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Title: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Enumclawarcher on February 11, 2011, 09:00:00 PM
Hellow guys, this is my first time here so be gentle. I am a long time compound shooter looking to transition to traditional archery and was looking for a new forum that more closely fits my new passion. So here I am. Although I have many questions my first would be what are the differences I should look at when deciding between a long bow and a recurve. My primary activities with the bow will be recreational target/3-D.
Thanks,  :archer2:
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on February 11, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
A recurve will be the closet to a compound (Handle) 45-50 draw weight at Your draw length. A good T/D will be a good bet because You can get lighter or heavier limbs as Your form gets better You can up the draw weight.

Look in the Classifieds and try and look for IFL bow. This will help in getting different weight limbs for it.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: eflanders on February 11, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
mysticguido's advice is sound.  I may the switch awhile back and followed that advice.  My one other comment would be is that if possible, go to a traditional show and shoot as many different bows you can.  Each bow even from the same maker will feel different but even more so than when comparing compounds.  Different wood combinations used, different grip styles and other things really stand out with the traditional stuff vs. the mass produced compounds.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: cyred4d on February 11, 2011, 09:49:00 PM
Good advice there. I second going to a trad event and try as many as you can. What I like you may not.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: jim/wa on February 11, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
there is a trad shoot  in enumclaw  feb 19at flint tip archers
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: JRY309 on February 11, 2011, 10:09:00 PM
Try shooting both if you can to see what you like.When I switched many years ago I wanted to shoot longbows,so I started with them and have always preferred longbows.Personal preference for me,I do have a couple of vintage recurves I play around with.But for me longbows are my favorite to shoot!
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Enumclawarcher on February 11, 2011, 10:12:00 PM
Thanks Jim, Thats in my backyard. Is there a place where they post trad show dates/time in WA?
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: COLongbow on February 11, 2011, 10:15:00 PM
Welcome!
Find as many bows to shoot as possible before making a purchase. One man's classified fodder is another man's Holy Grail. Use the search function..a gold mine.

For me, it came down to observing basic guidelines and finding a GRIP that felt like it made the bow an extension of my arm. Can't say I've found the HG yet but my LC is pretty darn close.

You'll find that any trad guys you can hook up with are very willing to put their prized bow in your hands for a test run. Very amicable bunch.

Lots of other more qualified guys and gals will chime in with good advice, I'm sure.

All I know is once you go trad, there's no going back to the gadget world!
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: straitera on February 11, 2011, 10:31:00 PM
MystG makes a very good point if you like recurves. You did say for 3-d mostly which could limit to one bow. Trouble is, we all know that's not possible. Visit as many as you can before dropping the bling. LB's only here for a good while after years w/recurves.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: boznarras on February 12, 2011, 12:55:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Enumclawarcher:
Thanks Jim, Thats in my backyard. Is there a place where they post trad show dates/time in WA?
If you go to forum home here and then scroll down to the "State Trad Bowhunting Orgs" you will see one listed for WA state. You might check that and also post there asking about WA events.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Rooselk on February 12, 2011, 01:06:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Enumclawarcher:
Thanks Jim, Thats in my backyard. Is there a place where they post trad show dates/time in WA?
Go to the Traditional Bowhunters of Washington website:

http://www.tbwonline.org/

The dates and locations of the various trad shoots can be found there.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Longbowz on February 13, 2011, 01:07:00 AM
Enumclawarcher,

Yes check out the Washington forum on this site and come to the shoots at Flinttip and other places.  Many people there who are more then willing to help you and let you shoot their bows.  

Pretty soon you will be addicted like the rest of us.    :archer2:
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Rob DiStefano on February 13, 2011, 08:32:00 AM
welcome to trad, pilgrim.  :wavey:

you may find benefit in clicking on the 'new to trad archery?' link in my sig line.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: oldbohntr on February 13, 2011, 07:52:00 PM
Enumclaw archer:  come on over to the Traditional Bowhunters of WA Moses Lake "Rock Shoot" in April. It's a lot of fun and there are tons of bows there, some at dealers and many just for sale in the shooter's camps.  I'm sure many of the folks would be happy to let you take some shots with their bows and to point out why they chose that particular one.  

Welcome!
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Swamp Yankee on February 13, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
All good answers here; but back to your original question.  A recurve will make the transition a little easier, and in most cases, is easier to shoot well than a longbow.  Just to add a little confusion to the choice, there really are two kinds of "longbows"; the more traditional straight limb and straight handle "Hill" type, and a more contemporary shorter RD (reflex-deflex) type with a handle that shoots more like a recurve than the traditional longbow.

All that said, for TARGET shooting, I'd suggest something more along the lines of a 40# recurve to start out.  You can find a decent one at auction for $100 - $200 to start.  The big advantage of that 40# bow is you can focus on developing your form without having to spend a lot of time developing the strength to come to full draw and shoot as many arrows as you do shooting targets.  If you decide to stick with it, you'll have a little experience to help decide what you want in your next bow.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Al33 on February 13, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
More sound advice I cannot give than has already been given, but I will warn you now, chances are good after you do select your first trad bow, re-curve or longbow, it will not be long before you have several of both. You will also find yourself going to the classifieds forum first when signing on here.   :D
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Enumclawarcher on February 14, 2011, 12:40:00 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys, oldbohntr I am looking forward to the Rock Shoot sounds fun..

I am looking forward to my first longbow..
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on February 14, 2011, 01:13:00 AM
Where are you located in Washington? I'm just south of Portland Oregon about 30 minutes. you are more that welcome to come by my shop any time. i can let you shoot a bunch of different designs in both recurve and long bows, and share a few must go to shoots coming up around our area...  Kirk
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Enumclawarcher on February 14, 2011, 07:07:00 PM
Thanks Kirk. I am by Seattle I would love to come by your shop next time i'm down there.
I shot this weekend with my son.(compound)Can't wait till this weekend to go to the Frozen Fletch and hopfully get to play around with a long bow or two.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: xtrema312 on February 14, 2011, 07:28:00 PM
I would reinforce trying as may options as you can at shops, shoots, and other trad events.  All I would add to what has been said is to take a look at the metal ILF riser options.  That would be real close to a compound, allow you to try different grips and limbs.  It would also allow some draw weight adjustments so you could start out lower in draw weight and still get some extra weight without a limb change.
Title: Re: Recurve versus Longbow
Post by: Winterhawk1960 on February 14, 2011, 07:32:00 PM
Enumclawarcher,

I was in "your shoes" not all that long ago. I have found that personally, I shoot a recurve better than a longbow. That being said, and because no one else has mentioned it yet. I also prefer a "longer" recurve. For me, the longer bows are more "forgiving" than the shorter ones are. My draw-length is a true 29 3/4" and I have only shot three 60" bows that I can shoot without any finger pinch. I know that there are shorter bows that will allow me to draw them, I just haven't had the opportunity to try them out for myself yet.

So many things make a difference to "which one" would be the best for you. I'm a straight-up shooter, I don't cant my bow any at all (In my opinion, this comes from all the years of shooting a compound bow). I also find that I prefer something with some weight to it, so the three-piece takedowns seem to feel more stable and solid in my hand. As has been said, there is no better substitute than getting to some of the trad get-to-gethers and shooting them for yourself. Lots of things are very "comparible" to shooting a compound, FORM is FORM. The biggest thing for me, is getting a clean and consistant release. I have found that shooting three-under makes that a "little easier" for me and just plain "feels better".

If you can find someone that enjoys traditional archery for what it is........and not try to copy ANYONE else. Find what works for you, and work on being "consistant" with EVERYTHING from setting up for the shot, to allowing the arrow to go on it's way. Not everything that anyone recommends will work for everyone, if that were the case.......we ALL would shoot like the world champions do.....or at least I would.

I know that you said that you were mainly interested in shooting 3D and fun shoots, but I'm willing to bet that if you have much "hunting backround" in you that it won't be long before you are carrying whatever you choose in search of wild game.

Winterhawk1960