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Title: Young female archer shows me how to shoot...
Post by: Lee Robinson . on January 29, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
(http://www.protegelongbows.com/courtneyShooting1stLongbow.jpg)

Here is a photo and a video link of my daughter, Courtney, shooting her 1st Protege Longbow. In the photo it looks as if her left eye is closed, but it is not. She is left eye dominant, so even though she is right handed she shoots left handed. This is her 2nd time shooting this bow, but she has been shooting a traditional bow for about 8 months. She has good form overall...so I may sound a bit overbearing in the video but she asked me to point out any room for improvement I see. Typically, she is very static in her release and I have been trying to help her work on pulling off her release in a backwards motion. Other than that, I think her form is outstanding. Once she gets her form down to "natural reaction" we will then begin working on her accuracy, but check out her last 2 shots on the old pumpkin! I pulled the pumpkin photo from the video...2 arrows, but one hole.

Click HERE to view the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxpMxnGFx5I)

(http://www.protegelongbows.com/CourtneysPumpkinShots.jpg)
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Post by: Swiftspeed10 on January 29, 2011, 08:49:00 PM
wow man that is very very impressive!  Good for her and good for you passing on the tradition.
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Post by: azhunter on January 29, 2011, 08:50:00 PM
That is some good shooting. Congratulations on the new bow.
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Post by: lpcjon2 on January 29, 2011, 08:50:00 PM
She has some good form. Hope she continues to shoot and makes it to Vegas one day.
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Post by: shoes on January 29, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
Wow! She obviously has a great coach and great natural ability to boot.
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Post by: ron w on January 29, 2011, 09:06:00 PM
:thumbsup:     :notworthy:   Good shooting young lady, nice bow also! You have fun.......
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Post by: Canyon on January 29, 2011, 09:07:00 PM
Great to see!! Getting the feel for pulling through the release is hard to explain. She is well on her way.

I love her hat... make it camo and people would be buying them by the barrel full.
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Post by: FerretWYO on January 29, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
Very nice shooting  Courtney. Its always fun to show Dad how its done.
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Post by: rastaman on January 29, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
Lucky daughter!  Lucky Dad!  Very cool!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Huntschool on January 29, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
She is hangin with Dad...  How cool is that...
Lee, great move getting her to shoot with her dominant eye.  

Go get em girl!
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Post by: Wannabe1 on January 29, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
Lee, that's great stuff right there. I have a daughter that is 13 and she enjoys shooting her bow also. Congrats to your daughter on her new bow.   :thumbsup:    :clapper:
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Post by: Hatrick on January 29, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
Lee, that's some great shooting by Courtney. She does a pretty darn good job of keeping that bow arm steady and pointed at the target through the shot. That's something that I don't see often in youngsters.

Mighty fine looking bow there as well.
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Post by: Friend on January 29, 2011, 09:32:00 PM
Very nice display of what the youth can do.

She is on the right road to becoming a good archer.

Thank you for sharing.
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Post by: wv lungbuster on January 29, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
Very impressive    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Buckhorn3380 on January 29, 2011, 10:15:00 PM
Thats awesome  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Raging Water on January 29, 2011, 10:19:00 PM
That is soooooo Awesome! Got chills looking at her. You must be proud.

Matt
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on January 29, 2011, 10:25:00 PM
Very Cool!!!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Gray Buffalo on January 29, 2011, 10:30:00 PM
Well of course she's good. She's left handed.  Good looking form  :clapper:
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Post by: 1oldbowguy on January 29, 2011, 10:43:00 PM
Dang, you think she could give me advice of shooting? Congrats young lady, U good!!!
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Post by: LC on January 29, 2011, 11:26:00 PM
Dang man I'm jealous, even though I started both of my daughters out at a early age neither as of yet have a desire to shoot any longer. It's been 23 years but I'm still waiting. Congrats and from the pic she's got great form!
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Post by: sorefingers on January 30, 2011, 12:42:00 AM
Great form, and good job courtney your a natural for sure  :clapper:
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Post by: Lee Robinson . on January 30, 2011, 12:54:00 AM
Thanks everyone for the kind words. She read them all except for the last 2 hours worth (as she has gone to bed).

In all honesty, I would much rather teach someone that knows NOTHING about archery. I have taught several people to shoot and my best students have often been people that just do what I ask without questioning it. Typically, kids are rather easy to teach. They don't say, "I like it this way, or I can't do that." They just do it and often times in as little as a 3 or 4 sessions they are showing very good form.

Adults or experienced archers are much more difficult.
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Post by: kibok&ko on January 30, 2011, 04:49:00 AM
i have some problem to get my kids eating vegetable, that can be a option to motivate them

good idea !!!!


most seriously very nice pic and you probably have a good time, congrat her for this very nice shooting
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Post by: Zradix on January 30, 2011, 04:52:00 AM
Isn't fun to be proud!?
  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Mudd on January 30, 2011, 05:15:00 AM
Kudos to the both of you!

Good shooting Courtney!!!! Good "Dadding" Lee!!

Impressive, yes sir! very impressive!

Thank you for sharing with us something so special to you.

God bless,Mudd
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Post by: Guru on January 30, 2011, 06:03:00 AM
Wow, good for you bud, she's a great shot...and what you have her working on with her elbow will make her even better...congrats to both of you   :clapper:  

Can I ask what kind of arrows is she shooting?  I'm looking for some for my son besides wood...

Thanx
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Post by: Big Ed on January 30, 2011, 10:04:00 AM
Great looking form,thank you for sharing!!
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Post by: maineac on January 30, 2011, 10:14:00 AM
Great shooting Courtney.  Sounded like fine coaching to me Lee.  Not overbearing, just reminding her the goal of her practice.
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Post by: mmisciag on January 30, 2011, 10:23:00 AM
Fantastic!

Martin
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Post by: Lee Robinson . on January 30, 2011, 10:24:00 AM
She asked me to tell everyone thank you for the kind and supportive words. My wife said, with a bunch of guys like what she sees here, it surprises her that there are not more women in archery.

QuoteOriginally posted by Guru:
Wow, good for you bud, she's a great shot...and what you have her working on with her elbow will make her even better...congrats to both of you     :clapper:    

Can I ask what kind of arrows is she shooting?  I'm looking for some for my son besides wood...

Thanx
Guru, those are Heritage 90s. We also have some 70's but I haven't made them up yet. The 90's seem to work fine, but we did have to use a 145 or a 175 gr tip...I forget as I made them 6 months ago. When I get ready to make her some more I will check that...

Also, her bow is only 28#@26"...but it is 62" long. When the time comes for her to step up in bow weight I will have her another bow for hunting, but I have thought about just cutting that bow down to 60" and that would bring it close to 35#@26" I suspect. No rush though...as form is more important than accuracy right now, and accuracy is more important than bow weight right now. If she works on it regularly, then we hope to have her ready for hunting season next winter. I would love to see her get a whitetail with her bow. Funny though, she keeps talking about hogs. I wonder if I may should to take her to a hog ranch or something to keep her "pumped." Even if we limit her to a small hog (even a javalina), it would mean a lot to her.
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Post by: Eugene Slagle on January 30, 2011, 10:39:00 AM
That's some darned good shootin there bud, You'll have a great archer with you tearin them targets up real soon.   :archer:
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Post by: Steven_CO on January 30, 2011, 10:39:00 AM
It is awesome.  Congrats
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Post by: customcrester on January 30, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
Thats good stuff!  :clapper:
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Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on January 30, 2011, 10:59:00 AM
She's a great shot already, just imagine how good she will be a few years from now.

I've been trying to coach my nephew on his form and release, but as long as he's close to right and not developing any real bad habits I just let him fling arrows. I found that too much advice all at once is hard for him to absorb and takes some of the fun out of it. So I have to control myself and just let him have fun with it.
Of course I correct him when I see something bad wrong that he's doing, or if he pulls a shot real bad and misses the target completely. Then I stop him and explain why he pulled that shot off.
I wish I had a coach to stand back and watch me shoot, then tell me what I'm doing wrong sometimes.

Great job dad, and keep a bow in that little lady's hands, I think she's a natural!   :thumbsup:
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Post by: wooddamon1 on January 30, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
That's what I'm talkin' about!Looks like she'll be outshooting us all someday...good goin',Dad!
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Post by: Lee Robinson . on January 30, 2011, 11:25:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
She's a great shot already, just imagine how good she will be a few years from now.

I've been trying to coach my nephew on his form and release, but as long as he's close to right and not developing any real bad habits I just let him fling arrows. I found that too much advice all at once is hard for him to absorb and takes some of the fun out of it. So I have to control myself and just let him have fun with it.
Of course I correct him when I see something bad wrong that he's doing, or if he pulls a shot real bad and misses the target completely. Then I stop him and explain why he pulled that shot off.
I wish I had a coach to stand back and watch me shoot, then tell me what I'm doing wrong sometimes.

Great job dad, and keep a bow in that little lady's hands, I think she's a natural!    :thumbsup:  
Get a video camera. It is a great tool...and it will be honest.
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Post by: bentpole on January 30, 2011, 02:10:00 PM
:thumbsup:   Great daughter and looks like a great shooting bow too!   :archer:    :jumper:
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Post by: joe ashton on January 30, 2011, 02:39:00 PM
hi  out side with your kids.. perfect.  Tiffiny's days as top female hunter are numbered....
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Post by: tarponnut on January 30, 2011, 03:41:00 PM
That's awesome! Great shooting, nothing at all wrong with a static release.
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Post by: steadman on January 30, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
Great Job!! She has outstanding form, way to go Courtney!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: glass76 on January 30, 2011, 03:52:00 PM
Just her second time with this bow and only eight months total. WOW. She is doing great. You must be one proud dad.   :clapper:    :clapper:
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Post by: GO Rogers on January 30, 2011, 04:12:00 PM
You are Blessed!
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Post by: Cal bow on January 30, 2011, 04:34:00 PM
Way to go Courtney, you are going to have the coolest Jack-O-Lantern in town.
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Post by: sawtoothscream on January 30, 2011, 06:01:00 PM
thats awsome. i wish i had someone that could help me work on my form and set up my bows. i have to do trial and error and it sucks haha.

how far was she shooting? shes a great shot for sure
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Post by: Lee Robinson . on January 30, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
Thanks again guys.

She was 15 yards from the target...but I would guess she was only about 12-13 yards from the pumpkin.
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Post by: sawtoothscream on January 30, 2011, 06:50:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Protege Longbows:
Thanks again guys.

She was 15 yards from the target...but I would guess she was only about 12-13 yards from the pumpkin.
cool.  she will be sniping at 20 yds in no time
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Post by: Owlgrowler on January 30, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
Great shootin! Cute kid.
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Post by: Passthru on January 30, 2011, 07:58:00 PM
Great work!  

I wish someone had started me right.  It's easier to not start bad habits than to break them.
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Post by: Lee Robinson . on January 31, 2011, 01:02:00 PM
Thanks guys. I hope she sticks with it and that I can post an update of her in a few months.
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Post by: tecum-tha on January 31, 2011, 01:28:00 PM
I am left eye dominant too, but right handed.
I shoot left-handed also. No problem.
I think she just forces that bow a little bit too much into the vertical axis. This doesn't seem to be her natural fist angle. I don't know if her individual fist angle is really this vertical? I think that puts the bow a little more into her "sight" picture than it needs to be. Also, the grip of the bow seems pretty straight. Is there any "indexer" somewhere under the leather for consistent hand placement?It seems that it is easy to grip the bow not 100% at the pressure point. I see that the grip is slim enough for her index and thumb to touch comfortably.  I like her KISA armguard :-))
I still have mine as well, was wondering what was going on with KISA after seeing the webpage gone... Her cap has some great voyageur styling....
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Post by: Lee Robinson . on January 31, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
You can see some pictures of the bow's grip on this page...

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=099575;p=1  

Good eye there to recognize the armguard. We shut down KISA back sometime around 2004 or so. While I no longer make armguards or backquivers for sale, I do of course make a few for family and friends. I am not a big promoter of excessive canting of the bow. Some is fine. That said, I have never altered her cant either vertical or slanted. I did tell her I wanted the arrow under her eye, but that is all. Anything else that she does in that area has been natural so far.
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Post by: Ghost Dog on January 31, 2011, 03:02:00 PM
Cortney, you ROCK!
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Post by: ti-guy on January 31, 2011, 03:23:00 PM
Excellent,way to go
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Post by: tecum-tha on January 31, 2011, 03:48:00 PM
Lee,
the only alteration to the armguard was the replacement of the leather strap with one of those elastic round laces and a plastic stopper with a pushknob. Many archers in Germany  modelled their own armguards after this design after seeing me using it at 3D-shoots and saw how quick it can be put on, off and how it will always automatically adjust to the amount of clothing you wear.
With the "indexer", I usually put a small piece of leather under my leather grip that my tip of the middle finger touches, That makes sure my hand placement is always perfect. This placement is individual for every shooter. I shoot this out, because every bow has a sweet spot, where the bow shoots most accurate for the particular shooter. This handplacement is marked with the indexer for me, always gripping the bow right even in stressful situation where my main concentration is on something else...
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Post by: Terry Green on January 31, 2011, 04:02:00 PM
:bigsmyl:     :thumbsup: