. And yes I have been working on this for about a Month now this year is book so will be 2012 found some cabins . It is looking like it will be about $2000 for the trip that is plane ticket, tags ,cabin and truck rental. Will lock this in by mid summer
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: Izzy on March 15, 2011, 04:39:00 PM
For that price or thereabouts up or down Id be game for 2012. I could do 7 days for sure.
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Post by: beauhunter on March 15, 2011, 04:51:00 PM
Trade for a whitail hunt huh? What else you guys got? I could be interested.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: snag on March 15, 2011, 05:24:00 PM
Who are you thinking of booking with? I spoke with a guy who lives in Kenai, Al that is a guide for sitka blacktails on Kodiak and I believe he does POW also. I think he is on this site from time to time. Can't find his info. now....@#$!! Maybe he'll chime in.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: cacciatore on March 15, 2011, 05:26:00 PM
beauhunter,maybe a brand new TT or a Tip?
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: Sean B on March 15, 2011, 05:39:00 PM
Myself and a buddy are planning a trip there for 2012.
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Post by: Sean B on March 15, 2011, 05:40:00 PM
Haven't set an exact date, but we can coordinate.
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Post by: Shedrock on March 15, 2011, 05:45:00 PM
I'm trying to get a trip for 2012 also. Hope it works out. I would love to hunt those deer!
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Post by: Adirondackman on March 15, 2011, 08:21:00 PM
I'm interested. I was going to go this year but decided to do another Elk hunt with a few other Trad Gang members. I have been looking at another area but I'm open to any of the areas suggested.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: beauhunter on March 16, 2011, 12:39:00 AM
That does sound good cacciator. I'm not sure how legal it is though. I would possibly be interested in going hunting up here with a couple guys, and maybe in the future, heading into someone else's neck of the woods to Chase something new .
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Post by: pow-bow on March 16, 2011, 01:06:00 AM
Ahhh yes the elusive Sitka Blacktails.  Lots of work lots of fun.  Nothing like SE Alaska alpine.  Looking forward to this year chasing with all homemade equipment.  Anyone out there thinking about 2011?  If your POW bound give me a shout, love to meet some fellow tradgangers and you're welcome to tune up on my 3D course.  Maybe we can hook up on a hike or two.

Shedrock 2012 still looking good.

Beau you gotta come over and shoot a round or two if you're in the neighborhood.

Only smoking I do is salmon, sausage and jerky.  Dang hills are to steep here for any other kind of smoking.

If you guys have any questions on Sitkas or hunting SE lets here em.  I'm happy to help out.
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Post by: BoonRoto on March 16, 2011, 01:21:00 AM
I wish!
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Post by: AkDan on March 16, 2011, 05:40:00 AM
just found out I have have my 8 day break in november.....looks like my blacktail trip is going to happen this year for sho!
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 16, 2011, 07:39:00 AM
Hey Walsh. You thinking DIY or guided? Don't need a guide for deer up there. Just curious as that would change the price a good bit, I would imagine. I'm definitely interested though either way. Looks like $85 for non res license and $150 for deer tag. Here's a random guide's rates off his website.

(3 days Guided Saltwater/ 4 days Self-Guided Freshwater Fishing or Hunting)
Includes:
Fully furnished suite that sleeps up to 4 people
Two bedrooms (2 twin beds each)
Full kitchen with all utensils, etc.
1 Crew cab truck with a canopy (unlimited mileage)
A gas barbecue grill
All fish processing, vacuum sealing, and packaging included (saltwater fishing only)
All gear and tackle included (for saltwater fishing only)
$7,200 ($1,800 per person if you have 4 people) includes local tax.
1 unit for 7 days / 6 nights Sunday-Saturday
(3 days Saltwater Fishing / 4 days Self-Guided Freshwater Fishing, Hunting, or Sightseeing.)

Self-Guided Package
(Hunting, Fishing and Sightseeing)
Includes:
Fully furnished suite that sleeps up to 4 people
Two bedrooms (2 twin beds each)
Full kitchen with all utensils, etc.
1 Crew cab truck with a canopy (unlimited mileage)
A gas barbecue grill
Meat preparation facility provided with separate freezers for each unit.
Fish and meat processing, vacuum sealing, and packaging is do-it-yourself
$4,000 ($1,000 per person with 4 people) includes local tax.

Not Included in Packages:
-Alaska Fishing and Hunting Licenses and tags
-Food and Beverage (all food can be purchased at the local grocery store)
-Gratuities
-Air or ferry transportation
-Gas for vehicle
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 16, 2011, 07:41:00 AM
I know the prices vary but this is the only one I could pull up at work. They like to block everything here. Military base.....
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: BANNOCK-.PT on March 16, 2011, 08:05:00 AM
Great info. I would be interested for 2012 as I am already comitted on a few hunts this year. Anyone else want to seriously get the ball rolling for 2012 and we can start planning this adventure?
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: akdd on March 16, 2011, 08:37:00 AM
I went to Kodiak a couple of years ago and was real pleased with the service that I got here. It was unguided they provided all meals and would take us out in the boat every morning and drop us off and pick us up in the evening. We went in late November early Dec.. When I do it again I plan on going earlier in November when the days are a little longer.  
http://www.kodiak-charters.com/index.html
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: wapiti792 on March 16, 2011, 08:45:00 AM
I am interested in 2012. I am a DIY kind of guy but would not have a problem doing some sort of cabin based hunt especially if it is a cheap Forrest Service cabin with good hunting nearby. Getting normal gear into the backcountry into the lower 48 is tough when you fly. I would imagine doing that in Alaska would be tougher.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: beauhunter on March 16, 2011, 03:17:00 PM
All home made gear huh rich, where's the man-law pics??? I'll have to make it a point to get together with you sometime when I'm over so we can shoot.

I would be down to do a tradgang hunt of sorts, but I would like to keep the roster down to less than a crowd. I'd be more interested in a late season hunt too, rather than an alpine trip if there's more than just a few other guys.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 16, 2011, 05:22:00 PM
2012 Sitka Blacktail deer hunt info POW Island
Season - 1 August to 31 December
License info
Nonres Hunting License   $85
Deer Tag      $150 (Duplicates-$5/each)

Travel info
-Fly NC to Ketchikan.$600-$700
-Take Inter-Island Ferry from Ketchikan to Hollis, POW Departs Ketchikan at 3:30 pm and arrives in Hollis at 6:30 pm.   $37 -1/way
-Pickup rental truck in Hollis @ a rate of....          $100/ day
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 16, 2011, 05:25:00 PM
A couple ideas I come up with. Just some ideas. Of course they will change somewhat with the different addresses to leave from.


2012 Sitka Blacktail deer hunt info POW Island
Season - 1 August to 31 December
License info
Nonres Hunting License   $85
Deer Tag      $150 (Duplicates-$5/each)

Travel info
-Fly NC to Ketchikan.   $600-$700
-Take Inter-Island Ferry from Ketchikan to Hollis, POW Departs Ketchikan at 3:30 pm and arrives in Hollis at 6:30 pm.   
                       $37 -1/way
-Pickup rental truck in Hollis @ a rate of....                 $100/ day
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: beauhunter on March 16, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
Season; Aug 16th-December 31st.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 16, 2011, 05:45:00 PM
According to this site, the season is 1 Aug to 31 Dec.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/regulations/wildliferegulations/pdfs/gmu2.pdf

Unless it will change next year.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: beauhunter on March 16, 2011, 11:41:00 PM
According to early explorers, the world was flat.
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Post by: Zbearclaw on March 17, 2011, 01:46:00 AM
Dad and I hunted Kodiak this past august.  We will possibly be in POW for bears and deer in 2012.

I wouldn't go though if you are thinking it is a one time deal.  I'd go back every year if I had to sell a kidney cept have a baby coming end of May.

Live now, dreams don't get you much when you are gone...
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 17, 2011, 07:38:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by beauhunter:
According to early explorers, the world was flat.
I would like to know the correct season. If the website has it wrong, please correct us (with proof, please) so we will know the correct dates. Thanks.
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Post by: IndianaBowman on March 17, 2011, 12:04:00 PM
If you are going to POW be in shape if you are going early in the season. The deer will be up in the alpine and it isn't easy getting there. I'm sure POW BOW can give you all the details on that. I've hunted POW a couple times and love it. Be prepared to get rained on. It is one of the wettest places on earth!
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Post by: pow-bow on March 17, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
As far as the season dates go it's like this.
Rural residents units 1A, 2 and 3 July 24-Dec 31

The general season for non-rural resident both Ak residents and others Aug 1-Dec 31

HOWEVER

There is a large portion of the Island that is closed to non-rural residents from Aug 1 - Aug 15. The line runs roughly through the center of the island with the Northern half the closed section.  Basically the roaded portion of the Island is closed until Aug 16th.

This information is found in the Federal Subsistance regs and is referenced in the sate regs by the little star in the deer season section.

"Federal public lands on Prince of Wales Island, excluding the southeast portion (land south of the
West Arm of Cholmondeley Sound draining into
Cholmondeley Sound or draining eastward into
Clarence Strait), are closed to hunting of deer from Aug. 1–Aug. 15, except by Federally qualified subsistence users hunting under these regulations."
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 17, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
That's what I needed. Thanks Rich. If this works out, we will have to meet up. It's been awhile since I've talked to ya.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: snag on March 17, 2011, 02:42:00 PM
Is there a way of looking at hunter success, deer populations, etc? How has the last winter and this winter effected the deer population?
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Post by: Steve H. on March 17, 2011, 04:30:00 PM
Maybe.  Rich, akdan and I may come down and pester Chuck "White Death" H.  Would be fun to set up a big comfy tent camp somewhere.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: pow-bow on March 17, 2011, 09:53:00 PM
Steve I'm down for that,  Pretty much do that every year.

The way I measure hunter success are the white packages in the freezer and the backstraps on the grill.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: beauhunter on March 18, 2011, 12:47:00 AM
I would be down for an Alaskan tradgang POW bowhunt.
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Post by: boznarras on March 19, 2011, 12:16:00 AM
This is interesting...
If this progresses, please say if you guys are looking for another hand, I am just over in Wrangell.
I see the IFA might get back on the northern route. Or, I do have a 32ft cruiser with separate shore boat that can come in handy...if that works for the plan.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: AkDan on March 20, 2011, 04:54:00 AM
I am in Stevo!  Got the 8 days off we were talking about...going to ask the boss about the sept leave tonight, will call ya after church.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on March 22, 2011, 01:42:00 PM
To you Alaskans, what is the best area on the island to hunt the deer? Are they on the whole island? It looks like it's gonna be cheaper to go to Hollis. Most of the lodges appear to be in or around Thorne Bay. Any pointers? Thanks.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: Bowwild on July 10, 2015, 05:57:00 PM
I've been working on a trip for 2016 for several days now. I've talked to local outfitter, AK FW, and some a couple of teachers.

Curious if this trip came about and what folks think about 3rd week of September?  We are going to apply for bear as well.
Title: Re: anyone plan to hunt Sitka Blacktail 2012
Post by: chinook907 on July 10, 2015, 07:22:00 PM
Roy,

3rd week of Sept is a good time for deer on Kodiak.

I'm sure you know but if you draw a Fall Kodiak brown bear tag the season doesn't open until late October, and as a non-res you have to hunt with a guide.

Too bad you couldn't make it this fall.  I was over there for a week doing other things about a month ago and with a couple mild winters in a row, there were deer all over.

Did you talk with J.C in Kodiak ?