Trad Gang

After seeing all the great hog hunts over these cold winter months and after having a chance meeting with a guy who owns a little hunting operation in Arkansas, I jumped in with both feet on a hunt this past weekend. I rounded up the usual suspects to go along with my little hunt, and after some changes to the line-up the last week we set out for SW Arkansas.

The outfitter had never had spot and stalk bowhunters before, and since it is big timber property consisting of swamps, hardwood bottoms, and huge pine stands he was more than a little hesitant when we told him our plan to find these wary critters in such huge country on foot. He has about 30,000 acres of access and usually uses currs to bay the hogs and standard issue pit bulls to hold them in place. We were not interested in any "holding" but agreed that if we could not get it done with stalking, working a bay would be okay if the pig was not held and had freedom to run us over or run away as we tried to get a shot. For those of you who do not like the concept of baying dogs to hunt pigs, then my apologies, this thread is not for you. The rules of engagement were drawn with the guide and each of us 3 traditional bowhunters were given a huge tract of land to try and find a pig or two. It consisted of big swamps, high ridges of some of the thickest saw-tooth briars and river cane. Intimidating and beautiful at the same time.

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good looking area there for getting you some hoggs, how did it turn out?

The guide had some serious country to hunt. After telling him about our plans a month earlier I was suprised at how quickly he got what we wanted to do. I had told him I wanted to find fresh sign and be turned loose. We would be doing dark-to-dark hunts on our own with water, an MRE for lunch, and a radio in case we needed help. Otherwise, we were on our own to roam about the country. He dropped me out on one of the numerous clay/sand logging roads on some fresh rooting sign. It was up to me to make it happen. My other two mates were dropped off at similar spots with smokin' hot sign of their own.

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It wasn't a 1/4 mile before I heard pigs feeding, rooting, squealing in the thick bottom timber. The swilring wind did me in as I approached from what I thought was a good position. Just like that they were gone! Those hogs were super noisy one minute, fairly stalkable, then quietly slipped away in a flash. I couldn't believe it and stood in awe of those awesome critters.

Cool!! Don't "lamb" this too much  :)

I like the way you think.......is there anymore to the story??

I can't wait for the rest.

Oh yes gents more is on it's way  :)  Will try and get it going. I will most likely be the sole story teller as my other trad brothers on this trip are a little shy about posting...if I don't do the story justice they can chime in and set me straight   :campfire:

Nice read, can't wait for more.

Well after my blown stalk I put a couple of miles in glassing and exploring the bottom/swamp. I tell ya, for a country boy from Illinois by way of West Tennessee, this was a vast, wild place. I have been to elk country many times, and the shear size of the American west is something else. The changes in contour here, and the way it went from pine stands to swamp was just as amazing.

In my travels I came upon more pig sign, rooting, scratching posts, and a stinky wallow. I built myself a little ground blind, ate my MRE and waited out the mid-day in my little nest.
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At about 2 pm I gathered my gear and set out for a bottom nearby. Big open hardwoods with plenty of pig sign. While glassing something came into my peripheral vision about a hundred yards away...

:campfire:    :coffee:

I'll get back to my visitor but first a little about my equipment  :)  

I have a new Stalker longbow with beautiful woods, antler nobs and a Kanati quiver. This was her maiden voyage. I told myself any legal critter would be in trouble. I took lots of chances to photo this beauty in such great background. Here's little eye candy Southern style.

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Ok so out of my peripheral I see another hunter...slipping and sliding like me, head erect, eyes forward. I couldn't believe here I was 3 miles in a swamp and another hunter was there. So I did what I should have: I acted like prey to try and share a moment with a fellow predator.

Some cool looking land right there! Looks like a fun area to track down a pig!

good story and pictures thanks for sharing looking forward to more.....

Beautiful bow and matching quiver!

The hunter heard my little pig squeal and smacking to mimic what she had been hunting. I had seen plenty of coyote scat with pig hair in it. When my normal mouse squeek didn't get her interested I took a chance and made a sound like a pig that I do with my little girl when I am goofing off with her.

To my suprise the big 'ol coyote perked her ears up and trotted right to me. At 18 yards she stopped and gave me a full frontal chest shot that I took gladly. Some may not like this angle, but with coyotes I think you get that more times than not. Although I had never taken a 'yote with a longbow I felt comfortable with a 680 arrow and heavy Ace standard broadhead. She ducked slightly at the shot and the arrow entered her neck and angled into the goods of the heart/lungs. She was down within 30 yards. Her cape was taken care of after taking my time admiring such a beautiful predator. It will be tanned and kept sacred as the first (and perhaps last) coyote I took with my longbow.

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Congrats Mike, great story.  You'll have that for as long as you live.

great Hunt and ending thanks for sharing brother, congrats!

Way to go Mike! Congrats!  :thumbsup:

Thanks fellas...but I have a pig story to tell here too   :bigsmyl:

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God bless,Mudd

Congrats on the 1st coyote big guy  :readit:     :coffee

Tracy

After caping my yote and working into the wind again (I now smelled like a human and a coyote), I picked my way back towards the road. This was no small task as I had gotten turned around. I picked up my compass, got my heading and worked back to the road. I met some visitors along the way and put a stalk on them. With no deer tag on hand I counted coup and let the band move along in bow range.

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The hunt ended day 1 with my pick up at the road at dark, a good meal of smoked wild pig from another hunters kill from a week ago, and stories (cocktails firmly planted in hand) of the day.

My friend Brock had bumped a bedded hog and got a shot with his Centaur but missed. The other Tradhunter Paul stalked pigs but got cut off by the marsh and had to give up the track. All in all, a good day for a bunch of pig hunting rookies  :)

cool story and congratulations on the Yote. I can appreciate your enthusiasm taking a coyote especially with a bow, I have hunted yote alot but with a gun, they aren't called wiley for nothing.

Well done Mike, get all them yotes out of the woods and pigs got to go also.  Good story, sounds like a great day sir.  Well DONE!!

Cool story!    :thumbsup:

Thank you Tracy...that was some kind of cool I tell ya  :)

Day 2 and we were at it early. The guide's right hand man had us an awesome breakfast made. Too much food really, but a big 'ol boy like me needs his calories. With my drop off point approaching the quad stopped abruptly. Paul the guide said something I had wanted to hear for a long time: BIG BOAR! I slid off the quad and checked the wind. I had a marginal wind and slipped into the timber. The big 'ol boar just rooted and strutted like a stud horse in the timber. When I finally got glass on him he was at 100 yards and in no hurry. He had not seen us on the old logging road and after sending Paul on his way with a wide-eyed nod I started after the boar. I learned later that this was one of the biggest boars that Paul had ever seen in 25 years of hunting pigs   :scared:  

Although in no hurry these pigs walk FAST! Root, root, walk, walk. For me it was all I could do to not run at him or run away. The pace of step, step, glass was killing me, and I think I didn't push it fast enough. He simply walked away from me in the thick stuff. At one point he was only 60 yards or so, and I could see his cutters with my naked eye. I lost him to the thick river cane and managed to snap a last ditch picture.

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I cut his track and remembered the wallow in the direction he was walking. I circled to the wind and sat the wallow awhile, walked a mile or so looking for pigs with no success and returned to the wallow for an hour or so until dark. It was like trying to make Boo Radley come out. Nothing. Darkness. But what a stinkin' day that was thinking there was a boar that big nearby. He had big feet anyway  :)  
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Pig hunting and a coyote hunt broke out!! That is outstanding!  A trophy indeed with trad gear.  :thumbsup:

Dang! Im gonna have to throw you in my hero pile if you keep this business up.Thats a pretty yote. I saw your bow on the stalker site, shes fine too.

After returning to the cabin and meeting with my other trad brothers we decided that with only a half-day left we would try baying some hogs in the morning. They too had a great hunt, both seeing pigs the night before. There is a reason these seasoned hog hunters say that a wild pig is the smartest critter in the woods...plus they are just tough!

After a steak the size of my head and all the fixins' (and a cocktail or two) we declared bayed hogs were gonna be hard, too. The guide was nervous about sending some greenhorns in on an alert pig with a stickbow. What happens is that a curr dog tracks the pig or pigs and bays them, barking loudly and circling them at 20 feet or so. Many times the pigs break and run for miles and it is a hell of a chase. Under normal cicumstances the pig is "held" by a pit bull and then either caught/transported live or killed. In our case there would be no "hold". We would try to slide in there and put an arrow in a pig with the bayed dog either called or comfortably out of the way. The only added thing was that the guide wanted to bring a hold dog to within a couple hundred yards in case we got in trouble. Fair enough I think...

A curr...our friend on this trip and one heck of a fearless old boy.
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A "hold" dog...just in case a pig tried to un-zip us.
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Great story. I`ve never killed a yote and want to bad. I have shot a few warning shots at them though...Congrats,RC

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Mike,
Are you related to Les Davenport by chance?  He's a writer friend of mine from southern IL.  Just curious.

Awesome, bro.

Thanks

Gilbert

After a quad ride through rougher country than my wife ever needs to know about, and after getting thrown off the darn thing (I was a little overly enthusiastic on the throttle on a hill) the other curr got nosy. Soon after he was cut loose he bayed. 3 trad bowhunters, a guide, and a pit-bull went up the hill. We came down changed men I tell ya.

The black-mouthed curr...fearless.
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The above pictured curr had a hog bayed alright...he had 12 sows and a giant boar. We snuck to within 40 yards and asked the guide what to do. I'll never forget the look and what he said "Nothin. You go in there or I let this dog go and the dogs will get killed and we will get it." OK I thought. I'm good with that. Head-high river cane, a peed off boar hog and a bunch of angry sows...I was looking for a tree to climb but inch thick river cane is no good for a dude 6'3", 230. Just like that they broke and lucky for us the boar exited the opposite side of the stage. The curr was relentless and picked a fat sow out. The chase was on and this time a solo pig was bayed...the rest broke free and I can say that I was happy about that
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Cool! It is just amazing what those dogs are willing to do to seal the deal at the end! That little Pit Bull looks like he has tangled with a Boar before.

Well my two friends were to take the first shots. I hope that they will chime in with their own details, but to keep the story going I will fill you in. Too many cooks spoil a good thing, so I stayed back with the hold dog and the guide. I had mixed feelings on this but I knew it was right. I didn't want to shoot but I wanted to be there with my pals. After a few minutes the curr returns and I hear a war hoop. One sow down and what a big 'ol girl. They have better photos to share at some point but I will never forget them dragging that first sow out of that bottom  :)

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The bay happened again a short time after and once again a sow was down. I again held back with the back-up waiting my turn. The load the boys were carrying says it all.

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We crossed creeks, saw-tooth patches, and river-cane that swallows you up. It was as primal and fun as I think is legal. We were bloodied and sore (at least I was. I got a couple of cracked ribs for my silly quad stunt) but we had smiles all around.

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Niiice!,thanks for sharing these great pics

Awesome story and pics!

Finally after getting a final bay I was up. Once, twice, thrice I approached the sow with an arrow nocked and each time she'd pop her jaws and run. I made the mistake of saying something and the curr thought I was calling him off. The old sow took this as a sign and dashed by me...close. The brave old dog took after her again and looked back at me with a look of disgust. He had done his job 3 times and all 3 times I dropped the ball. Finally he bayed her against a step ledge over the Little Missouri River. I slipped in with an arrow nocked and found a little window. Full draw, anchor, then launch...the arrow was perfect up until it clipped a branch and rocketed harmlessly into the river. With that the pig jumped into the river and swam the 100 yards across to a place we could not go. The curr went in after her and we called him back. I watched as the sow climbed the ledge and the dog swam back to us...she deserved that freedom. I am almost glad I mmmmmmissed...I said almost  :)

I will never be the same after this hunt. I respect those dogs so much, and pigs more. For me it ended right. My boys got pigs, I killed my own trophy, I stalked a boar as big as a voltzwagen, and I got to witness a 200 pound pig swim a river like Michael Phelps. You go girl...see you next year   :campfire:  

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thanks for sharing . It's real fun making great memories.

Cool story and pics Mike, thanks for sharing!!!

Awesome story!

Man that looks like fun!

I do love hog hunting!!!!

Great story and pics!!  Congrats on the yote!!

Geez buddy, That was awesome!!!  You tell a great tale my friend.  Congrats on a great hunt    :clapper:

Great tell, Michael! It looks like a great place to chase hogs. Congratulations on your success.   :clapper:

Awesome story and pictures. You came away with your own trophy and a hatful of memories. Thanks for sharing that with us.

From the ground to. Are you serious. Nice work Mike.

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Great adventure, and with 5he photos it shows how tpugh the hunt was.

So has the outfitter been converted to catering to Traditional hunters?

If I missed it, sorry...location?

typing from my phone...should be "with the photos it shows how tough the hunt was..."

Your story got my hands shaking!

Whoooowheeee! What a hunt! Man does that get the blood to a boil. Good work and first time hog hunting. Sounds like the dogs were a big part of it. I like how you didn't use the Pbull to hold them. Slipping around is good, but the dogs seem to be better. And you're with the dogs. I'm going to be thinking about this for a while.

Thanks everyone! I appreciate the comments and am happy you enjoyed the hunt   :campfire:

Very nice story Mike,thanks again for sharing.

nice story, awesome stuff

Great story!

Thanks for the story and pics.Congrats on the coyote,and as far as chasing pigs with dogs,Ilove it,pure excitement.
Leland

Great story. Thanks for sharing.

Really enjoyed the story and pictures!  That sounds like some wild country.  Congratulations on your great looking coyote!

Bernie Bjorklund
NC Iowa/ SW Wisconsin
48# Spirit longbow
45# Martin Hunter recurve

Great job on the coyote. I'm dying to get one with my bow. Sounds like you had a great hunt. Isn't it wild watching those dogs hunt? They sure love it as much as us. I really like those black mouth curs too but pitbulls will always hold my heart. Unfortunately pits won't baythe hogs they just charge right in afraid of nothing on earth. Thanks for posting.

Mint those dogs were the nicest dogs around. I petted and played with both pits and the currs, but when the collars came on and I strung my bow they were ALL bidness! They simply want to please and they love their job. Both of those pits were rescued from the pound on their last day on earth, then trained into being workhorses...and my protectors should my arrow go astray and the fury of wild pig is opened up   :thumbsup:

Good stuff Mike!

Yeah, they are great dogs. The best dog i ever had was rescued from a ghetto thug that was fighting them. I had her for 14 years and she loved everyone. I have a pit mix now that I got from a shelter. Someone threw her away in a dumpster when she was 5 weeks old. At two years old she is becoming a great dog and loves everyone.

1st rate story telling and great pics.

Congrats to everyone!!

Great story!  Congrats to you and your buddies.  What a great adventure.  sounds like the guy you met has quite a spot.

A most excellent adventure! Thanks for taking us along.

This was a great story and pics   :thumbsup:  
Thanks for taking us a long!

Margly

Taking a coyote has got to be one of the top accomplishments in trad bowhunting. Well done.
Excellent story and pics.

Sounds like you had a great time.  Thanks for sharing.

Great story.. well done!

What a great hunt Mike...  Next time since ya have to come right by my house let me know... LOL

Those dogs are something to watch...

Looks like you guys had a heck of a hunt. Great story and pics; thanks for sharing!

Awesome. Thanks for sharing   :thumbsup:

Great job Mike, that was cool!!

Great story a pics. Congrats to all hunters.

I think taking a coyote with traditional equipment is an incredible accomplishment. Great job!

Awesome story telling Mike!  Congratulations on the trophy, sir, as well!    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:

Really nice stuff here. I must have missed the pics 1st time around. Great job. I'm an Ace fan too. Nice bow also.

Well done Mike!! Great story!
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Were you hunting in Camden? I used to hunt deer in the area WMA.  Great story and looks like you and buds were successful.

Great story my Stalker brother! I love pits and other dogs, and I think I would like to hunt hogs. Wasn't sure I would like a dog-n-hog hunt but your story made it seem real and ethical and fun as hell!!! Congrats on the yote too. I watched Deliverance when it first came out, and squealing like a pig still has a negative, sick to my stomach, sound      :eek:  Again, great story and fantastic memories made. Thanks for sharing.

Great story that was really told well!  I would echo owlbait about the dog and hog apprehension but this looked great.  Those are some big hogs. Nice looking yote as well and I would agree that is an accomplishment.
Chris

Well told Mike. You know how to tell a story. Great work on awesome trophies.

WOW Mike...great story! Congrats on your amazing adventure....Ryan

Thanks for the great tale and congrats on your first Yote. Very nice looking pelt on her.

That was fun to read. Thanks for sharing

Sounds like you had another great hunt Mike! Very good job relating the story too!

I think we all dream of a hunt like this... glad you got to experience it!!! Nice work!

"craziness that was"
Now I know what you meant!  ;)    Awesome story along with some great pics!

Good going bro!

Aloha!
Ryan

Great read. I live vicariously. Nice pics to boot.

Mike, that was awesome!  Thank you for sharing the experience with us!

Congrats to all!!!

You know it Ryan  :)  

Thanks again my friends. I just finshed making sausage and cuts out of the "Wood Hogs" as the locals call them with my hunting mates. We cooked some as we were working and it is just plain awesome to eat!

OK...let's see a few questions and comments to reply to: the outfitter has a positive opinion of trad bowhunters. I have not followed up with him but will regarding other hunters yet though. He was open to it, it worked well, but I am unsure until I speak with him whether he'd have me back. Lord I hope so  ;)  We showed up and hunted hard and I think that he is open to anyone that takes hunting as serious as most of us trad guys. Some restraint by the hunter by not charging in and taking risks is most important. Knowing when to hold 'em and fold 'em is a must on the bowhunters behalf anyway, but especially when the well-being of the dog, yourself, and others are at stake with something that can do some damage like one of those pigs.

The hunt, both stalking on your own and hunting with the bay dogs takes some pretty physical work on your part. If an elk hunt is an 8 on a 0-10 scale, then this is a near 7. You have to have some woods skills and you have to be able to cover some ground should the dogs bay. Also, some of the distances when running the currs have to be covered by quad and some skill there is important. I was weak in that regard  :)  

The hunts really are an October to March type thing. Some of the places are snake heavy and they are particular about their dogs and hunters being in some of those places walking blindly. Summer is the off season for sure. They also try and respect deer hunters that either lease ground with them or are a part of other leases. The bulk of their work is done in Jan/Feb.

Well I think I covered what was asked. My opinion about hunting behind dogs has changed, too. I respect those animals so much and next time I will reward that dog with making the shot for his closure of the chase   :archer:

Awesome story! An expirence of many should try by the sounds of it.

Thanks again

What a great story!!!

Congrats to all!

A great effort, rewarded, no doubt!!!  :thumbsup:  

Thanks for taking us along.  :campfire:

Great story and pics really enjoyed this one.  Still waiting to get my yote.LOL

Good story!  :thumbsup:


The yote is a trophy to charish,thier smart little buggers!

GREAT STORY....I GUESS WOULD EPITOMIZE WHAT A GOOD HOG HUNT SHOULD BE....THANKS FOR SHARING../

Great story that hunt will be stuck in the memory bank for a long time thanks for sharing

Kill them all, dang turkey and rabbit killa!

thankyou for the great storie.I will take this over T.V anyday.

Awsome. Great job on the coyote.

Where in Southwest Arkansas were you hunting?  Was it around the Saline River bottoms north of Lake Millwood in Howard and Sevier Counties?

cool beans, great hunt

Thanks for sharing what a pleasant and rewarding experience it can be hunting with dogs. and for showing it`s not shooting fish in a barrel. Great shot on the coyote, I to have scared a couple

Hawgon, near Chidester AR. That place is just beautiful. Welcome to Tradgang by the way! Honored to be part of your first post   :campfire:

Thanks for the welcome.

Chidester is very close to just being South Arkansas as opposed to Southwest Arkansas and I wasn't thinking about it being that far over there when I was trying to figure out where you might have gone.

Thanks for sharing....sounds like you might be 'hooked'.

Terry, I am so "hooked" it ain't even funny  :)

Sure looks like you had a good time. Great thread!!!

Thanks !! Really enjoyed this one.

Sorry guys im just now gettin to the computer. Mike has already told the story, sorry bud for not chippin in. I can say that was a awsome experience. The terrain was like nothing i have ever seen. I was smiling every mile i walked as the biggest ciprus trees i have ever seen stood. We all hunted very hard for two days, then we called in the troops. As mike said, those dogs love what they do, and i now have full respect for there job. It was a awsome experience. Just to say about the dogs, we hunted for two days hard, and on our last day we took them. IT gave me a whole new respect for the pig and the dog. Mike found that out as he over throttled, sorry to keep rubbing it in bud. I got a pig and it was not easy, those saw briars are nasty. My first pig was awsome, and let me tell you, it is very tasty. My first hog hunt and wont be my last, i cant wait to do it all again.

Great trip and wonderful story.

Thank you for taking me along.

I cooked up some this fine "Wood Hog" for my wife and family last night. Made a little homeade spagetti sauce and giant wild pig meatballs with a parm cheese and oregano mixed into the meat. All I can say is that I've got the greenlight for another hog hunt from the boss-lady next year   :)  

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I really enjoyed reading about your hunt. Great pictures and an unique experience hunting with dogs and bows.

Question: How far away(yards) was the dog from the hog,once it was bayed? I was trying to picture the shot angle..Thanks.

Really enjoy it ! thank you !!!

Bill, The dogs would either be called back and you would have no dog in the picture or if they were around the closest I saw them was about 20 yards. Of the 2 other bays we had where shots were taken both times the dog was already headed back to the guide. On my shot the dog stayed out of the way at about 25 yards barking, keeping the hog interested. I moved in to take my shot at about 18 or 20 yards.

Great read, gotta respect the dogs, I have carried out a few of them after they tangled with a hog, buried a few as well, stitched up many others. Have done a bit hogs and dogs in the past (no pics as wheelie pics).

Think everyone should experience it at least once.

Jason

Great story. Just wish i hadn't been the last week changes in it!!!!!

Radical!!!! Thanks for bringing me along through your story.

:thumbsup:  Congrats! Nice story and pics! I've done the same thing with dogs and it's seldom easy. Dogs will usally bay them in the thickest places possible.

Wow!  That's a heck of an accomplishment with a bow, but with a longbow, my hat is off to you!

A yote in my opinion is the smartest critter roaming the woods!

Awesome!

Congratulations on a wonderful hunt!
Also enjoyed the way you wrote it.......Bravo

Nice pics, good story, and great trophy.

Story time.

Cool hunt Mike! Congrats on the coyote, that's an amazing trophy/memory.

Thanks for bringing this one back up Izzy!  Great read.

Absolutely awesome story thank you so much for sharing and awesome work killing a yote with you longbow ...GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT!

Good Read. Glad this got brought back up.

Man, I wanna go back! Those hogs eat good and are a fun hunt no matter where you are. Thanks for bringing it back up Izzy. Great memories    :campfire:

I'm slipping -  totally missed seeing this until now!
Congratulations Mike.  Beautiful yote!   And a couple of great looking hogs.   That was quite an adventure and a story well told.  Thanks for sharing!

Great hunt and big congrats all around.

Thanks for sharing

What an awesome story and congrats to all 3 of you, memories and trophies from a great hunt.

Cool story, glad y'all had a good trip!

That was a great story and hunt.  Congrats to all the fun you had.