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Post by: OS on February 01, 2011, 10:41:00 PM
I'm looking for wood shafts that is heavier than POC but not sure how they rate as far as weight go's. I have shot Ash shafts before and they seemed almost to heavy how does Fir shafts fit in there or what other suggestions might anyone have?
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Post by: Spectre on February 01, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Maple is a good heavy wood. Very heavy and tough.
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Post by: Stumpkiller on February 01, 2011, 11:10:00 PM
Fir (Douglas) is just slightly heavier than cedar.  50 grains per shaft or so.

http://surewoodshafts.com/mass%20weight.html
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Post by: Fletcher on February 01, 2011, 11:50:00 PM
Fir may well be the shaft you want.  It runs somewhat heavier on average, but also varies quite a bit in weight from light to heavy.  One of the best things is that fir is a great shooting wood.  It has been my favorite for many years.  What spine and weight are you wanting?
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Post by: lpcjon2 on February 02, 2011, 09:08:00 AM
Mike "grapes" just posted about getting Teak arrows.Now that is what I want to get some info about.That has to be a hard arrow.
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Post by: bigbadjon on February 02, 2011, 09:33:00 AM
Personally I think Douglas Fir is the heaviest wood suitable for an arrow. Maple, pine, hickory, ash, etc just do not maintain their straightness and I don't think the extra weight and toughness is worth the hassle. Of the fir I have used only a couple developed a kink and I like the material. Third best material imo.
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Post by: OS on February 02, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
Fletcher;
Looking for 75 - 80 lbs and would love a finished arrow weight at between 650 & 700grs give or take.  30" arrow and have been shooting a 175 to 200gr. broadhead on my 2219s.  I love the way those arrows perform but would like to get back into some wood arrows.
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Post by: Mike Vines on February 02, 2011, 12:24:00 PM
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Post by: Mike Vines on February 02, 2011, 12:26:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by lpcjon2:
Mike "grapes" just posted about getting Teak arrows.Now that is what I want to get some info about.That has to be a hard arrow.
I have 3 dozen shafts that all range from 710-810 grains @ 30".  I'm making some up right now that are going to have a finished weight close to 850 grains.  For the guys who love to throw a log at their intended target, these would be perfect.  These spine out at 75#, and there is a dozen in the 90-100# spine range.  

They have got to be the prettiest looking arrows I have ever seen.  I am just using a clear coat, because the natural color is simply superb.
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Post by: Shedrock on February 02, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
I agree with bigbadjon, Douglas Fir!
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Post by: Fischman on February 02, 2011, 12:38:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by lpcjon2:
Mike "grapes" just posted about getting Teak arrows.Now that is what I want to get some info about.That has to be a hard arrow.                                                                                                  Been shooting 800+ Grain Hickory logs that shoot great! Mike, where do you get the Teak arrow shafts from, and what do the 90-100 spine shafts weigh?
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Post by: Mike Vines on February 02, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
The 90-100# spined ones weigh 790+ grains.  As for where the wood came from, I had the wood left over from an addition I did, and I then sent out the wood to Alleghany Mountain Arrow Woods to get turned into shafts.  Only half of the shafts I had made were actually able to be made into arrows.  I flexed all the shafts once I got them to check, and out of 79 shafts, I was able to get 35 that made the cut to go on to become arrows.  The grain was just to hard to read, so I threw the dice, and just had to find out what I was going to get.  I think all in all, I did fantastic.  And his price was unbeatable.  If you use your own wood, he charges .25 a shaft.  A pretty good deal if you can read the grain on the wood you have.
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Post by: ripforce56 on February 02, 2011, 01:00:00 PM
Just did up 12 arrows with 75/80 Douglas Fir shafts I bought at K-Zoo from Allegheny Mt Arrow woods, shot them in league last nite they are an excellant shaft, hardly had to straighten any of them, easy to work with too as far as staining and finishing!
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Post by: Mike Vines on February 02, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
Douglas fir is a great arrow wood.  Out of the 3 dozen shafts I have made out of them, not one of them needed to be straightened before or after the arrow building process.
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Post by: snag on February 02, 2011, 01:19:00 PM
OS, I shoot Surewood Shafts that are in the 75# up to 85# spine weight range. Most all of them cut to 29-29.5" bop with 145-160gr tips. They weigh between 585-600grs. Like others have said they are great shafts and the only ones I have bought for some time.
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Post by: Jim Wright on February 02, 2011, 04:35:00 PM
If you contact Surewood shafts and give them a target raw shaft weight they can probably accomodate you. For me, 60-64 lb. 420 grains raw shaft weight sealed with 4 coats of gasket lacquer, 3 five inch parabolics and a 160 gr. head 30" throat of nock to back of point finished out at 640 grains.
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Post by: Jim Wright on February 02, 2011, 04:41:00 PM
I forgot to mention that the guys at Surewood shafts could not be easier to deal with and their Douglas Fir is beautifully grained wood that takes a stain well and is very straight and easy to keep that way.
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Post by: Fletcher on February 03, 2011, 10:30:00 PM
OS, that weight will be right in the middle with Surewood firs.  Piece of cake!
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Post by: OS on February 04, 2011, 10:25:00 AM
I had been leaning toward the Surewood Shafts but at Kzoo saw many different options that I was not familiar with I thought I'd ask.  Thanks everyone.