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Title: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: ron w on March 01, 2011, 07:28:00 PM
Looks like an Elk hunt is in my future for this fall.I'm not a big fan of bow quivers but I'm thinking it may be the way to go for the hike'n and such in the high country......any thoughts or opinions??   thanks,   :wavey:     ron w
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Zmonster on March 01, 2011, 07:38:00 PM
Ron,

Hows it going? Lucky you. I may be headed to Colorado for a Elk chase as well this fall. I spent the last 6 years in Colorado before moving here last year. All the elk chasing I did was with a side quiver. Didnt get in my way at all. Im not a fan of the bow quiver, but the single arrow quiver that black widow offers and a side quiver looks like a good set up. I used the German ridge possibles/quiver that 3R sells, and the GFA quiver while I was up there. When I used the GFA, I was also carrying a Bison Gear pack. When I was using the possibles combo, thats all I carried. Really dont need much in a elk hunt but the bare necessities. I left everything else at the spike camp.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: ron w on March 01, 2011, 07:51:00 PM
I think I'm going to use the small Badlands Diablo day pack,I thought maybe a bow quiver would be just one less thing to mess with while sneaking around!
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Zbearclaw on March 01, 2011, 07:53:00 PM
I spent two decades hating a bow quiver and trying all the side quivers, back quivers and shiver quivers.

When a bull comes in screaming his head off I want looking for another arrow to be idiot (ie me) proof.

Bow quivers are the only choice for me for hiking lots of country.  That's one of the simple beauties of hunting with a trad bow and bow quiver.  2 hours before sun up when I roll out of my bivy tired and sleepy I throw on my pack, put on my boots and pick up my bow.

YMMV, but even though I cussed them forever, the alternatives don't work for me.

Good luck in elk country.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: ron w on March 01, 2011, 08:12:00 PM
Simplicity. that's what I was thinking......
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on March 01, 2011, 08:14:00 PM
Ron let me know what you find out and fill me in   :readit:  I could use some tips

Just sayin that's all   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: YORNOC on March 01, 2011, 09:19:00 PM
Bring LOTS of arrows. Even if you hunt with a bow quiver, keep a good stash of arrows in another enclosure with the horses or back at camp.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Stumpkiller on March 01, 2011, 09:27:00 PM
IMHO a bow quiver is like a side-car on a motorcycle.  Handy, but it degrades the ride.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Gerardo on March 01, 2011, 09:30:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Stumpkiller:
IMHO a bow quiver is like a side-car on a motorcycle.  Handy, but it degrades the ride.
That's a good one !!!!
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: ron w on March 01, 2011, 09:42:00 PM
I have ridden Bikes for 41 years...18 with a side car......depends who is with you, just like hunting.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: ron w on March 01, 2011, 10:37:00 PM
I should of stated in the beginning of this post....I have several bow quivers, 3 different GFA style and a couple of Baker side quivers. Just want to get some opinions on what you guys have used or think is the best!
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: sawtoothscream on March 01, 2011, 11:23:00 PM
if you shoot good with them then i would use one. i hate using a side quiver in the woods. bugs me.  just got my bow quiver in and im liking it so far.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: awbowman on March 01, 2011, 11:37:00 PM
I shoot with a quiver.  It's all a preference, some people like it some don't.  I shoot short recurves and hybrids and the added weight is good.

Check out the Kanati Slim Jim (you will have to call Kanati, they are not on the website).  You won't know it's there.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: CRS on March 01, 2011, 11:51:00 PM
It really comes down to personal preference.

I really like bow quivers, to me the extra weight helps stabilize the bow and I actually shoot better.

But with that being said, when I took my selfbow to Alaska, I used a side quiver, but it ended up being strapped to my Schuh pack.  It also gets in the way when wearing my Pack Idaho pack, (now Bison Gear).

The same goes with back quivers, just do not work well while wearing any type of hunting pack.

But I can see the benefits of having a detached quiver maybe? while stand hunting.  Either tree or ground blind.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Skipmaster1 on March 01, 2011, 11:56:00 PM
After chasing elk a bit I wouldn't dream of anything but a bow quiver. when it comes time to drop your pack and ditch your shoes to make a final sneak, you want your arrows close and to carry as little as possible
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: House on March 02, 2011, 12:10:00 AM
I second what Skipmaster said above!  I too fought the idea of a bow quiver for many years, but after my experiences during my last two elk seasons with either Arrowmaster (which I love for other hunting) or Catquivers I must say that it will be bow quiver only while chasing elk from now on...I'm really liking the EFA quiver I recently put on my go to Morrison Dakota.

Travis
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: yamaharider on March 02, 2011, 12:34:00 AM
I use a bow quiver too.  As you know,  one should practice with a full quiver on the bow at all times. When hunting, especially elk, you will cover alot of terrian and the situation and area can change so quickly.  Bow quiver keeps it relatively simple.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: elknutz on March 02, 2011, 12:43:00 AM
I have always hated bow quivers and have always used hip/side quivers for hunting.  However, I think I am going to give the Slim Jim a try this year.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: cacciatore on March 02, 2011, 02:29:00 AM
I hunted elk 23 years always with my bow quiver on,never had a problem,fast to go to pass through the willow to cross the creeks,nothing to loose to rattle to search or reach on the fast move.I can't immagine to have arrow somewhere else than next to my bow.I carry 3 or 4 arrows only but I have plenty of other at camp.In the wilderness you don't have time  or chances to dry them or fix them.I just change arrows often if needed.My shooting and accuracy are not effected either by the quiver.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Apex Predator on March 02, 2011, 05:38:00 AM
I hate bow quivers, but I hate the alternatives more!  I love to hunt with a "Hill" style bow, but don't much any more because they aren't a good match to a bow quiver.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: ron w on March 02, 2011, 09:09:00 AM
All good input folks I think I'll try it for a bit and see if I can get familiar with it. That final stalk situation makes sense to me!
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: dan d on March 02, 2011, 09:19:00 AM
I read all these posts and wonder why no one is concerned with having to draw on an animal with a big blob of a bow ?
I haven't hunted elk, but have taken my share of whitetails, and their eyesight is amazing, they catch the smallest of movement, I want my bow to be as streamlined and as small and stick like looking as possible. Don't want to be waving a mass of arrows when I draw. I will keep fighting to find the best back or side quiver to prevent that. Plus I see a lot of guys practicing at 3d's with back quivers because they want to have the cool traditional look, but then they hunt with a bow quiver, practice with what you are gonna use hunting.
I will be watching this post for ideas, don't get me wrong, I think a bow quiver is the most convienant.
Dan
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: bigbadjon on March 02, 2011, 09:25:00 AM
I resisted the bow quiver for awhile, but when I started putting some serious time in the woods I realized it was the best option. I haven't tried the Safarituff quiver yet but I am tempted. It looks like you can cinch it up tight to your back so it isn't dangling. It doesn't look very traditional but I assume you're not trying to make a fashion statement.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: ti-guy on March 02, 2011, 09:25:00 AM
Most of the time we hunt in dense cover,for still hunting and walking I prefer a cat quiver when I'm spotted or calling I like the bow quiver.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Stumpkiller on March 02, 2011, 09:30:00 AM
I can recommend highly the practice of a one-arrow bow quiver.  I still hunt with this arrangement and a side quiver.  That gives me one ready shot and a bunch quickly available.

And the bow is as naked as God intended when you take the shot.    ;)  

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Bowhunting/HPIM1065.jpg)

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 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Bowhunting/HPIM0346.jpg)
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: 2fletch on March 02, 2011, 09:35:00 AM
Like many of you, I did not like the idea of a bow quiver. The first one that I put on (years ago) was heavy on the bow and caused the bow to shoot to the left.

About 6 years ago I ran into a guy who was making a bow quiver, but wanted to sell his dies and some material. This quiver was a little bitty 3 arrow quiver and it had some flaws but it caught my eye. We bought his dies and have been making improvements and many new models since. One of the things that sets our (EFA) quivers apart is that they are made as lightweight as posssible so as not to have a detrimental effect on how the bow shoots or feels in hand.

A proper bow quiver will help to improve the accuracy of most bows, especially lightweight high performance bows like the Shrews, Strikers, Morrisons, Beeler, etc. They can also quiet down some noisy bows.

Last night I put a quiver on a bow that shoots darned good to see if I could get a little more out of it. (It was an EFA 4 arrow Navajo I Jumbo I with the "totem" and "wing" attachments.) Shooting 4 arrow rounds, I noticed first of all that there was a little less vibration in the bow. Also, even though the point of impact was the same, the groups were a little tighter. This bow was a Pinnacle riser with Black Max limbs.

To conclude, we make side, back, and pocket quivers also, but our bow quivers are my favorite for hunting, 3-D, or stump shooting.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 02, 2011, 09:41:00 AM
i've never chased elk, but that sure would be a dream hunt - lucky you, ron!  i never liked bow quivers 'til i strapped on an ultra light efa, now i'm hooked.  the efa works just fine on any stick bow, including my hills.  that said, i also love using a safari tuff duiker - also extremely light.  

now, for me, the choice difference 'tween the two above quivers is the number of arrows needed to carry - 5 for the efa and up to 10 with the duiker, though typically 8 - and whether or not a bow quiver will affect the balance and feel of a particular stick bow.

at least i have two viable choices.  a win-win situation, imo.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Over&Under on March 02, 2011, 09:41:00 AM
I have hunted elk for lots of years and a side quiver slides around, moves and swings in the way when you bend or stoop, and seems to get hung up in the thick stuff.  

IMO there is nothing like a bow quiver that has some sort of angle device for sweeping the arrows back into the bow.  Quick and easy to get an arrow, and really helps stabalize the bow.

Also if you drop your pack to do a final stalk or get into position for a setup, you can easily just drop the pack, grab the bow and your arrows are exactly where you left them.....attached to the bow.

The key IMO is to have the arrows swept back into the profile of the bow, that makes the bow and arrows a "unit" and you can manuver it though thick stuff easier than your pack sometimes.  

Again as stated - ymmv
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Over&Under on March 02, 2011, 09:45:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by yamaharider:
I use a bow quiver too.  As you know,  one should practice with a full quiver on the bow at all times. When hunting, especially elk, you will cover alot of terrian and the situation and area can change so quickly.  Bow quiver keeps it relatively simple.
I second what Barry said, you must practice with the setup you intend to hunt with, especailly if you decide on a bow quiver.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: kadbow on March 02, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
I've hunted elk many a years.  You have to be able to cover ground quick in the thick stuff.  Bow quiver is the only option IMO.  I tried a hip quiver once, it was awful.  Unlike others, I shoot all year without the bow quiver.  Throw it on for hunting season (EFA is my preference) and it just adds a little stability, doesn't effect my shooting at all.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: dan d on March 02, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Stumpkiller:
I can recommend highly the practice of a one-arrow bow quiver.  I still hunt with this arrangement and a side quiver.  That gives me one ready shot and a bunch quickly available.

And the bow is as naked as God intended when you take the shot.     ;)    
Charlie,
  What is the name of that 1 arrow quiver ?  I like that, best of all worlds, arrow is handy, but not all the junk in the trunk !
Dan
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: sawtoothscream on March 02, 2011, 11:47:00 AM
just went stump shooting wth my new bigjim quiver in the thick woods i hunt it. i will never use a hip quiver for it again. no more getting caught on half the stuff.  besides breaking 2 arrows it was a good fun day cause i didnt have to fight with my side quiver
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: Stumpkiller on March 02, 2011, 02:48:00 PM
The sheath is a Solo Stalker from Jack Bower.  The gripper is 1/2 of a Selway PiggyBacker with a 1/8" hole drilled through it for a cord tie.

Three Rivers sells a similar broadhead sheath.

I stole the idea 100% from Dean Torges.

Alaska Bowhunting Supply used to sell a pre-made one-arrow arrangement.
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: ron w on March 02, 2011, 04:20:00 PM
I made a similar one that I used for several years, it worked well!
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: SL on March 02, 2011, 08:50:00 PM
A bow quiver is tough to beat when you have to cover ground
Sl
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: John Dill on March 02, 2011, 11:39:00 PM
Bow quiver for me!!!!!  :D
Title: Re: To quiver or not to quiver that' the question...
Post by: ron w on March 03, 2011, 09:01:00 AM
Gee Mr. Dill ....wonder why....lol! I have one of your strap ons, they do work well. Been eye balling that Slim Jim.......