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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Tatorbones on March 05, 2011, 01:36:00 AM
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I'm trying to do some research on broadheads sense I'm trying to get into larger game then rabbits and squirrels.
So can I see the holes that your broadheads leave and what type of broadhead you use?
Please!!!!!!!
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Magnus I w/bleeder...
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/Magnushole.jpg)
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/magnusbuck1.jpg)
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/holeinheart.jpg)
Woodsman...
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/woodsman.jpg)
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Here's a Woodsman laying on top of the Magnus I...
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/magnuswoodsmanoverlay.jpg)
Woodsman carnage...
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/Carnagelunghit.jpg)
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Interesting thread, I'll be following
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Grizzly 190...
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/molson410/HeartShot.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/molson410/Passthru.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/molson410/ArrowGroups002.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/molson410/011.jpg)
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Snuffer 160 Vs Deer Shoulder...
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/molson410/006.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/molson410/024.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w49/molson410/023.jpg)
Looks like the Snuffer won!
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WW versus Wild Boar.
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/WWjob.jpg)
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0040.jpg)
Another Ww another boar.
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0034.jpg)
Same boar above.
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That magnus opens them up pretty good. Although the wensel isn't as wide that third blade helps out a lot.
What do yall feel about the sharks?
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Molson, I have had the 125 grain Snuffer "give out" but I always figured the 160 was built sturdy enough to never do that.
Great pics everyone!
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Zwickey 4 blade Eskalite.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/420W/100_0764.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/420W/IM000299.jpg)
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Originally posted by Bonebuster:
Molson, I have had the 125 grain Snuffer "give out" but I always figured the 160 was built sturdy enough to never do that.
Great pics everyone!
I've shot quite a few with 160 Snuffer's and that was the first time that ever happened. It's also the first time I ever hit the shoulder right at the joint like that and recovered the deer. That head did it's job!!
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150 Grizz El Grande. Pulled that head out of the ground and wiped the dirt off. It still shaved hair.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w266/MGERARDI_2007/2010doe.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/134sawney/antelope2010014.jpg)
175 grain VPA 3 blade
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I'm liking this thread
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125 grain Magnus Vented two blade:
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/2010RecurveBuck006.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/2010RecurveBuck005.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/2010RecurveBuck027.jpg)
125 grain TWO blade snuffer:
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Broadheads003.jpg)
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/2009BowKill-doe008.jpg)
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I have some pics of sharks but have trouble posting them. To me they make the biggest holes.LCH
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Snuffer 125gr. glue on.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/varmint101/101109028.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/varmint101/101109027.jpg)
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I won't tell you this is typical but this is the exit of a 190 Grizzly,KME sharpened.The arrow broke the humerus on entry and the broadhead was sticking out of the skin where this hole was.The shaft had snapped off,just behind the broadhead but still it created this much damage.The antelope had run 40 yds-hard.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/jbrandenburg/2009Antelope5MP013.jpg)
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WOW Those are some wicked broadheads guy's.
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There is good info in this thread, Thanks.
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Originally posted by JimB:
I won't tell you this is typical but this is the exit of a 190 Grizzly,KME sharpened.The arrow broke the humerus on entry and the broadhead was sticking out of the skin where this hole was.The shaft had snapped off,just behind the broadhead but still it created this much damage.The antelope had run 40 yds-hard.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/jbrandenburg/2009Antelope5MP013.jpg)
I do not have a picture of the hole my Grizzly 190 ElGrande left, but mine was sharpened by Ron@ KME and those are UNBELIEVABLE!
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Stinger 150 4 bld Buzzcut
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/bigbuckhntr/digpics1532.jpg)
A Deadhead
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/bigbuckhntr/CID__1013071802.jpg)
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Here's my hunting bud with an 8 I shot with a Stinger 125 2 bld
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/bigbuckhntr/CID__1110071540a.jpg)
A Magnus 125 2 bld
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/bigbuckhntr/digpics856.jpg)
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Nice job, Pete. Say hi to Joe for me.
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Dang boys, those are some pic's...good shooting too!
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GOOD ,THREAD,GOOD INFO,KEEP IT UP GUYS....
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Incredible holes! Loving the thread keep em coming.
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Woodsman..
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_1244.jpg)
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_1192.jpg)
Centaur...
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0640.jpg)
Snuffer..
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0158.jpg)
Simmons...
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/tigersharkbite073pt.jpg)
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/sharkbite.jpg)
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Nother Simmons from a buck my Buddy Chris Spikes shot..
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0655.jpg)
Zwickey No-Mercy two blade..
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_1094.jpg)
Magnus I
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/IMG_0013.jpg)
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/rcswampbucket/ossabawpiginfunnel.jpg)
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RC has killed more stuff then cancer.
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Simmons Landshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Resized_DSCN2593.jpg)
Simmons Interceptor
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/d29e7fa8.jpg)
Simmons Interceptor
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/94f38b77.jpg)
Simmons Landshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/a6b4039f.jpg)
Simmons Interceptor
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/678596de.jpg)
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Simmons Interceptor
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/60thHeart.jpg)
Simmons Interceptor
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/055.jpg)
Simmons Interceptor
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/009.jpg)
Simmons Interceptor
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/DSCN0495.jpg)
Simmons Interceptor (small nick at bottom right is from my knife blade)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/DSCN3273.jpg)
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Simmons Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/004.jpg)
Simmons Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/005.jpg)
Simmons Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/009.jpg)
Simmons Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/442e7a60.jpg)
Simmons Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/48803845.jpg)
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That is crazy those simmons are sick broadheads, I think I'm going to have to get some of those. When you put on a 2 blade broadhead do you have to put them on a certain way or do you just screw them on however.
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52# @ 28" old style Adcock longbow
525 gr gold tip arrows I believe
3 blade Thunderhead
18 yard shot, 50 yard recovery
200# KS buck
entry hole
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2i9gn07.jpg)
exit hole
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2e5l08i.jpg)
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You can follow the blood trail from the simmons pretty good too!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/ckinslow/DSC04753.jpg)
This was the cleaned up version of the hole. When I found her blood was all over her side.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/ckinslow/DSC04762.jpg)
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you know...I think Simmons is onto something as far as entry holes go. Seems that concave design really opens them up.
Very impressive!
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Magnus 125 screw in, two blade with bleeders
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk223/emtp505/2010bucks038.jpg)
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I don`t like gory movies, but I AM a bowhunter, and bloodletting is my goal. There are some dangerous dudes around here! :D :thumbsup:
Thanks for the pictures everyone.
I have been a fan of a wide two edge for decades.
The hide must stretch just a bit, because the holes always exceed the width of the head.
Those Simmons heads are ones I have yet to try.
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Man those simmons look like they open them up the most. wow
thanks to every one that posted and will post this was really cool to see.
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Simmons Interceptor
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/amb71/DSCN2775.jpg)
Simmons Treeshark
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/amb71/DSCN2844.jpg)
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Holy cow!! Those simmons holes look like hatchet wounds!!! Joe
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Nice pics gents
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I would have to say the biggest holes are from Simmons heads that is why I use them.LCH
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BTT for an awsome thread!!
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old bear razorhead with bleeder
(http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss60/eman614/deer004.jpg)
and another
(http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss60/eman614/Picture005.jpg)
and one more
(http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss60/eman614/bowpictures168.jpg)
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Those Simmons broadheads really do the job!
Is it easy to make them fly well?
Is it recommended to use 5" feathers to make them rotate well?
Margly
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I haven't shot every broadhead out there, but I've never come across anything that shot better than a Simmons.
I've shot them with three 4" feathers with no problems.
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good shot :) :)
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Simmons interceptor
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt308/BILLSINK/IMG_0351.jpg)
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I have shot them on wheel bows at 295fps with 2" vanes. They spin true and fly great out of my longbow. LCH
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Wow, great thread! Anybody shoot Zwicky?
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Here's a couple from a Phoenix.
Entrance
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/missstanna/Phoenix%20Broadhead/BTEntrance.jpg)
Exit
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/missstanna/Phoenix%20Broadhead/BTExit.jpg)
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Here are the results from a 125gr Magnus 2 blade. This is the entry side.
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc157/pactac/recurvedoe2.jpg)
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Razorcap
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/beachbowhunter/Alberta%20Bear%20Hunt/easter2006022.jpg)
Stinger 150 4blade
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/beachbowhunter/NM%20Elk%202008/IMG_0159.jpg)
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Dammage done by a Zwicky 135 gn. single bevel No Mercy [ note penetration stopped when the deer jumped at the shot shearing the shaft on the entry side with shoulder movement while reacting to the hit ] Pictures taken during skinng process. (http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx177/BrokenArrow-03/09%20Mule%20deer%20hunt/P1000963.jpg)
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One more picture showing broadhead just where I found it under the hide while skining.. I actually had to pull it on thru to get the heart and lungs out as the shaft had "squewred' the heart. (http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx177/BrokenArrow-03/09%20Mule%20deer%20hunt/P1000962.jpg)
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Those simmons shark photos are crazy!
Suprised there is not more talk about those heads. They seem real sturdy.
B
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There is a lot of good meat being wasterd with some of these monsters.
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Them Simmons look like there bad news on critters!!
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Originally posted by BoonRoto:
There is a lot of good meat being wasterd with some of these monsters.
Thats what I was thinking, too. I have been eyeing those Phoenix heads, though.
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The good meat is at the other end and imagine how much meat you would waste if you couldn't find the animal. My concern about the Simmons is how far they penetrate. They sure do leave a big hole but because of their size do they not penetrate as far? How hard are they to sharpen?
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I shoot rather light bows compared to many and never had an problem with shooting through deer or hogs with the big simmons.Most will be surprised when they see the arrow pop out the other side just like with there puny heads.:)This was with a 45lb bow short drawn to 22" to shoot behind the tree.I do prefer arrows around 500gns when shooting treesharks but bow weight is not something I concern myself with any more.
(http://funhunts.homestead.com/enter.jpg)
(http://funhunts.homestead.com/exit.jpg)
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Those things are brutal!!
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This is a Zwickey Delta, entry side. Exit was the same.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/longbow560/CopyofDSC00397b.jpg)
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Like Mr. Wrenn I don`t shoot heavy poundage. The Simmons design is proven and if you shoot 45lbs and up and 500 or more grains arrow weight I would not hesitate to use them on deer.The pic of the deer I killed with the big centuar is proof. The broadheads are near the same only the Centuar is 1 3/4 wide. I was shooting a 47@27 Widow longbow and 525 grain arrow.Arrow stuck in the dirt in the other side.The pig with the big snuffer sticking ouit of him was shot with a 48 @27 pronghorn longbow and 570 grain arrow. More than broadhead design it where you hit them. I`ve said it before...I`ve never lost an animal because of the broadhead I shot him with. The ones I`ve lost are because I made a bad shot.I have found animals that I may not have found using a smaller broadhead due to a lot of blood on the ground.Who knows.RC
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(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/004.jpg)
Penetration problems??? Where'd the dirt come from.
;) :D
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I think I see some simmons 190 grain interceptors in my future !
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Best Turkey broadhead made too.RC
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Looks like a good head to me. Great shot placement Charlie!
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That does it! I'm getting some Simmons right now. If I get an opportunity this year, I want it to count. Where I hunt here in Oregon, the brush can get pretty thick and I want a good blood trail.
Some of the best sellers of a product are the users! :D :thumbsup:
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Ok, just got off the 3R website and ordered some 135gr Tiger Sharks and some 32gr short BH adapters. Should give me around 167gr up front on my AD Trad Lites.
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Me too!
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Mine are on the way!! Great way to break them in on turkeys. I ordered direct from Dave at Simmons. Give him a call, he's a good guy!
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I'd love to use the TreeSharks but I can't get them as sharp as I'd like. I wish KME would come out with some convex shaped stones for their knife sharpener then I'd be all set! :D :thumbsup:
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I use the accu sharp and a steel and get mine plenty sharp. Somewhere on here Chris Spikes "landshark 160" shows how to make them razor sharp. I hunt with him and can tell you that barely sharp is not good enough for him. They will shave hairs with little pressure.I tend to like a more serrated file type sharp myself. Works for us both.RC
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I am impressed with the holes those Simmons heads leave. Gotta try em for myself. I don't have pics but the Zephyr Sasquatch leaves similar holes.
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I sharpen these with a Diamond jewelstick and gatco guide. The stick has a threaded rod that extends out the end. I start with course to get a burr on BOTH sides and then medium and fine and then leather strop. They will get scapel sharp. BILL
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Which way are you guys mounting your simmons. I usually go horizontal but these seemed to work better for me this year vertical. However they do hit my finger at full draw. Just wondering? Thanks. BILL
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Simmons Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/442e7a60.jpg)
I've gotta know the story behinde this wound! Never seen anything like it.
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Chris is off to work for the next few days but if I remember right the broadhead did not go in the chest cavity of the deer. It was quartering away and spun at the shot and the blade did that on the outside. The deer went a good ways but bleed good enough for Chris to find. He is color blind. He filmed this hunt along with 7 others that season. Most on public land and all with treesharks. He shot an 8pt through the spine under him and the treeshark came out the brisket..on film. Maybe when he gets off Monday he will post the vid.RC
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Robert, I got a chance to meet Chris at the ibo worlds last july. He's a nice guy and speaks highly of you too. good hunting . Don
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(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w31/clwalkerpic/IMG_0378.jpg)
Magnus Stingers with bleeder blades make a very good bloodtrails. Most of all shoot nice groups in the wind.
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I GUESS EVEN IF U USE A REGULAR KITCHEN KNIFE SHARPENER,IT WOOD BE GOOD ENOUGH...MAN THOSE BROADHEADS ARE DEADLY....I HAVE 2 IVE NEVER USED, BUT I GUESS THAT ON MY NEXT HOG HUNT THEY'LL BE IN MY QUIVER,THATS FOR SURE....WOW
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If its good enough for RC, its good enough for me.
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300+ pound sow at Ray's Hog Haven - 4 Blade Zwickey Delta...
(http://tradgang.com/tg/hogs/sc4.jpg)
Entrance and exit......yeah...it passed through entire body.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/bhth1.jpg)
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Originally posted by RC:
Chris is off to work for the next few days but if I remember right the broadhead did not go in the chest cavity of the deer. It was quartering away and spun at the shot and the blade did that on the outside. The deer went a good ways but bleed good enough for Chris to find. He is color blind. He filmed this hunt along with 7 others that season. Most on public land and all with treesharks. He shot an 8pt through the spine under him and the treeshark came out the brisket..on film. Maybe when he gets off Monday he will post the vid.RC
Here's the video of the 8pt.
http://www.youtube.com/user/landshark160
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great Vid , i was with you looking dow !
a question to the Simmons specialist because i should admit my conversion inch system is broken ...
Did the Simmons interceptor are more wide as a El Grandé Grizzly ?
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kibok&ko, Simmons Interceptors are wider. I don't have any pictures handy either but as some have said already, Zephyr Sausquatchs leave about the same size hole as the Simmons and have a straight edge. Magnus I also makes a big hole and both can be had as a 4 blade!
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I love this thread. Alot of nice shot placement and holes out there.
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Originally posted by Terry Green:
Entrance and exit......yeah...it passed through entire body.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/bhth1.jpg)
:scared: :scared:
Jeez! How many pounds were you pullin' with the bow that shot that arrow through a 300lb hog?!
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HOLY SIMMONS BATMAN!!!!!!
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Excellent thread!
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Snuffers...
• (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/P1020345chuck.JPG)
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1 1/4" VPA Terminator...
• (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/P1050657.JPG)
• (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/P1050678.JPG)
• (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/P1050684.JPG)
• (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/P1050685.JPG)
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Thinking about picking up some treesharks...I like big broadheads and have abowyer whitetails now but like double bevel heads better......
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Originally posted by kibok&ko:
great Vid , i was with you looking dow !
a question to the Simmons specialist because i should admit my conversion inch system is broken ...
Did the Simmons interceptor are more wide as a El Grandé Grizzly ?
THANK YOU !
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I love this thread!!
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I have shot several deer with the Magnus 1's and a whole lot with the 160 landsharks, interceptors, treesharks, and tigersharks. The Simmons leave the biggest holes and I would also have to say better blood trails.
The Magnus heads are good though but that curve in the Simmon's blade makes a bigger hole.LCH
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250 gr Tree Shark Entrance
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj45/phelpsy17/P1013015.jpg)
Exit
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj45/phelpsy17/P1013016.jpg)
I love those Tree Sharks!!
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125 gr screw on Snuffer, hit a bit forward on an antelope
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/speedgoats/DSC01792.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/speedgoats/DSC01791.jpg)
Opposite side
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/speedgoats/DSC01787.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/speedgoats/DSC01638.jpg)
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Great thread!
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Hope I'm never on the recieving end of an arrow!
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btt for a great thread!!!
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Texas buck Jan.2 2011...
• (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/P1020910ncopynsolana.JPG)
Entrance...
• (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/P1020935ncopynsolana.JPG)
Exit(wiped clean from dragging)...
• (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/curt/P1020939ncopynsolana.JPG)
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i'm at work and can't see all the pictures.... the ones i can are really impressive!!!! best thread in a long time!
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Razorcap in....
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/RCentrance.jpg)
Razorcap out
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/RCexit.jpg)
Four blade Phantom in....
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/entrancehole.jpg)
Four blade Phantom out...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/Arrowworks/exithole.jpg)
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150 grain Razorcaps on an Elk
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6243/elk008.jpg)
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#1-160 Snuffer > cell phone pic.
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/1002102014.jpg)
#2-Wensel Woodsman > the off shoulder. shaft travelled from last rib on entrance and buried in far the shoulder
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/IMG_1020.jpg)
#3-125 Snuffer
Arrow's path:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/2009-8pt008.jpg)
Off shoulder:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/2009-8pt010.jpg)
Heart inbetween:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/2009-8pt003.jpg)
#4-125 Wensel Woodsman
Entrance:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/Pickles-10021.jpg)
Exit:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/Pickles-10022.jpg)
Lungs Between:
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss256/1onions/Pickles-10029.jpg)
chris <><
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TTT
excellent thread
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Old Pearson Deadhead!
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x196/robhood23/PA161710.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x196/robhood23/PA161709.jpg)
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After reading this thread a while back & seeing the damage the Simmons broad heads did I ordered 6 Tree Sharks. Hopefully get to put one through a bear this Friday!
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awesome thread i would love to see more photos
love the big holes!!!!!!!!!
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(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/bcurlis/California%20Fujifilm%20Sheephunter/DSCF0147-1.jpg)
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Very cool thread...the Simmons heads look impressive.
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Great thread, ttt
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Magnus 125 Stinger about a 100 pound hog, good blood trail, about 50 yd trail.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/bisleykid/Picture106-1.jpg)
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I have no pictures, just a story. Several years ago I shot only Grizzly 160's. I shot a doe one afternoon with a Grizzly tipped arrow from a selfbow. I watched the nock disappear into her chest. She spun around and ran off, I watched her and saw a flash of white about 50 yards out where she swapped ends as she died. I gathered up my stand and set about trailing her, there was little if any blood-no smears, small drops every 15 to 20 feet. It was getting dark so I went to where I last saw her. There was blood spray at that point, probably from her nose or mouth. I found the last 10" of arrow in the chest cavity, along with lots of blood. The exit wound had plugged with fat. Had I not seen her go down, I'm not sure I could have found her. From then on, I shot Magnus 1 four bades from selfbows, and Sniffer 160's from everything else. Haven't had an exit wound plug up since.
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Talk about getting me pumped up.....Sept 24 can't come fast enough.
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(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn339/JDCOWLES69/dryspellover020.jpg)Woodsmens elite in
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn339/JDCOWLES69/dryspellover019.jpg)elite out!
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Last critter I killed with a Treeshark. This is all day, every day. I have seen holes I could put 4 fingers in.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Hogs/4bb77d2f.jpg)
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Originally posted by kibok&ko:
Originally posted by kibok&ko:
great Vid , i was with you looking dow !
a question to the Simmons specialist because i should admit my conversion inch system is broken ...
Did the Simmons interceptor are more wide as a El Grandé Grizzly ?
THANK YOU ! [/b]
I think the simmons heads are a good bit wider than the Grizzly heads. Maybe one of the pros will see this now and confirm.
How about an answer fellas.Please.
Chuck
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A Simmons Interceptor is 1 9/16 inches wide(1.5625")or 39.6875 mm.
A Grizzly El Grande is 1 3/16 inches wide(1.1875")or 30.1625 mm.
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Thanks Chris, Nice job on this and the other thread. Simmons will be busy I bet.
Chuck
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Magnus II - two blade. Doe dropped in 40 yards.
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af200/mzirnsak/DoewithBow.jpg)
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Still goes to show a well placed SHARP broadhead is the key to fatal wounds, not who made them. Great pictures everybody!
Glenn
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Great thread
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I realized I have a few I can share
2 blade 125 gr Magnus
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-whtKaNACPpg/TptKgTzYlwI/AAAAAAAAC7U/FLaeOLLhdow/s800/IMG_0280.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-D7Swx8jcTQM/TptKdKsV1FI/AAAAAAAAC64/-NqIm2JG37k/s800/IMG-20111015-00103.jpg)
Another pig with a Magnus 2 blade 125 gr
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EIsT_ksxyPk/TptKinkyPXI/AAAAAAAAC7o/b-OdSEyx84g/s800/IMG_0293.jpg)
Magnus 4 blade Stinger 125 gr
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4jcCsHDdeYY/TpywgR0LDeI/AAAAAAAAC8M/9jT9aaj2YYQ/s800/IMG-20111016-00108.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4p2UuXUCLvE/TqcsTdaIddI/AAAAAAAAC4g/ZSM9thzn0Gc/s800/IMG_0327.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LuZxZQaZw3Y/TwkbXD7sWbI/AAAAAAAADAU/9eUyqmn6iDE/s800/IMG-20111001-00096.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-EiVCo_QjSJE/TwkbXaVfUAI/AAAAAAAADAg/1lbviu3JlJk/s800/IMG-20111001-00097.jpg)
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woodsman:
(http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr180/two4hooking/100_1939_1.jpg)
How a BH performs on the poor hits is important also. Bear Super Razorhead with bleeders on this shot through the rear:
(http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr180/two4hooking/100_0192.jpg)
Hit both femorals and found this blood trail, down in 35 yards!:
(http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr180/two4hooking/100_0189.jpg)
4 blade eclipse through the spine:
(http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr180/two4hooking/Picture011.jpg)
Another eclipse 4 blade:
(http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr180/two4hooking/deer10003.jpg)
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Man, what a great thread! I can't believe I missed this last year! How about some more pics guys?
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homemade super dooper, magnum blunts.
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/ozyclint/DSCF3160.jpg)
pine tree through the lungs of a pig.
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/ozyclint/IMG_1903.jpg)
water buff.
blackstump broadhead.
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/ozyclint/DSCF2749.jpg)
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/ozyclint/DSCF2754.jpg)
(http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/ozyclint/DSCF2756.jpg)
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(http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae69/arrow30_photos/gettindark.jpg)
zywickey no mercy.
(http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae69/arrow30_photos/027.jpg)
(http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae69/arrow30_photos/033.jpg)
zywickey no mercy 4 blade
(http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae69/arrow30_photos/054.jpg)
(http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae69/arrow30_photos/055.jpg)
(http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae69/arrow30_photos/056.jpg)
simmons treeshark
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200 grain Muzzy Phantom
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/ad2877/020.jpg)
160 grain Snuffer
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/ad2877/Picture120.jpg)
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1964 Bear Razor Head Got both lungs and the bottom of the heart.
(http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad298/doug7759/Doe8.jpg)
(http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad298/doug7759/Doe10.jpg)
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Man those Simmons broadheads are sick!
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Has any one used the Simons on game like moose or even buff
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(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc484/rastaman53/Snapbucket/AE532D71-orig.jpg)
2 blade silver flame 180 grain XL
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Awesome thread lot of good info on what heads do what and there is alot of good heads out there
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(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/rnorris/00820Ace20head.jpg)
Ace 200 grain head....this deer took a complete pass thru, continued feeding, never spooked, and laid down within 40 yards.
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only things like that happend to people with a last name like yours! JK. Id like to see it for myself someday. Awesome!!!!
Tommy
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Seems like there are a lot of good options as long as the broadhead is sharp and you send it through the boiler room.
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Glad someone pulled this one back up! I've got a few more to add from last season.
All Simmons TreeSharks...
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/040.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/a96d3efc.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/5c131671.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/9f2e1b27.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/49a0ccf0.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/c7a81593.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/aaf23e8e.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/478b874a.jpg)
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I am glad to see this thread come back!
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Wow what a hole I'm deffently getting me some Simmons
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Those Simmons are nuts
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A few pics of the turkey's I shot this spring with a TreeShark up front. The turkey's were side by side and the Shark took them both out in one shot.
First turkey entry-
(http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k567/snakebit40/IMAG0212.jpg)
Exit-
(http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k567/snakebit40/IMAG0211.jpg)
And the hole of his buddy that was beside him-
(http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k567/snakebit40/DSC00211.jpg)
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This is an awesome thread. I have to admit that the Simmons sure impress me with the massive holes and the way they open them up. I ordered some tree sharks myself to try this year and cant wait.
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I have been shooting Simmon's heads for a while these holes are the norm not the exception. I shot 2 gobblers this season with the treeshark the holes were big enough to put your hand and arm in.LCH
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another TreeShark blood bath.. sorry for the poor pic but this is one of several that fell to a treeshark last yr. the side that you are looking at is the exit side. the cut half way back towards by her gut is where she hit a tree right before she fell. the entrance was in the last rib on her left side(quartering away shot at 10 yds) and exited out her right shoulder as you can tell. this is how my bro in law (widowdoublelung) and I found her. needless to say i was fired up and almost floored by the amount of carnage these heads cause. Maybe this yr ill take more detailed pics. (http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg561/graybarkhunter/DSCF1122.jpg)
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A few more TreeShark victims. One thing to note is the absence of the "narrow slit" you are supposed to get with 2-blade heads. The TreeShark consistently produces sagging, football-shaped holes.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/586741aa.jpg)
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/4fc09ff5.jpg)
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/73d2c766.jpg
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I just couldn't help myself. Ordered some tiger sharks and adapters this evening.
Chris, you need commision for all the excess biz Simmons is getting b/c of your pics
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I have to agree! Those Simmons are wicked! I think I might have to try some for myself. How well do they take and hold an edge, and how are they for durability? Can you use them for multiple kills, or are they a one shot wonder?
Haven't seen many photos from the single bevel clan, or from the VPA's either. What gives?
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PHXarcher, treesharks hold up well. I killed three deer with the same broadhead last yr. just keep resharpening. Only reason it didn't kill more was bc I wanted to give his quiver-mates some work too. I have had one tip curl just slightly when I hit the shoulder ball n socket but I easily filed it down and it's ready to go
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Magnus 2 non-vented.
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af200/mzirnsak/DoewithBow.jpg)
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Originally posted by Landshark160:
[QB] A few more TreeShark victims. One thing to note is the absence of the "narrow slit" you are supposed to get with 2-blade heads. The TreeShark consistently produces sagging, football-shaped holes.
Chris, any progress on the new sharpening system you were working on?
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Originally posted by BWD:
Chris, any progress on the new sharpening system you were working on?
We're still prototyping, but are getting really close. Just making some final tweaks now.
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Originally posted by Landshark160:
Originally posted by BWD:
Chris, any progress on the new sharpening system you were working on?
We're still prototyping, but are getting really close. Just making some final tweaks now. [/b]
Well hurry up...I need one. :D
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Originally posted by BWD:
Originally posted by Landshark160:
Originally posted by BWD:
Chris, any progress on the new sharpening system you were working on?
We're still prototyping, but are getting really close. Just making some final tweaks now. [/b]
Well hurry up...I need one. :D [/b]
Yessir!
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Originally posted by Landshark160:
Originally posted by BWD:
Chris, any progress on the new sharpening system you were working on?
We're still prototyping, but are getting really close. Just making some final tweaks now. [/b]
Whats it look like and when's it gonna be available? Make a vid of you using it (even if its a prototype...) I would LOVE to see you work your magic....
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hey guys I'm not tryin to jack his project but in the mean time you can get them shavin sharp in no time with a KME jig...
just tryin to help
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=117908;p=1#000000
heres my tree shark pic
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/BigBadGablues/kills/100_4344.jpg)
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Anybody know if a tree shark will screw onto an AD trad hammerhead? Will the gap in blades fit over the collar?
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Originally posted by elkbreath:
Anybody know if a tree shark will screw onto an AD trad hammerhead? Will the gap in blades fit over the collar?
Don't know about a tree shark, but I have one screw in land shark, laying around here, that will screw on an easton 2213 aluminum with room to spare. Measuring with a dial caliper, the 2213 measures roughly .345" across. Would think the gap would be about the same for a tree shark.
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The gap on the TreeShark is close to a half inch. Don't have any AD shafts to try, but it will go on a 2512 aluminum with room left over.
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Do you have any integrity issues with the screw on interceptor? it seems like if might, but then it might bend but not break...
not too highjack the thread, back to the original topic;
Biggest Grizzly I could get
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/elkbreath/IMG_8094.jpg)
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Grizzly 190 Exit
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/deerhole.jpg)
Woodsman Elite
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/100_1764.jpg)
SilverFlame
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/Photo0020.jpg)
SilverFlame (http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu36/L82HUNT/01-13-08_0829.jpg)
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:campfire: God bless.
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I would like to try one of the Big Silver Flames but I would have to sell a bow to buy some.RC
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Here's a Simmons Tiger Shark hole from a bear last month. Blood trail was wicked!!
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo151/jackdog77/50d410f7.jpg)
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(http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a411/johnwhitten/DSC00048.jpg)
magnus 1 cliped the elbow it was covering the heart.
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RED is my FAVORITE color.
A wide two blade will NOT let you down...but those Simmons "hatchets" OBVIOUSLY stretch the hide a bit as they pass thru.
If you lean close to the screen, you can smell the fresh meat.
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Woodsman w/razor blades attached.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/Kinslowfarmdoe04R.jpg)
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/Carnagelunghit.jpg)
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Sir charlie, tell us how you do that.
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Dan... it's a variation of Jack Howard's method of preparing a broadhead.
Basically you break razor blades (the heavy kind used in box cutters) from nothing at one end of the edge to 3/8" at the other end.
Clean surface of the razor and the side of the broadhead blade with acetone. Coat with Plio-Bond contact cement. (you'll find as I did that this is THE adhesive to use)
Let the pieces dry and then put them together so leading end of the razor (small end) is below the broadhead edge and the wide end is above the edge about 1/8".
Clamp in place until glue is set.
Very effective and surprisingly tough.
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Love that Bow Charlie, is it a SunBear?
Any pics of your handy work on the bear head?
I am still impressed with the number Elkbreaths big grizzly did on that bull,peeled the hind right off! LOL
Some fantstic pics in this thread,
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Yeah charlie,
If you happen to have a pic I'd be interested.
Thanks
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Kinda like this Charlie?
Looks like a good way to get rid of the hiss AND add some more cutting dia..
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/imagesqtbnANd9GcRCQ7SHiM_jLEBfmPHqn.jpg)
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I like the idea. Seems like it would introduce some spin. Might be careful to make sure its helical same side as the fletching?
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I have not had a chance to try out a treeshark on a deer yet but I shot a turkey with one this spring and was amazed by the entrance hole. I could fit four fingers in it. Although I have been a die hard woodsman fan since they came out I will be trying the treeshark on deer this season.
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Zradix... that's it!! Dan... the bow is a Jack Howard Gamemaster Classic. Great bow!
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Charlie,
Why do you put the razors on??? Is the purpose to get a wider cutting surface???
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I only did that on a half dozen big game kills. I wanted to see what Jack Howard was talking about as regards the efficiency of the razor blades and killing game.
Jack claimed that no animal shot in the body cavity with a razor equipped broadhead would be lost and claimed to have never lost an animal he shot in a long career of bowhunting.
I only had short and profuse blood trails but was impressed by the difference in nature/consistency of the blood produced by lung hits.
In the second picture the bubbly blood was standing a good 6" high above the wound when I first approached the animal... I'd never seen that before.
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Thanks for the explanation, just couldn’t figure out why the regular blades weren’t enough unless you needed aw wider cutting surface.
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I keep coming back to this thread, so I thought I'd bump it up for any new 2012 pics. (especially the Simmons Carnage)
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here's a VPA from a few weeks ago.
I'm not stretching the skin here, just laying my hand next to it...
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx121/Zradix/Hunting%202012/SANY0072.jpg)
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(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/P1010351.jpg)
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Gotta luv those VPA 3 blades!!!
Rob, Is that a 1 1/4'er?
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Simmons Interceptor w/Pearson Switchblade bleeder.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/2012kennylease5.jpg)
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Yup Curt those be 1 1/4's.
I love them.
:thumbsup:
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Here is one took a pic of a couple weeks ago. This was a GK Silverflame XL on a little piggy.
This is the entrance hole:
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/10-18-12sowentrancewound.jpg)
This is the entrance hole on the bottom of the pic just behind the right front leg and the exit hole on the top just in front of the left front leg (along with collateral damage to the left front leg):
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/10-18-12sowentranceandexitwound.jpg)
I love my Silverflam XL's!
Bisch
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Originally posted by Rob W.:
Yup Curt those be 1 1/4's.
I love them.
:thumbsup:
My favorite all time broadhead!! Been using them almost exclusively for almost 3 seasons now. Only time I shoot something else, is for big hogs...and then it's the 1 1/8".
VPA 3 blades rock!!
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Simmons Tree Shark
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Iflytrout/DEER/Turkeybuck49-1.jpg)
Those snips are 8" long.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Iflytrout/DEER/Turkeybuck45w.jpg)
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Ace Standard
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oIAEwLgToCg/UI8fscgpA2I/AAAAAAAADeA/MqWOBcm6sro/s800/IMG_0926.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nRu2xznhqCU/UI8fscCDNkI/AAAAAAAADeE/6Ytd7xlnMdU/s800/IMG_0927.JPG)
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My left thigh a couple years ago, Zwickey Eskimo went in about 1/2" past the back of the head.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/DaveBulla/arrowscars002-1.jpg)
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Lol how did u do that Dave
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Woodsman entry:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/2008%20Doe/11-09-08_0830.jpg)
Zwickey Delta
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/buck09/IMG_18531.jpg)
Another Delta, severed the leg/thigh joint, cut the breastbone in half, stopped in off side wing. Oh, and the turkey died!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Turkey%20Spring%202011/018.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Turkey%20Spring%202011/022.jpg)
I like Deltas! :thumbsup:
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Ribtek 125 on Nutria...entrance hole shown.
(http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL285/1460516/24043253/404236740.jpg)
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Originally posted by Guru:
Originally posted by Rob W.:
Yup Curt those be 1 1/4's.
I love them.
:thumbsup:
My favorite all time broadhead!! Been using them almost exclusively for almost 3 seasons now. Only time I shoot something else, is for big hogs...and then it's the 1 1/8".
VPA 3 blades rock!! [/b]
Gotta love those VPA 3 blades I have been using the 1 1/8" 175 grain exclusively for two years now and have never considered another broadhead.
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Nothing extraordinary so far this year. Just standard size Treeshark holes.
Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/006_zps193e5717.jpg)
Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/014_zpsc3b15a45.jpg)
Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/007copy_zps09b9aa20.jpg)
Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/047copy_zps4574831c.jpg)
Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/025copy_zps7da4cc95.jpg)
Treeshark
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/Miscellaneous/Wounds/029copy_zpse82e3ab3.jpg)
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Lesson learned: Location, Location,, Location!
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Those Simmons are wicked!
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Awesome wounds. Some of those sharp angled entries really open them up.
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woodsman 150 elite (http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu144/bmw101/tradgang.jpg)
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one thing no matter the head that is shown here....keep them scary sharp on a reasonably weighted shaft and then shot placement.
Seem some very devastating holes from multiple brands and weights of head....and mysteriously nobody is saying it was only due to single vs double bevel or EFOC....just good shooting with solid accurate gear and reasonable distances.
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No trade points?
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This is a fun thread. Lets bring it back up one more time for this season's carnage, and our new members.
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maybe just me, but it seems we are giving fodder to anti hunters here. close up pics of wounds, probably not the best thing to post on the internet.
sorry if I offend, just hate to see us supply the pics for negative press.
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No offense but ducking and running is not why this site was built. Terry can correct me if I`m wrong. This is reality and I bet more than one has decided on what broadhead to try by looking at this thread.
Lots of sites for Antis to enjoy where no animals are taken. Here, we try enjoy the outdoors and do what was made into man from the beginning.Good hunting,..RC
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I understand what Hill Hunter and RC are saying.
Sometimes I catch myself worrying about what others are going to say to me when I tell them I hunt..ie..'should I post this pic of my first trad deer on facebook?".
In the end, I did post it.
because deep down and through and through, I agree with RC.
Hunting is legal, I'm not going to criminalize it just to be PC.
I hunt, I kill, I eat.... That's me.
There are 1000's of others like me.
And as twisted as it sounds..there is WAAAAYY too much $$$$ spent ( and made) on hunting in this country for it to become illegal.
if we're going to worry about our hunting rights we should focus on being ethical. And not hide it.
I believe one thing we should worry about is gun rights.
That is where it will start....if it ever does.
John
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Eclipse 145 grain with bear razorhead bleeders!
(http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr180/two4hooking/111312007.jpg)
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So, it looks like the bleeder modified Woodsman is kinda like making a 3 blade Simmons?
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Awesome thread!Really enjoyed seeing what the treeshark holes looked like.Wanted to see up close and personal,but got skunked this year.
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magnus1 (http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/cecilm_2008/IMG_0029-1.jpg)[IMG]
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Originally posted by RC:
No offense but ducking and running is not why this site was built. Terry can correct me if I`m wrong. This is reality and I bet more than one has decided on what broadhead to try by looking at this thread.
Lots of sites for Antis to enjoy where no animals are taken. Here, we try enjoy the outdoors and do what was made into man from the beginning.Good hunting,..RC
You bet!!
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Originally posted by Guru:
Originally posted by RC:
No offense but ducking and running is not why this site was built. Terry can correct me if I`m wrong. This is reality and I bet more than one has decided on what broadhead to try by looking at this thread.
Lots of sites for Antis to enjoy where no animals are taken. Here, we try enjoy the outdoors and do what was made into man from the beginning.Good hunting,..RC
You bet!! [/b]
X3 :thumbsup:
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Woodsman Head......KYArcher
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60-70 yd Blood Trail!
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Double post
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Spectacular thread! Very good info. Keep it coming guy's. Hope can contribute soon as I haven't got my first trad harvest yet!
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Heres four from this year.
This is a Simmons Interceptor hole!
(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hillbilly-kim/P1030628.jpg)
This ones a Simmons Treeshark vs whitetail doe
(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hillbilly-kim/P1030579.jpg)
This ones a Simmons Treeshark vs pronghorn
(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hillbilly-kim/P1030249.jpg)
Simmons treeshark vs. mt lion
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hillbilly-kim/P1020125.jpg
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4-blade Zwicky delta (http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k592/jet26photos/100_8592-1.jpg)
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Put some Simmons Treesharks on my Christmas wish list....gotta have some....wow!
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Yes those sharks are wicked!.....KYArcher
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Seeing a sharkbite in person makes believers!
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(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20121229_114005.jpg)
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I gotta get me some of them Simmons... That's a heck of a hole!
Jason
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TTT for the new guys.
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awesome thread, October can't come soon enough.
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I love rereading this thread!
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This is a great thread!
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160 grn simmons land shark!
(http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/biggamefish/P3160064640x480.jpg) (http://s801.photobucket.com/user/biggamefish/media/P3160064640x480.jpg.html)
She ran 5-6 yards and was done. If she ran farther a blind man could have followed the blood trail.
Hog Heaven may of 2013.
(http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy291/biggamefish/pigcarnage.jpg) (http://s801.photobucket.com/user/biggamefish/media/pigcarnage.jpg.html)
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Awesome thread.
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I love this thread. Thanks for bringing it back Chris. God bless.
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Do you Simmons users think a 40# recurve with a 450 grain arrow (head included) would penetrate well enough for whitetails?
Assume that the arrow is very well tuned!
Thanks for your thoughts. Great thread.
Sky chief.
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I shot three does with a 43# longbow shot through 2 of them hit the off side shoulder on the other one. I used a tigershark 475 grains. LCH
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what is your draw skychief?
I assume you're using carbon..so you're looking at screw ins.
a 1 1/8 cut 3 blade head has 1 11/16" of blade cutting surface.
There have been lots of deer taken with them out of similar weight bows.
The wide sharks are either 1 9/16" or the really big one is 2"
If you have an average draw length you're most likely using a 175 grain or lighter head.
All of the sharks of that weight are 1 9/16" or less.
So I'd say if you have an average draw you'd be fine.
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Great thread...I'm using the 175 tiger sharks for bear next month! Should not be a problem with BW PLIII 53@28 and 550 gr arrows. (I hope!!)
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165 grain Tree-Shark right through the offside shoulder. I did not get the giant hole some see with these heads, I think partly because of where it exited, partly because I shot from ground level at 8 yards away. This arrows was a Douglas Fir with 100 grain woodyweight and the treeshark. Total weight was around 860 grains.
(http://i.imgur.com/igLpN.jpg)
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Those Simmons are nasty. That's why I like'em.
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VPA 3 Blade 125
Entrance
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/julesv20/image_zps65becd6b.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/julesv20/media/image_zps65becd6b.jpg.html)
Entrance
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Exit
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All simmons tree shark carnage here
Exit
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Entrance
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z463/dlnwohio/2011-09-25_16-35-15_474.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/dlnwohio/media/2011-09-25_16-35-15_474.jpg.html)
Quarting away entrance
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z463/dlnwohio/2012-02-02_20-55-18_120.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/dlnwohio/media/2012-02-02_20-55-18_120.jpg.html)
Exit
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And this shot was quartering away and hit a branch about 10 foot Infront of the deer and deflected and grazed her back she ran about 40 yards and fell down. I went to her right away and she was still very much alive so to end the suffering I shot her again.
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z463/dlnwohio/2013-01-27_17-08-16_965.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/dlnwohio/media/2013-01-27_17-08-16_965.jpg.html)
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Man those sharks are wicked!
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:scared:
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Tower climber sent me some sharks a while back. I must say I accidentally cut myself more with those things more times than I ever did with anything else. They are wicked!
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Woodsman Elite 175....Very Effective!
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg575/Doug_Simon/broadhead-1.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Doug_Simon/media/broadhead-1.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg575/Doug_Simon/footcut20120729.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Doug_Simon/media/footcut20120729.jpg.html)
:banghead:
Kingsnake
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Kingsnake how the heck did you do that?
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dlnwohio Holy crap dude. It looks like you shot that doe with an axe!
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Yes Kingsnake, that pic definitely requires an explanation......and if it starts with...we had a couple of beers.........
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hahahah...OK.....Actually, no beers involved. Anyhow, I had just finished showing a "wheelie" friend my new recurve/arrow/broadhead combo. I FOOLISHLY leaned the arrow up against the end table and forgot about it.
Shortly thereafter, we were watching an old kung fu movie. My friend commented on the ridiculous sound effects. I....at 50 years of age...jumped up to emulate my fellow martial artists (complete with sound effects). Jump Left...Jump Right...RIGHT onto the leaning broadhead.
The quiver was less than six inches from the arrow. Why I didn't replace the arrow, I do not know. But I DO know what I will do next time
Kingsnake
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David Lange you're not in any recent video’s are you? That tiger striped arrow looks familiar.
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King snake I wish you had a video of that...
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Haha, Kung fu will get you every time!
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I can't believe I'm just looking at this thread. This is an awesome thread!
Here's a Simmons Tiger Shark exit wound on my first Trad kill 8 pointer
(http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/herndondt/4DCB0C41-DFED-4ACD-AD08-FC810A64CA15-3244-0000039429A21004.jpg)
Here's one of LCH's Tiger Shark entry wound
(http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/herndondt/0F6C4A95-0EB9-4A9C-A76C-18AEA6F0FF3C-3279-000001F336384E34.jpg)
I have more I need to find stay tuned!
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South ms bowhunter I was not in any recent videos to my knowledge. Haha those were just some woodies I burnt for elk season last year. What video are you thinking you saw them in if I may ask?
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Originally posted by Kingsnake:
Woodsman Elite 175....Very Effective!
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg575/Doug_Simon/broadhead-1.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Doug_Simon/media/broadhead-1.jpg.html)
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg575/Doug_Simon/footcut20120729.jpg) (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Doug_Simon/media/footcut20120729.jpg.html)
:banghead:
Kingsnake
I did the same thing except the top of my foot,,,, living in a small condo there wasn't much space so I used to sit in my bed and set my arrows up while watching TV,,, well 3-blade heads always have a blade sticking up and I left one in the bed,, well you know how you pull your feet up to get out of bed well I ran my foot right over the head.. I feel for that guy..
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Dave,
It was this one, your arrows reminded me of this guys...
http://vimeo.com/58661885
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Posting these for ole LCH. :thumbsup:
WARNING !!!! The following images are brought to by ... Simmons Sharks
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Big Jim 3 blades, for me the best ever!! I wish Big Jim will have another batch one day....
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC03104.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/DSC03104.jpg.html)
And " hero" side
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC03111.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/DSC03111.jpg.html)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC03113.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/DSC03113.jpg.html)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC03156.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/DSC03156.jpg.html)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/blesb.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/blesb.jpg.html)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/photo2-20.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/photo2-20.jpg.html)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/image_zpse5a75475.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/image_zpse5a75475.jpg.html)
On the pic side on this free range Livingstone eland : luckily this bull Is # 7 SCI !!
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC00707_zpseeb637e9.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/DSC00707_zpseeb637e9.jpg.html)
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Here compared to the regular VPA
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/photo-5-4.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/photo-5-4.jpg.html)
Easy to get shaving sharp
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/photo-4.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/photo-4.jpg.html)
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(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a639/martinhunter1/1110121608a_zps1b8e7da1.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/martinhunter1/media/1110121608a_zps1b8e7da1.jpg.html)
Steel Force Hellfire 4 blade broadhead.
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My buddy stickbowdrew here wanted me to share with you just how sharp he can get his muzzy phantoms. Maybe some day I can teach him how to post pics
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z463/dlnwohio/IMG950526.jpg) (http://s1191.photobucket.com/user/dlnwohio/media/IMG950526.jpg.html)
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Thanks David!, just a little caution to everyone don't go up stairs in flip flops! I am very lucky to even be alive a lot of things could have gone differently, fortunately they didn't ad I walked out of the ER with 13 stitches and a serious reminder for a lifetime
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Let's bump this thread up since hunting season is either here or getting close!
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Great thread that shows results, had to bring it back up.
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ttt!
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Original Woodsman entrance from last year.
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(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/elkbreath/IMG_5660_zpsdc262f05.jpg)[/URL]
simmmons shark on a bull this year.
there will be a story later. But, it did its job for sure!
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Glued razors on ma threes in the 60's. then started using little savers and oo3,s man that was along time ago they did a number on woodchucks as you did,nt want them diving down there hole.
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(http://i.imgur.com/ryKO3gr.jpg)
Opening day in WI with a Grizzly 190, passthrough, and about a 50yd weak blood trail.
Just curious how many of those Simmons shots are passing through,maybe I will give them a try. For me thats huge, two medium size holes are better than one big IMHO. Maybe I am wrong. To each their own, what ever flies straight and gives you confidence. I switched from woodsmans to grizzlys and am not looking back.
Great Thread!
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Hybridbow Hunter, are those "Big Jim" bh a VPA? You compare them to a "regular" VPA. How much do they weight?
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Hey Wetfeet. I think it depends on your bow weight and how sharp you get the Simmons, but a lot of guys get pass-throughs without too much trouble. Once you get above 50 lbs, it is pretty easy to get two holes in whitetails. All you need to do is avoid the bones in the shoulder and you are set.
That said, if you switched away from woodsmans to get better penetration you should probably stay away from the Simmons. I do know that Charlie Lamb swears broadhead sharpness will add pounds to your bow, if that makes sense. I tend to agree that razor sharp broadheads will penetrate far better than dull ones. All that to say, if you are confident in your sharpening skills(the grizzlies and woodsmans both razor sharp), and you still want the Grizzlies over the woodsmans, the Simmons may not suit you.
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I was using the Steel master to sharpen the Simmons and I got them sharp enough to shave, but I was not getting pass throughs but about half the time. I started using the Razors edge and hewlet jewel stick and I have shot 4 does and got pass throughs so far this year. The last one was quartering away and came out the off shoulder real low. The blood trail was 4 foot wide.LCH
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Speaking of simmons, I use a file and then finish with a wheelie sharpener
(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a499/Cmane081/image_zpse0b05b3b.jpg) (http://s1280.photobucket.com/user/Cmane081/media/image_zpse0b05b3b.jpg.html)
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(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac149/stephan109/shoulderblade_zps5aa0a6d5.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/stephan109/media/shoulderblade_zps5aa0a6d5.jpg.html) (http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac149/stephan109/bear2_zpsd6aa9413.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/stephan109/media/bear2_zpsd6aa9413.jpg.html)
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Trumpkin,
Nothing against the simmons, I just like the single bevel concept. That being said. Using a heavy bow 60+ and a 800+ arrow lets you use whatever you want. as long as its sharp. To your point about bones, I think both Grizzlys and the Simmons have the quality of steel to bust well. One I had a bad experience with is muzzy phatoms, it broke in half on a quarter in shot on a small doe. They come sharp as heck but they are so thin they dont hold well on certain shots.
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That's impressive tee bone.
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Here is the doe I shot opening weekend. 150gr German kinetic Silverflame XL.
Entrance:
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/null_zpsd2c0dd44.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/archeryrules/media/null_zpsd2c0dd44.jpg.html)
Exit:
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/9622f3ee-9350-4fdc-9fbf-23f5fc5d9537_zps3d589829.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/archeryrules/media/9622f3ee-9350-4fdc-9fbf-23f5fc5d9537_zps3d589829.jpg.html)
Bisch
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(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/P1000158.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/P1000158.jpg.html)
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My next set of broad heads will be tree sharks!!!! The carnage they cause is unreal.
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Here's the 175gr tiger (http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/jrod4220/IMG_20131104_173417_684.jpg)sharks!!
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I love going through this thread! I hope to add one of my own pics someday soon. :pray:
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really neat pics!
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190gr Ribtek. (http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg591/jwolffe/IMAG0275_zps00513860.jpg) (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/jwolffe/media/IMAG0275_zps00513860.jpg.html) (http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg591/jwolffe/IMAG0277_zpsf2a65729.jpg) (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/jwolffe/media/IMAG0277_zpsf2a65729.jpg.html)
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Originally posted by b.glass:
Hybridbow Hunter, are those "Big Jim" bh a VPA? You compare them to a "regular" VPA. How much do they weight?
Yes they were made by VPA for Big Jim. It was 300 gr screw in and 250 gr glue on. No more available unfortunately. Maybe if enough interest Big Jim could bring them back. I still own 14 of them. One killed 11 game and lost 20 gr after many resharpening. They are same size than the 160 gr snuffers but much tougher and without the noise of those vented snuffers.
I shoot a heavy set up and arrow penetration had never been an issue.
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Originally posted by Wetfeet:
(http://i.imgur.com/ryKO3gr.jpg)
Opening day in WI with a Grizzly 190, passthrough, and about a 50yd weak blood trail.
Just curious how many of those Simmons shots are passing through,maybe I will give them a try. For me thats huge, two medium size holes are better than one big IMHO. Maybe I am wrong. To each their own, what ever flies straight and gives you confidence. I switched from woodsmans to grizzlys and am not looking back.
Great Thread!
I've had complete pass thru on all the deer I've shot with ANY Simmons broad head. I use my CHX 44@28
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Here's a 175 Simmons tiger shark..I LOVE EM!!
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn15/jrod4220/IMG_20131104_173417_684-1.jpg)
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treeshark at 15 yards.
(http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss60/eman614/3b7ee82e-da8c-4b22-9a1a-ae55ea1c8483_zps4691832a.jpg) (http://s561.photobucket.com/user/eman614/media/3b7ee82e-da8c-4b22-9a1a-ae55ea1c8483_zps4691832a.jpg.html)
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Not the best picture but VPA 200's on through the shoulder of a mature dow, complete pass through. Side note, it took about 2 minutes to have it ready to shoot the next deer with.
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv2/zanespurs/The%20Twins/photo_3.jpg) (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/zanespurs/media/The%20Twins/photo_3.jpg.html)
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175 grain Tiger Shark.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Deer%20hunting%202013/Alittlelow_zps432f78c9.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/30coupe/media/Deer%20hunting%202013/Alittlelow_zps432f78c9.jpg.html)
It wasn't a pass through, but I hit the humerus and it glanced back into the rib cage. It clipped the back lobe off of both lungs. The blood trail was impressive! It made kind of a funny scraping noise when I hit her.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/Deer%20hunting%202013/IMG_20131012_100627_zpsb9d9d303.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/30coupe/media/Deer%20hunting%202013/IMG_20131012_100627_zpsb9d9d303.jpg.html)
Notice the triceps muscle sliced off the bone. You can see the entry hole in the rib cage is back farther than I would have thought based on where the arrow hit. There was only one hole, but it was large and low, so the trail was bright red and pretty short.
I sharpen with a jewel stick and finish with a few strokes on a set of crock sticks. They are scary sharp! This is the first year I've used them. So far, I'm impressed.
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(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t608/Pheonixarcher/image_zps382d3112.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/Pheonixarcher/media/image_zps382d3112.jpg.html)
(http://i1316.photobucket.com/albums/t608/Pheonixarcher/image_zpse5ba7a4e.jpg) (http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/Pheonixarcher/media/image_zpse5ba7a4e.jpg.html)
Magnus Stinger 125g 4 blade, Easton axis trad with 3/4" aluminum footing, 150g brass insert for a total arrow weight of ~615g, shot from a Javaman Inferno 56", 51# @ my 28" draw. About 17yard pass thru.
Ps. This thread should be stickied to the top, and I don't like the new photo bucket! Lol
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4 blade 190 Simmons Intersepter
(http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k592/jet26photos/IMG_1313.jpg)
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VPA 1 1/4" 3 blade...
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This thread needs bumped. Have a great day, Scott.
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This thread never gets old
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ttt
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We need to add some 2014 Kill pics to this. After reading all the way through, I have realized that there are more broadheads out there than a man will ever need.
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Originally posted by DanielB89:
We need to add some 2014 Kill pics to this. After reading all the way through, I have realized that there are more broadheads out there than a man will ever need.
I also feel that the simmons land sharks may be slight over kill. As a hunter, my first desire is to eat my prey(after killing of coarse). If you miss your spot and hit the front shoulder or spine the deer, you will lose a good bit of meat from what I saw in the pictures.
Anyone else feel the same way?
Maybe overkill.....but, they appear to be recovered, just thinking out loud. Scott.
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sliced meat grinds up fine... :-)
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I agree that maybe (anecdotal information at best) more muscle tissue is sliced, but isn't that the whole object with our weapons of choice?
The cutting of tissue that results in a quick and as humane death as possible? This should be our goal and using a broad head that is effective in recovery is a win win situation :thumbsup:
Now some of the angle of the shot with those Simmons contributed to massive elongated holes, but again it is hard to anticipate the quick and unexpected moves of deer.
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Over kill!???? :biglaugh: :dunno:
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What I've found is that most "blood shot" is not in the tissue of the meat. More encasing the meat and can be cleaned away before packaging.
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This was the entrance hole with a A Boyer 300 grain. Couldn't believe the blood trail and only went 28 yards.
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee178/sunstone/P1030345_zps6b77bc72.jpg) (http://s234.photobucket.com/user/sunstone/media/P1030345_zps6b77bc72.jpg.html)
This was a small pig and the arrow went in sharp quartering away cutting 2 ribs, taking the heart going through the throat and logging in the lower jaw. I was using a 60" Centaur 51# and a total weight arrow of 776 grains.
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee178/sunstone/P1030321_zps4c139ca9.jpg) (http://s234.photobucket.com/user/sunstone/media/P1030321_zps4c139ca9.jpg.html)
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With the big holes you see from the Simmons heads it is all from a cut no different really then if the meat is cut while being butchered. It's not the same as a big hole with a rifle or shotgun. Believe me I shoot a larger caliber rifle (.300 win mag) with ballistic tips and my grandpa shoots an elephant gun for whitetails. There are times we do lose part of the shoulder meat or lower leg meat. Now this does not mean that some meat with the simmons may be lost or not I don't know yet but hope to find out this fall. It's always better though to lose even one whole shoulder of an animal and still recover the rest to eat than not recover the animal at all.
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Originally posted by JamesKerr:
With the big holes you see from the Simmons heads it is all from a cut no different really then if the meat is cut while being butchered. It's not the same as a big hole with a rifle or shotgun. Believe me I shoot a larger caliber rifle (.300 win mag) with ballistic tips and my grandpa shoots an elephant gun for whitetails. There are times we do lose part of the shoulder meat or lower leg meat, That doesn't mean some meat with the simmons may not be lost or not I don't know yet but hope to find out this fall. It's always better though to lose even one hole shoulder of an animal and still recover the rest to eat than not recover the animal at all.
James, that is along the lines of what I was thinking. I know that I have had some not so well placed shots on deer just because I didn't focus and lost a good bit of meat. I do agree that you want to find the deer, but indians at one time used stone points. I hope I didn't degrade the heads in any manner, as that was not my intent.
Thanks for the reply.
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"Notice the triceps muscle sliced off the bone. You can see the entry hole in the rib cage is back farther than I would have thought based on where the arrow hit."
30Coupe - I am guessing with great certainty the leg is in a much different spot in the top pic than it was when the arrow struck giving the illusion of a "far forward" hit. Perfect shot BTW.
As far as blood in meat and salvaging what has been cut. If you soak the meat in a bowl of salt water over night it will be just fine. I even soak hearts that have been shot through and they are good to go and yummy the next day.
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There is no such thing as "over kill" in bow hunting! You get what you cut....
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=211;t=000012
The bigger pig in the link above was shot with a Treeshark. “Oreo” was perfectly broadside and the gash didn't look any different than anything I've shot with a Magnus 1.
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Daniel I lost a deer this year that was shot high in the chest cavity with a Zwickey Delta 4 blade. The shot was really close and I nicked a vertebrae going down and bent the bleeder on one side and dulled the head pretty good. There was hardly any blood at all. I have seen the pictures posted here on this thread of the simmons and all the other heads and when I shoot an animal from now on I want there to be buckets of blood. The simmons seem like the best choice because they make even the zwickey delta 4 blade look like a tiny little head. I have done some test shooting into milk jugs full of water with different heads and found that the simmons or a 3 blade like a woodsman or snuffer seems to promote the quickest loss of water. Sometimes with the 4 blades the hole would just look like a regular 2 blade slit with very small cuts with the bleeder blades went through. I won't even go into a narrow 2 blade.
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Hopefully now its the 2014 seaon can we get any more pics.
This thread is awesome. I'm using 250 vpa 2 blade this year hopeto get a deer with them. so hopefully I can get some pics up soon.
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Here's my Simmons "Tiger shark" story from Halloween afternoon. Although not proud of the shot it all worked out and I contribute that to these broad heads!
At 6:10 pm I took a shot at a quartering away doe shooting on her right side from 11 yards. At the shot she moved and my arrow appeared to hit her way back and in the ham about middle ways up, and with very little penetration.
She took off as shot out of a cannon, and I watched my arrow fall to the ground about 15 feet away from where she stood. Upon investigating the area I found found white belly hair and stomach materials, instead of brown hair from the hip.
I backed out for 3 hours and upon returning prepared for a long night of tracking. I set out to look for a gut shot deer that I originally would have said was hit in the ham.
After 50 yards of nothing but gut materials and no blood I find a pile of intestines, the large, small, and the colon all piled together :dunno:
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/Bow%20season%202014/34c60317-7091-4acb-b6a8-658f838c8358.jpg) (http://s795.photobucket.com/user/jalmay5th/media/Bow%20season%202014/34c60317-7091-4acb-b6a8-658f838c8358.jpg.html)
From there I begin to fine small droplets of blood for the next 61 yards and a dead deer that stiff as a board from being dead for 3 hours.
In my case the Simmons Tiger shark had unzipped the lower paunch of the doe and totally disemboweled her by the first 50 yards.
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/Bow%20season%202014/f1af8447-f483-4371-bd0b-9c5efa8f78dd.jpg) (http://s795.photobucket.com/user/jalmay5th/media/Bow%20season%202014/f1af8447-f483-4371-bd0b-9c5efa8f78dd.jpg.html)
That's why I was able to get a deer that otherwise would have gotten a close shave and a lesson in survival. The Simmons turn a bad shot into tenderloins.
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/Bow%20season%202014/77da062a-2682-405a-9371-56204eaca53e.jpg) (http://s795.photobucket.com/user/jalmay5th/media/Bow%20season%202014/77da062a-2682-405a-9371-56204eaca53e.jpg.html)
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ttt anyone have more success pics?
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http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b542/CoachBGriff/20141030_203601_zpsfcde30c8.jpg
Simmons Tigershark 175 gr. produced almost 2" hole and a 45 yrd recovery. VERY impressed!
God Bless,
Rodd
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250 Gr VPA 1-1/4" 3 Blade
(http://i.imgur.com/s3gv1UN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WW2777y.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/r8JZHZk.jpg)
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Originally posted by DarkTimber:
250 Gr VPA 1-1/4" 3 Blade
(http://i.imgur.com/s3gv1UN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WW2777y.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/r8JZHZk.jpg)
Now that's a "Happy Trail" :scared:
Nice shootin :thumbsup:
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11/01/14
delta 4 blade.
(http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae69/arrow30_photos/S1590022.jpg~original) (http://s958.photobucket.com/user/arrow30_photos/media/S1590022.jpg.html)
11/21/14
delta 4blade.
(http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae69/arrow30_photos/S1640044.jpg~original) (http://s958.photobucket.com/user/arrow30_photos/media/S1640044.jpg.html)
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I am surprised not seeing more pictures about shots with the " battle axe " from centaur
i think that blade is even wider than the
simmons ...!!!
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Delta two blade.
This year's fall turkey
(http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data/500/medium/20141018_134448.jpg)
My first buck shot and recovered: Story to come at the end of this season.
(http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data/500/medium/20141116_090512.jpg)
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And just for fun!!
(http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data/500/medium/PART_1354468166186.jpeg)
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Any December/January pics from this past season?
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Get up at 4:30 with my 3 year old, then order Tree Sharks at 5:30 am. Why not right!! Great thread and perfect Saturday read.
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I love when this thread comes back up and see new pics.
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Any pics out there of Helix BH's? Excellent thread btw
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The tree shark is the only head I will ever shoot at a deer, bear, and hogs for the rest of my life. All others need not apply.
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Ok, it's been too long since this thread has been bumped, I find myself searching for this topic at least once a month so here're goes.
TTT!!! :bigsmyl:
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Hey Pete. That doesn't look like Joe.
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The season is on now. Somebody should have some more pics to post.
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..workin on it..lol
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The lower hole is on a buck I shot last week, and was made by Magnus Stinger 2 blade (the upper hole was made by another hunter the day before I shot this buck, and I had no clue he was even injured when I shot him):
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/CB16B575-9268-4667-A4EF-933C3CEC6CAE_zpspxcrtxfn.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/archeryrules/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/CB16B575-9268-4667-A4EF-933C3CEC6CAE_zpspxcrtxfn.jpg.html)
Bisch
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145 grain snuffer
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/image-12.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image-12.jpg.html)
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/IMG_0419.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/IMG_0419.jpg.html)
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/image-3.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image-3.jpg.html)
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Originally posted by Bisch:
The lower hole is on a buck I shot last week, and was made by Magnus Stinger 2 blade (the upper hole was made by another hunter the day before I shot this buck, and I had no clue he was even injured when I shot him):
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/CB16B575-9268-4667-A4EF-933C3CEC6CAE_zpspxcrtxfn.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/archeryrules/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10/CB16B575-9268-4667-A4EF-933C3CEC6CAE_zpspxcrtxfn.jpg.html)
Bisch
I'm curious to know how that other guy didn't kill that deer....was there not much penetration? Expandable broadhead maybe?
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As am I. Did that other hole enter the body cavity, or was it just a glancing hit perhaps from jumping the string and a high angle?
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Because if it went in or out at that height that is way too high for a lung to be harmed. Even if thats the entry hole and it angle down and forward a one lung hit deer can make it a long while or live on. If it hit that high and angled backward still not much in the way to kill it soon or ever.
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Yea that deer was shot thru the straps from what I see.Two seasons ago I shot one high thru the backstraps,it was just a bad shot on my part.The good part was my brother killed that same doe two weeks later on another stand about 1/2 mile from where I shot her.The high wound was already healing.
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I killed one once that had a bullet in his back around the same place. The bullet wound was healed, but for the life of me I can't figure out how it didn't break it's back. They are resilient creatures.
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If you ever look at a cut out of a whitetail the spine drops way low. That shot is over the spine actually.
When you see guys shoot deer in that kinda high shoulder shot n they drop in there tracks. It's because they hit the spine. Most hunters don't realize how low the spine is above the lungs and shoulders..
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Looks to me that they all work just fine. Keep em sharp fellas.
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Here's Chris's video on sharpening the Simmons broadheads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtNBQoVlz80
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Originally posted by Fritz:
Here's Chris's video on sharpening the Simmons broadheads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtNBQoVlz80
I used Chris Spikes' tutorial to sharpen my Simmons. It's by far the best method I've found.
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Simmons Interceptor Original 190
(http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q624/hcbstrings/HCB%20strings%20In%20Action/844BF77E-E957-4849-9913-EA550FE52342_zpsjwzlhzwk.jpg) (http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/hcbstrings/media/HCB%20strings%20In%20Action/844BF77E-E957-4849-9913-EA550FE52342_zpsjwzlhzwk.jpg.html)
You can't really see exit wound, but you can tell by the amount of blood that it is quite devastating. First blood was immediate and he made it about 50 yards.
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This is the best one I have gotten a pic of lately! This is from a 1 1/8" wide German Kinetic head.
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/3634784E-C817-4282-B00E-E9C427168CCB_zpsmx0tu1e8.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/archeryrules/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/3634784E-C817-4282-B00E-E9C427168CCB_zpsmx0tu1e8.jpg.html)
That little piggy had a heart attack!
Bisch
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Originally posted by Arctic Hunter: [/qb]
I'm curious to know how that other guy didn't kill that deer....was there not much penetration? Expandable broadhead maybe? [/QB][/QUOTE]
Like TJ said above, that arrow went straight thru both backstraps, never touching anything vital!
Bisch
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Must not have been much of an angle.
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Originally posted by Arctic Hunter:
Must not have been much of an angle.
It was not. It was a hole straight thru at that level. I talked to the guy who shot him first, and he said he had shot him with a wheel bow at 35yds.
That being said, if you hit a deer where that hole is, no matter the angle, there is a great likelyhood that you will not find the deer. It would most likely be no lung, or a one lung hit, and even if the deer was to die, it could go a very long ways before that happened.
Bisch
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Bisch. I've got the single bevel version that Alaskan makes, the Massia. I'm itching to get a good pic of a wound channel! I lost one that I shouldn't have this past season but I'm hoping to redeem it soon.
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Tusker concorde
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/2016-02-12%2023.34.15.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/2016-02-12%2023.34.15.jpg.html)
Ace express
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20151101_080702-1.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20151101_080702-1.jpg.html)
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Originally posted by Rob W.:
Tusker concorde
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/2016-02-12%2023.34.15.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/2016-02-12%2023.34.15.jpg.html)
Ace express
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/20151101_080702-1.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/20151101_080702-1.jpg.html)
Rob,
Is that second arrow angled backwards? Remember the verdict? How far it went?
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Daniel, that second one was actual angled toward the opposite front shoulder. The broadhead got out the other side and broke off. He went 40 yrds and was done. The rest of the shaft took that funny angle we he went down.
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Oh, ok. I was wondering.
good shooting, Rob.
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Another Simmons 175 Tigershark. Notice how clean my arrow looks :saywhat:
The deer turn into me at the shot resulting in a graze across it neck. But with a Simmons thats usually deadly!
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5475/30525285695_309c35b4a7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nvq4Xe) IMG_1474 (https://flic.kr/p/Nvq4Xe)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5537/29892577083_60d81c0fc1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MxvgJ4) IMG_1487 (https://flic.kr/p/MxvgJ4)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5649/30488886976_5571dced18.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NscvT7) IMG_1481 (https://flic.kr/p/NscvT7)
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man those simmons do some serious damage. I think they just made it to my christmas list!
Msturm
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Grizzly single bevel
Entry:
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/image_45.jpeg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_45.jpeg.html)
Exit:
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/image_46.jpeg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_46.jpeg.html)
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Entrance: (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_084407.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_084407.jpg.html)
Exit:
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_084303.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151120_084303.jpg.html)
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Entrance: (http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/20151119_092622.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151119_092622.jpg.html)
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Now here is why if you are using a narrow double bevel you should switch to a single bevel IMO
Compare the typical single bevel hole here:
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/20151121_154640.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151121_154640.jpg.html)
To the typical double bevel hole of the same outside diameter broadhead specs (this was a proven name brand broadhead which shall go unamed but has been around for decades):
Entrance:
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/20151117_211738.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151117_211738.jpg.html)
Exit:
(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/cottonwood88/Mobile%20Uploads/20151117_211727.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/cottonwood88/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151117_211727.jpg.html)
Are you playing where's Waldo? ...me too and you can bet the blood trail was a where's Waldo trip too. Single bevels offer a slight penetration advantage but they also open a bigger whole for recovery.
Of course they all kill just as humanely and all these animals died with so little pain that all not one of them stopped and began resuming activity before succumbing within seconds...that is a good feeling for any avid bowhunter!
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I've used the popular 2 blades and 3 blade heads and they all gotten the job done, but the Simmons heads in my opinion have turned marginal shots into recovery. And for that alone they have become my favorite head at the moment.
And the blood trails have been fantastic!
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Originally posted by South MS Bowhunter:
I've used the popular 2 blades and 3 blade heads and they all gotten the job done, but the Simmons heads in my opinion have turned marginal shots into recovery. And for that alone they have become my favorite head at the moment.
And the blood trails have been fantastic!
I am a very big simmons supporter as well. Bottom line is that Jerry Simmons knew what he was doing and his products are still proving that. I have shot the interceptor, tigershark, and tree shark. I haven't found that even the largest treeshark is hard to tune. I love their products!
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I'm curious as to the penetration depths with the Simmons heads compared to more standard width heads. Especially with bows that are under 50#'s.
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I can't speak to penetration queries as both of the deers I shot using the Simmons Tigershark were just grazing shots and both deer died from the blood lost.
One is on this page above and the other is posted on page 21.
The one on page 21 died from her paunch being unzipped and her bowels spilling out. I honestly thought when I came to track (left for 3 hours) that upon finding her gut pile that someone had stolen my deer!
The one above died from what appeared to me only a muscle wound, but the blood was a bright red showing possibly an artery was cut, although none was apparent.
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Man! This is about the best advertisement for Simmons broad heads anyone could imagine. I'm sold! I just ordered 6 land sharks.
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(http://i.imgur.com/zkJnvus.jpg)
Entry wound Simmons Tigershark 150glue on 100gr adapter : 250gr
(http://i.imgur.com/eWpTf2O.jpg)
Exit Wound Gruesome
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Tree shark
Entry:
(http://i.imgur.com/oZ7z6Do.jpg)
Exit:
(http://i.imgur.com/L82nXyr.jpg)
These heads are unreal. I can get them incredibly sharp, they fly very well and the penetration was good -- I got full penetration but not a pass through.
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(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/Chris_Blaskowski/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_3976_1_zpsp26fjmlr.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/Chris_Blaskowski/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_3976_1_zpsp26fjmlr.jpg.html)
Treeshark hole. This is not uncommon. Ivw had a bunch of holes this size over the years. Get m razor sharp and shoot with confidence.
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i shot a doe this past weekend with my widdow recurve 42 @ 29 400 spine gt with 165 land shark up front this was my first experiance with a simmons head and im simply amazed the shot was 8 yards and a complete pass through left the biggest hole ive personally ever seen in a deer made me a believer deer died around 30 seconds after shot if i can figure out pics ill post them up
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TTT,,,Just had to re-post this after my earlier post. :archer2:
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(http://i.imgur.com/x3l41bP.jpg?1)
Grizzly Broadhead
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(http://i.imgur.com/fzbGTyr.jpg?1)
Here is what the Grizzly did to the heart of this deer
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I just love this thread
C
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250 gr 1-1/4" VPA 3 Blade
(http://i.imgur.com/xRjYUCU.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VhDxAcN.jpg)
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beautiful shot! :thumbsup:
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250 gr Tusker Concord single bevel.
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg614/tomsm44/IMG_3145.jpg) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/tomsm44/media/IMG_3145.jpg.html)
Entry.
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg614/tomsm44/IMG_3116.jpg) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/tomsm44/media/IMG_3116.jpg.html)
Exited rib cage, hit off side leg bone, and broke the arrow. The broadhead and front half of arrow turned down and travelled along inside of leg bone, then exited the back of the leg below the elbow.
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg614/tomsm44/IMG_3141.jpg) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/tomsm44/media/IMG_3141.jpg.html)
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg614/tomsm44/IMG_3142.jpg) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/tomsm44/media/IMG_3142.jpg.html)
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This thread is awesome! I will definitely be ordering the Treesharks!
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ttt, should see some pictures coming up soon..
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Frontal shot, 2 yards, Simmons Tree Shark...
Entrance:
(https://i.imgur.com/RRE2hGNl.jpg)
Exit:
(https://i.imgur.com/bpJxJxhl.jpg)
Blood Trail:
(https://i.imgur.com/2J1dzmAl.jpg)
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^^^ that will do it!!^^^^
Like many others I love this thread
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A couple Simmons treeshark pics
(http://i.imgur.com/lrVQllr.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ozN3e7a.jpg)
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Ttt
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Dacite point (85 grains ish) on bamboo shaft (455 grains).
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Obsidian and a hard maple shaft. The point actually broke in half when it hit the shoulder on the opposite side but still went clear through. The piece that broke off was lodged in the tissue
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Valkyrie broadhead.
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This was from a buck last fall, entered the top of the left shoulder and exited through the chest, the single bevel left a wide S wound through the heart. This was the Single Bevel Magnus Classics I used to sell before Thunder Valley closed their doors. These are based on the 160 Grain Magnus Classic.
(https://i.imgur.com/WEoFOsK.jpg?2)
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Not so much an exit wound but to show how tough Grizzly heads are. This was a steep quartering angle on a hog and we found the 235 grain grizzly lodged over an inch deep in the lower jaw on the exit side. Total arrow weight was 900 grains, I was shooting a Northern Mist Classic 73@28" longbow.
(https://i.imgur.com/ATWSS01.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/efp5llk.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/Syxwn5G.jpg?2)
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centaur battle axe
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L shaped exit, Abowyer Large Bonehead
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Magnus 4-blade serrated
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Treeshark
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This is the third deer I have killed with the Wensel Woodsman. This was the 175 grain on a carbon express heritage shaft with 50 grain brass insert.
51# Pronghorn Longbow.
I think the 175 grain is a little shorter than the original Wensel Woodsman, but these broadheads shoot so good and sharpen really easy. They have always left a good blood trail.
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Last night with a treeshark!
Tim B
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Simmons Swamp Shark did great
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treeshark----->(https://i.imgur.com/nIKW5QF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JRdvNgr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/a5TsT74.jpg)
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200 Grain VPA:
Entry
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145 grain Bone head … notice the large "s" cut from a 1 1/4 head!
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It’s too bad most of the pics in this thread are no longer viewable. Let’s add some new ones! I killed a nice Tom this spring, but sadly, I forgot to take a good pic of the big hole the Centaur Big Game Head left. No deer yet, but hopefully soon.
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YEAH...most if the pics are gone thanks to **** bucket!!!
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and a bloody great shame it is too!!! (no pun intended) :tongue:
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It wont let me upload
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Silver flame.
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Man I’ve used grizzly heads since the first kill I made on a deer in 1991 with a longbow. I have a pic of a blood trail a blind man could follow from that little 1 1/8” Two blade head. A 150” buck, reminded me of the Valdez oil spill. I place zero confidence in type of head and 100% in narrow angle and super sharp.
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Day6 XL 200gr
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WW Elite, large doe.
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Zwickey Delta
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150gr German Kinetic XL
Entrance right in the point of the deadly “V”:
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Exit just above opposite arm pit:
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Tree Shark...
Thought I was going to have to check in two cats....
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Zwickey Delta. Did not intend to hit her there!
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Got another doe today with the German Kinetic XL!
Entrance:
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Exit:
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She went about 35yds, and I watched her topple over!!!! I really love these heads!!!
Bisch
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160gn ACE. First year using this broadhead. I sharpened it with a file and Rada sharpener. Scary sharp.
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Thought I'd bring my favorite all-time thread back for the 2021 season.
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Don’t have to many pics of the entry wounds but do have this one from a zwickey eskimo
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Here are the results of shooting a large doe with a Clovis point I knapped. I figured that nobody had likely killed a deer with a Clovis in Iowa for maybe ~12,000 years.....Atlatl isn't a legal weapon in Iowa, so I used a selfbow and wood arrow to deliver the point. Broke a rib going in, through both lungs, and lodged in the offside shoulder suffering a small impact fracture, which is commonly seen on ancient examples also. Deer ran maybe 20 yards and fell over.
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Looks like they all work. Ace has been good for me many seasons.
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Magnus stinger “killer bee” with bleeders.
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175 VPA
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First animal with a tuffhead. Have gotten identical exits with the single bevel grizzly. Entrance was a vermicelli slit wider than the head I assume due to the angle of entry. No good pics of it. Exit is perpendicular cut wise to the entry showing (safe to assume head rotation through the animal). Did not autopsy but no broken leg bones so assume the hardest thing it hit was a rib. This was a young female coyote.
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VPA 3 Blade 1-1/8 190 Glue On
23 Yards slightly quartered to. 55@29 Whistler. Xx75 2117
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Bumping this incredible thread with yet another VPA. This one is the 200 grain 1-1/4” variety. If killing my first turkey with a longbow wasn’t enough, I’m giving myself a gold star for using fletchings made from the first two Tom’s I took with shotguns. First shot disabled the Jake then the second shot went through breast plate up to fletching. Maybe a 10 yard shot. Man I love these heads.
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PICS????? :dunno:
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You referring to my post? They’re showing up on my end.
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Yep, I see them.
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Yeah I'm not seeing them! Not sure why, crazy. I love this thread ...... it needs to be refreshed often as it really lights the fire!!! I'm hoping to be posting a big ole' Delta 2 blade hole in a turkey come Sunday mornin'! :bigsmyl:
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I really enjoy this thread.... don't post on it as most of my pics ove the las 25 years are scattered all over the site and would take me days to find them... just for the record, lots of hearts and lungs with plus signs in them, and a few with Tristars..... and a few with axe sized 2 blades.
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Bump.
Anyone on the board yet?
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Exit hole made by Ace Standard 145 grain
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This is from a 1 1/8”wide German Kinetic on a pig I killed a couple weeks ago.
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Bisch
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Bump.
Modified Chisled Cutthroat
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Hole from a 1 1/2 inch wide Snuffer through the heart of my AK bull moose 😀
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Ace standard
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A Simmons Tree Shark made the job clean and fast
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Same Tree Shark just resharpened
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The last pig didn’t make a single step rolled stone dead downhill
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Ace standard, with the insert about 175 grains shot from a #38 ASL
Entrance
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Entrance left, exit right
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Sorry, I don't understand this thread anymore. What's the point? Trying to out gross the next guy? I mean, C'mon we all know broadheads kill by hemorrhage. Why glorify it. I'm old enough to remember the campaigns in magazines years ago to clean up our act and ur critter before taking a pictures.
Please Terry, shut er down.
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Gun I’d venture to guess you’d be the minority with your opinion of this thread. All broadheads leave a hole of course and a lot of the holes might be similar, but there is still educational value to this thread! The title says it clear as day……. So one should expect to see game with a hole that corresponds to the broadhead used to take it! If one does not want to see such images they can simply not explore the thread! There is nothing gross about it! There are new broadheads that hit the market all the time. Folks especially beginners might like to see results these heads create, more so than the expired animal but the mechanical results of the gear used to make it happen! Terry / mods, do no such thing as removing it please!
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We would be better served to educate using proper equipment and SHARPENING broadheads to RAZOR sharpness.
I used to think file sharp w burr removal was good enough. In the last 7 years since using single bevels and getting them mirror smooth and super sharp I see the vast majority of my kills fall in sight.
I stand by my statements above. Carry on.
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Yeah, I'd say the board consensus is that this thread is here to stay considering it started in 2011. One of my favorite threads on this board.
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1.5 inch Snuffer mounted on a 2018 shaft. 49# Pronghorn Longbow. 8 yard shot.
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Bump.
Modified Chisled Cutthroat
Can you explain why you added the serrations/dips along the blade edge? Thanks
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Texas Whitetail doe vs 150 grain Grizzly single bevel.
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Texas Whitetail doe vs 150 grain Grizzly single bevel.
I was just curious. I had seen variations of the design done by other guys/companies. There is a thought that it assists in "grabbing" and slicing more. I don't know if that's the case, but it sure worked well. I also have a Bonehead 1-1/4" head that I've done it to as well. Haven't ran it through anything yet, but I think I will prefer it over the narrower Cutthroat.
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Terry, this may be off subject enough, you will want to take it off. I was squirrel hunting yesterday and found this arrowhead and it made me think of this subject. There must be a reason the Indians used such small broadheads.
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Gordon, not sure why you think your post would me removed, that's about as Trad as it gets Sir!
Also, that looks to be a bird point. Nice find!!!
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Ace Standard from 52 pound Hill Style longbow. Entrance low in front of the leg, through chest, stuck in offside leg bone. Never did recover the BH.
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Gordon, not sure why you think your post would me removed, that's about as Trad as it gets Sir!
Also, that looks to be a bird point. Nice find!!!
Read an article once about a museum that had some bird points with blood still on them. They had it analyzed and it turned out to be deer blood. They may not leave the hole Simmons heads do, but they appear to have gotten the same results…dinner!
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Entrance with Simmons Great White head
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Exit in armpit with Great White
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Gordon, that's one of the coolest things I've seen here. Nice find!
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Single bevel Abowyer, broke his shoulder blade. Split it about 6" and took out both lungs. He still made it around 60 yards. Tough young buck. Head did a great job coming out of a 55# Stalker recurve. 17 or so yard shot.
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190 grain ribtek on a large whitetail doe.
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Ace Express, 160 gains with the screw in adapter.
Bear Grizzly, 45#'s.
Easton Autumn Orange 1916. 500 gr. total arrow weight.
15 yards broadside. 40 yard recovery. LOTS of blood.
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I don't think I remember another Howard Hill head on here so.....62# Hill Longbow shot through both front shoulders (no bones but lots of meat). Dressed 120 pounds, 38 steps shot from tree. Vintage POC arrows with File sharpened and serrated Hill heads.
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Exit hide on - can see Hill head poking through:
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Awesome buddy! Favorite thread......