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Title: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Swiper on February 12, 2011, 02:15:00 AM
My ten year old son wants to go turkey hunting for the first time but refuses to use a shotgun! lol

He is pulling back 35lbs. Do you fellows believe this is enough poundage to make a clean kill on a mature bird?

He is very accurate out to 15 yards..
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on February 12, 2011, 05:30:00 AM
Close enough...get him out there and encourage him!
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Lechwe on February 12, 2011, 06:12:00 AM
Put a good sharp broadhead on and he'll do fine. Encourage him. At that age I was all about the kill and didn't care how it got done. Your son is way ahead of where most boys are his age.

Good for him!  :clapper:
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: CavScoutArcher on February 12, 2011, 06:18:00 AM
x2 with the sharp broadhead and he won't have a problem. Awesome that he favors a bow over a scatter gun!
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Post by: djohnson on February 12, 2011, 06:32:00 AM
Two blade head,blind,decoy...no problem. Enjoy the moment together.
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Orion on February 12, 2011, 09:26:00 AM
It will get the job done, but I'd recommend a head shot.  Here's why.  The head is almost large as the heart/lung kill zone on a turkey. Hit the turkey in the head with a broadhead and it's lights out.  Not necessarily so with a body shot.  Turkeys are relatively light animals, compared to a deer, for example.  When an arrow hits them, their bodies move with the impact, lessening the penetration of the arrow.  Also, their feathers have a cushioning effect, not to mention the ability of the large feather quills to considerably slow an arrow. A perfectly placed body shot will likely make it into the vitals and kill the bird, but with that weight bow, which probably means a pretty light arrow as well, I think a head shot increases your odds.  Good luck.
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Bowwild on February 12, 2011, 10:14:00 AM
I'm in 100% agreement with Orion.  That turkey's head will be quite alergic to your son's set-up!

From personal experience I recommend you and the youngster talk about shot placement.  

On my first bow-kill turkey I was fully intending to shoot the head. The shot was only 15 yards, if that far. But, at full-draw the head looked so small compared to the HUGE body (all those feathers) and I REALLY wanted that bird. So I shot for my secondary spot, just above the thigh which is better than the wing butt (larger vitals behind the thigh).

My story turned out fine, I killed the bird and he didn't go more than 15 yards or so. But, I'd stick with the head shot now.  While aiming at the head/neck can easily produce a miss and even a wound, I think the odds are better for a quick, clean kill or a complete miss than trying to imagine innard anatomy under all those feathers.  If he can be content with a clean kill or a clean miss, then he is LIGHT YEARS ahead of folks 4-6 times his age!

Somebody in your household is providing a mighty fine example ...good for ya!
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: $bowhunter$ on February 12, 2011, 11:01:00 AM
35lbs will be plenty with a good sharp broadhead. let him get out there and chase some birds!
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: tecum-tha on February 12, 2011, 01:47:00 PM
I think especially an arrow with a gobbler guiotine or probably better a Magnus Bullhead is the better choice. Although #35 is enough, I think the turkey head is like a small black spot on a target, even when you closely miss the spot the headshot broeadhead will give you a clean kill. If you hit the body solid, the feathers will probably just make the arrow bounce off. Feathers are like armour.
Build him a target, where he can train this shot.
A large black body, a whitish neck and a red head.As the neck I would use a rolled piece of paper and a small ball as the head. Best shot is right in the middle of the neck.
The paper roll can be replaced easily and cheaply and he will see the effect of his shots. Another part is giving him a narrative of events to force him to shoot at the right moment. Shot timing is one of the most overlooked training factors... Just my 2 cents..
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: doug77 on February 12, 2011, 04:02:00 PM
My daughter will also be turkey hunting this spring with her bow and she wil be useing a Magnus Bullhead. I'm hopeing for a dead bird or a clean miss.

doug77
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: chanumpa on February 12, 2011, 04:07:00 PM
Like the part about that he refuses to use the shotgun!Those ol toms dont have achance against that boy.
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Guru on February 12, 2011, 06:33:00 PM
Ideal no, but I think with a nice close shot and a well tuned arrow of good weight for his set-up, and a good 2 bl. head he'll do just fine...just stay off the wing butt!

As for a "bullhead" type head...I've seen enough evidence on videos and stories posted here that they don't work very well at all with lightweight bows(in the 40's).  I'd stay away from those with such a light set-up.

Shots to the back will do the trick!

Good luck!
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: RC on February 12, 2011, 09:02:00 PM
I agree with Guru and .....Biggie. RC
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Post by: joebuck on February 12, 2011, 09:18:00 PM
I agree with RC .. :) .      go for it.
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Friend on February 12, 2011, 09:25:00 PM
Take your dekes.

My son took his second shot of the day last spring and zipped thru my DSD with his WW. If he hadn't of scored and 1 1/2 hrs later he would have still had a nice trophy.
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on February 12, 2011, 10:02:00 PM
Yes
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: OS on February 12, 2011, 10:18:00 PM
I agree take him! :-)  I would normally recommend a large 3 blade, with the light poundage a good sharp 2bl would do the best job for you.  I also agree with Guru I like a good body shot over aiming for the head, it just moves a lot.
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: TxAg on February 13, 2011, 12:21:00 AM
I think it's plenty. Give those turkeys heck!
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: cacciatore on February 13, 2011, 08:04:00 AM
Your son is very etic and wise!Good luck on your hunt!
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Bowmania on February 13, 2011, 12:31:00 PM
Use a string tracker.  Put your decoys out at 15 yds and you'll get a 20 yd shot.  Put 'em at 10 and you get a 12 yarder.  I put one at 3 and another at 5.  I can hit a feather at 8 yds.
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Swiper on February 13, 2011, 02:06:00 PM
Thanks for all of the replies.. He is so exited and on turn I am very proud if him. I making a target for him now. I am going to out some pics up as we go along and train for this little adventure.
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: JamesKerr on February 13, 2011, 02:37:00 PM
x2 for the head shots with a head like the bullhead
Title: Re: 35lbs Enough for Turkey?
Post by: Bowwild on February 13, 2011, 03:57:00 PM
This is what I'm practicing on as I get ready for NE and KY.

As you can see this bird got away several times but this particular group of 7 arrows would have worked 6 times. (Chastain Wapiti, Beman MFX 600's with 100 grain field tip --Bullhead later -- arrow weight 415 grains). My range is only 13 yards.

(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/LRTurkeyTargetbyChastain.jpg)