To get my arrows a bit heavier I need to know what the inserts versu weighted tubes for arrow...performance the same as far as having a "tuned" arrow?
I prefer brass inserts, they are epoxied in.
I have messed with all the usual suspects to increase carbon arrow weight. Have come to the conclusion it is better to add weight to the front than add extra accoutrements that do not serve any vital arrow component function, except to add weight.
I'm thinking screw in brass for goldtip arrows?
will 175 grain be to heavy on the end of goldtip 5575? would actually like to go out to 200 grains
Just know that changing front end weight changes the dynamic spine of the arrow.More front end weight weakens it,less weight stiffens it.200 is not too much but you need to tune your setup and let it tell you how much weight up front you need.
Go to bowmaker.net and read and follow the tuning information.It is very good.
i use both in my arrows. 100gr brass insert and a 3 gpp wieght tube. changing to a heavier end wieght willl weaken the dynamic spine of the arrow
I shoot some GT 55/75 with 275g. up front. Do whatever it takes to tune them, but I definately prefer brass inserts over wt. tubes.
I shoot GT 5575's with 50 grain brass insert and 200 grain broadheads/field points and they fly great out of several of my bows....Randy
I've used both and have better results with adding the weight to the front. I've tuned 3555's with 325 grains up front (however I do only draw 27"s and shoot 50ish pounds). 5575's are a stiff arrow so adding the weight to the front should work.
I use 100 grain brass inserts with 125gr BH in my GT 35/55's. 29" arrow, draw 28" on a fast 50#@28" Bob Lee recurve. What is your draw length & wt?
Weight in the tube is a shock absorber.... On the point is a sledge hammer.
I've done both and couldn't get rid of noise with the tubes. I also like the 100 extra up front. With my short draw length it's not much troube getting the arrows tuned.
Tried tubes, didn't work for me. Brass Inserts/ tip wt. have my arrows flyin' much better!
Bowbldr's analogy is great.
Keith
I agree with Bob Morrison :thumbsup:
Bill
i shoot 29" 55-75 @ 58# with 300 up front shoot very well
I like the brass inserts. Had some problems with tubes blowing out the nocks from time to time.
i think the brass inserts have a huge advantage over weight tubes. the higher foc will always shoot better (more forgiving) than the weight tube given you have the same weight arrow with the correct adjusted spine.
agree with RUTANDSTRUT ...FOC better as long as arrow tuned...since using these my penetration on game is fantastic....
if you like wood...woody weights are good.
Say no to tubes. Weight up front is the way to go, even if you have to retune.
400 grains up front for a total wt of 608 grains is by far my best tuned and hardest hitting design in that wt range - to date.
51@28 with shelf 1/8" past center.
Ihave had better luck using inserts and adapters for adding weight. I shoot 250 to 260 up front.
I have also had much better luck with brass inserts than tubes. The inserts stay put, the tubes never did.
I use 50 grain brass inserts on my GT 55/75 with 200gr muzzy phantoms and the penetration is fantastic. I also like the brass inserts since they are much stronger than the aluminum inserts and are tough to break.
Been using both 8gpi tubes with 50 or a 100grn brass inserts on both 350 carbon express and Gold tip 75-95. 28" arrows run between 650 and 750 grains. These hit with athority and keep that weight up for heavier bows.
I shoot GT 55/75 with 100gr brass inserts and 150gr points/broadheads. My arrows are cut at 30.5" and this tunes out real nice for my 50# longbow and my 50# recurve (both Sarrels bows). The 250gr up front put my FOC at 22.7% according to Stu's calculator. I am very happy with this setup and have taken lots of animals with it.
Bisch
I prefer brass inserts hands down, over tubes.