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Title: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: joe skipp on March 12, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
Can ya help me win this argument....A picture would help. I remember Jack Howard expoxing injector razor blades to his broadheads.

I say he used Bodkins...the "other" guy sez MA3. Please help settle this...Thanks
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Terry Green on March 12, 2011, 08:10:00 PM
Joe....I have the kit here...it was 4 blades....at least the ones I have are.

Not sure if that helps...but I have one complete from Jack...and several he pre-ground ready to be glued I can post of pic of if you like.

T
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Charlie Lamb on March 12, 2011, 08:48:00 PM
You may both be right!! Jack was forced to use several different brands of broadheads over the years do to businesses failing and such.

I do know he preferred long and lean as far as design goes. At one point he was using the Black Copperhead Slicer (4 blade). He really liked one of the cookie cutter type heads (maybe the Traileze). He removed the cutting ring.

I have a Woodsman that Jack glued blades to. Shot a few critters with one just like it that I made up....wicked!! The Woodsman wasn't a "great" platform for his blades due to the vents.

He may have used injector blades (you realize none of the young guys know what those are?), but he supplied "Pal" single edge blades with the kit that he sold.

Here's a few pics of critters I used the modified Woodsman on.
I was very impressed by the pile of lung blood on the doe.
   (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/Kinslowfarmdoe04R.jpg)     (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/Carnagelunghit.jpg)

This hog didn't go far but blood trail was poor due to shot angle. Arrow backed out a little.
   (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/2004boar.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: zipper bowss on March 12, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
Can anyone help a "PUP" out with a picture?I'm a slow learner and pictures usualy help.   :D  
Bill
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Charlie Lamb on March 12, 2011, 09:06:00 PM
Bill,

I'll try to put one up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: zipper bowss on March 12, 2011, 09:10:00 PM
Thanks Charie.If you have a picture that pops up from the page.That is my prefered reading method.  :biglaugh:  
Bill
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Tom Mussatto on March 12, 2011, 10:38:00 PM
I imagine Jack experimented with different heads for glueing on blades but he actually manufacturered his own for sale, as well as pre-cut blades and clamps for assembling.

 (http://tmuss.tripod.com/001.jpg)


 (http://tmuss.tripod.com/002.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: joe skipp on March 12, 2011, 11:23:00 PM
I didn't know he offered a 4 blade, knew of the 3 blade head because I had a few conversations with Jack about shooting cock feather in. Thank you everyone for the info. I'm still kicking myself for selling my Jet back in '94.   :readit:    "[dntthnk]"
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: jarhead_hunter on March 12, 2011, 11:27:00 PM
In the early to mid-1970's I was part of a group of bowhunters who used to expoxy injector type razor blades to MA-3 broadheads.

It seemed to be a common practice at that time.

Charles.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: frassettor on March 13, 2011, 07:26:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Charlie Lamb:
[QB] (you realize none of the young guys know what those are


 :dunno:    :dunno:    :D   Sounds neat though
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Charlie Lamb on March 13, 2011, 08:33:00 AM
Tom... Good to see you here!! Great pics of Jack's broadheads and system. Guess I had forgotten those.

Jack always said that you should never lose an animal hit with his razor blade head.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: snow leopard on March 13, 2011, 08:42:00 AM
i still have a schick injector razor that i use. have to get blades for it off amazon; can't find them anywhere else!!
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: zipper bowss on March 13, 2011, 08:45:00 AM
A very good friend,used to have a huge broadhead collection.I knew there was a broadhead designed to take these blades.I did not know that other existing broadheads were modified to take razor blades.A good bit of info.!Thanks for the picture.Even if it did not pop up.  :D  
Bill
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: ranger 3 on March 13, 2011, 08:52:00 AM
I finally through mine away because I couldn't find the injectors any more.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Doc Nock on March 13, 2011, 09:35:00 AM
I just bought a ton off the internet for some double edge injector style for "cutters" we got for plastic film.

I think I got a 100 for around $10. Do a google search!
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Craig Schoneberg on March 13, 2011, 09:48:00 AM
Made and used them for several years.  Two friends and I used High Precision 3 blade heads and ground them down - bringing them back to size with the razor blades.  I later used the 4 blade Copperhead.  We didn't use injector blades, but single edge razor blades - the really old style - but they were heavier and stronger than the injector blades. Using sheet metal pliers we would place the blade at an angle (like shown in Tom's pic) then strike the portion protruding on the garage floor - snapping the blade.  How we never got a piece of steel in the eye I'll never know.  Once the blades were cleaned a light coat of PlioBond was applied to the head and blade they were clamped with binder clamps and placed in the oven - set on low - for a couple hours.  This was to cure the glue.  A lot of work, but still probably the most deadly head I've ever used.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: JimB on March 13, 2011, 10:35:00 AM
Jack also sold the 003 head in the early '70's.I sold some with several packs of blades,about a year ago.These three blades had about a 1/2" pocket at the rear of each blade for the razor blade.The blades came in a long stick of,I think,6 which was scored and you snapped off the individual blades and installed them in the pocket of the main blade.I've looked but I evidently lost my pictures of them.Anybody have a picture?

Amongst my junk,there are still a few pieces of razor blades cut to fit on 3 blades as per Jack's instructions.

The "Little Shaver" 2 blade that took the injector blades was around before that but I think Jack liked multiple blades.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: joe skipp on March 13, 2011, 12:16:00 PM
Jim Dougherty had the 003 broadheads. 3 blade head with small pockets to accept the razors. I tried some but could never get them to fly plus trying to sharpen the front end was a bear.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Terry Green on March 13, 2011, 08:41:00 PM
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/jackhbh1a.JPG)

  (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/jackhbh2a.JPG)

  (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/jackhbh3a.JPG)
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: SlowBowke on March 13, 2011, 08:53:00 PM
Shick injectors are still around....just not real often locally for me.

http://www.amazon.com/Schick-Injector-Blades-7-Count-Boxes/dp/B001E6VHUQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/175-2792175-3605561
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: dnovo on March 13, 2011, 09:10:00 PM
I actually have several of the "Lil Shaver" heads which were a 3 blade designed with a slot to accept the razor blades. You didn't have to glue them on. Must have been a later version.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Terry Green on March 13, 2011, 11:36:00 PM
I'm making a pheasant head now out of one of the base heads.  The plibond glue that came with mine must be old or I screwed up.....it didn't hold.....I'm now using jb weld....we'll see.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: joe skipp on March 14, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
Sure is nasty looking....one helluva head!
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Terry Green on March 14, 2011, 12:16:00 PM
Yes it is Joe...I am going to shoot a deer with that one this season...in honor of Jack.

T
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Stumpkiller on March 14, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by joe skipp:
Jim Dougherty had the 003 broadheads. 3 blade head with small pockets to accept the razors. I tried some but could never get them to fly plus trying to sharpen the front end was a bear.
Here's an image of the OO3 with blade sockets.  

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Broadheads/HPIM2092.jpg)
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: Terry Green on March 14, 2011, 01:24:00 PM
I'm making a pheasant head now out of one of the base heads.  The plibond glue that came with mine must be old or I screwed up.....it didn't hold.....I'm now using jb weld....we'll see.
Title: Re: Hey Mr Lamb.....
Post by: bigbadjon on March 14, 2011, 03:32:00 PM
If one of you has the Broadhead Identification 1871-1971 book it tells you the root broadheads modified by Jack Howard.