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Title: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: TimberBound on January 11, 2007, 07:38:00 PM
I have a question about the kind of draw weight I could get out of a standard 1 by 2 that you get out of a hardware store, the kind that isn’t actually 1 inch by 2 inches but is really a bit smaller. Do those kind of oak boards have enough depth (from belly to back) to make a rigid handle bow slightly under 2 inches wide at the handle tapering to about ½ inch nocks with a ntn length of about 70 inches and a draw weight between 50 and 60 pounds at 28 inches? Basically, is a slightly under 1 inch thickness at the end of the fades enough material to tiller out a 50-60 pound bow of the above given dimensions?

Thanks a lot,

Timberbound
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: Keith Deters on January 11, 2007, 07:42:00 PM
Yes you can.
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: TimberBound on January 11, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
Thanks for the reply. How thin (roughly) should the limbs be at the fades and the tips in order to make a 50-60 pound 70 inch bow?

Timberbound
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: Pat B on January 11, 2007, 09:39:00 PM
Check out Jawge's of Ferret's site for all the info you'll need to make a bow with the lumber you have(if the grain is OK,aye Jawge?).
   Pat
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: TimberBound on January 11, 2007, 10:56:00 PM
Yeah, I've been to both of their websites, and there is a lot of good stuff in there all right, but what I'm looking for is actual thicknesses, which I can't find on their sites. Everybody says how wide their selfbow is, but no one says how thick it is. I know that it is totally dependent on how that particular peice of wood tillers, but can anyone measure the thickness of their selfbow at the end of the fades and at the tip and post those measurements? It would be of great help to me.

Thanks,

Timberbound
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 11, 2007, 11:49:00 PM
Having made over 100 wood bows I can say that every piece of wood is different and any measurements will be general. My bows have around 3/4" thickness at the fades and 1/2" at the tips. This is a round belly bow. Looking at a flat belly bamboo backed osage bow I have close at hand, it is 1/2" at the fades and 3/8" thick at the tips.
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: TimberBound on January 12, 2007, 09:33:00 AM
Thank you Eric, that was exactly what I needed! Thanks a lot,

Timberbound
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: tim-flood on January 12, 2007, 01:22:00 PM
there is a Tim Baker "First Bow" article in the how to section you should take a look at especially for a first bow.
you start with a home depot 1x2 red oak board that costs about $6.00.
 http://tradgang.com//noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000043
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: Lost Arra on January 12, 2007, 01:57:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by TimberBound:
I have a question about the kind of draw weight I could get out of a standard 1 by 2 that you get out of a hardware store,
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,1370.0.html

Probably not his first board bow.   :)
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: TimberBound on January 12, 2007, 06:03:00 PM
That bow would have packed quite a punch Lost arra! I knew about Tim Baker's bow directions, and they have also really helped me. I guess I just wanted to get some real final measurements to help me know what I'm looking at.

TimberBound
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: flntknp17 on January 12, 2007, 10:06:00 PM
You'll be amazed at what kind of weight you can get out of a 1x2x72 oak lumberyard board!  I have one out in the garage that was the first full size bow I ever built.....it pulls 73# at 28" and is only about 62" long.  It started out as a 1x2x72 from the hardware store and I tillered it, and then kept cutting it down 'till I got the weight I wanted (at the time!).  No need to back an oak board if the grain is OK.

Matt
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: poekoelan on January 14, 2007, 03:27:00 PM
I think ( could be wrong ) that the maximum draw weight will have alot to do with the late wood / early wood ratio. A really dense one could make a very heavy bow, but if the stave has a lot of early wood, it might not make a bow as heavy as you are wanting.

I've made a few bows from red oak 1x2s ( they are all bendy handles though ) and the thickness varies on them. I've noticed that the dense ones are noticably thinner when finished.
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: ishiwannabe on January 14, 2007, 04:20:00 PM
Can anyone recommend a detailed book and or video for a wanna-be bowyer? Red oak boards from Home Depot huh...any suggestions as to what to look for in a board and what to avoid?
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: poekoelan on January 15, 2007, 02:14:00 AM
The Traditional Bowyer's Bibles. Volume 1 covers the essential stuff and volume 2 covers boards. Best books I ever read in my life.
Title: Re: question about bow lumber--need help
Post by: ishiwannabe on January 15, 2007, 10:36:00 AM
Great...thanks. Checking out this site showed me Im not ready to make one yet. Much to learn.