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Title: Desert Bighorns - pics
Post by: kadbow on January 22, 2011, 10:46:00 AM
Just thought I'd share a couple pics.  These were on the way home from work last night, riding with Colotrad.  Pics aren't great but only had the cell phone.  Two rams in Colorado National Monument, for some reason they seem to like this spot in the winter.  Desert Bighorns are probably one of the rarest "huntable" big game species in the states.

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Post by: Coonbait on January 22, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
Beautiful animals! I'd love to see one. Thanks for sharing!
GLENN
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Post by: Huntschool on January 22, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
Thats really cool...  God I love those sheep.  
Every time I see sheep I remember reading Jack as a kid.  Jack O'Connor.....
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Post by: twitchstick on January 22, 2011, 11:02:00 AM
I love looking at sheep. Nice pic's. Boy I thought at frist the pic's were of a herd just south of me. They winter in a very similar spot. Maybe some day I could draw one of the few tags!
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Post by: steadman on January 22, 2011, 11:03:00 AM
Nice pics Mark. Now if someone could just draw a tag   :banghead:
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Post by: snow leopard on January 22, 2011, 11:07:00 AM
i think i want to move back west!! nice pics. i was a jack o'connor nut, bruce. had his books and read everything he wrote in "outdoor life" magazine. he was the reason i began shooting, and handloading for .270 winchester. had a pre-'64 at one time. sure wish i had it now-----.
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Post by: 1oldbowguy on January 22, 2011, 11:52:00 AM
Great pictures!
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Post by: Tique on January 22, 2011, 11:58:00 AM
I never get tired of seeing pictures of sheep; I think they are awesome animals.
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Post by: Cocklebur on January 22, 2011, 12:11:00 PM
Great pictures!
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Post by: n.c.swamp buck on January 22, 2011, 12:34:00 PM
thats a cool picture!they dont mind the cars at all.
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Post by: DXH on January 22, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
That is an awesome set of pictures
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Post by: Lee Slikkers on January 22, 2011, 01:01:00 PM
What a majestic animal to spot...hard to beat the impressiveness (not sure that's a real word??) of those big curls on a nice Ram.

Thanks for sharing...

Lee
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Post by: amar911 on January 22, 2011, 01:59:00 PM
Mark,

Those animals are nice to see. I envy you for spotting them. Thanks for taking the pictures and letting the rest of us share in the experience. I have personally never seen a desert bighorn in the wild, but I have seen a number of Rocky Mountain bighorns over the years. I'm not sure which I find to be the more impressive. Both are spectacular.

Allan
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Post by: Jimscol on January 22, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
Mark:  nice pictures. Are you shooting tomorrow?  I'll throw my camera in the jeep in case the sheep are still there.   Jim
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Post by: WRV on January 22, 2011, 03:22:00 PM
Cool Pictures!
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Post by: legends1 on January 22, 2011, 03:28:00 PM
Thats really cool,right along the road.
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Post by: straitera on January 22, 2011, 03:37:00 PM
Lucky you brother just to see one. Thanks
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Post by: Zbone on January 22, 2011, 05:35:00 PM
kadbow  - Cool pix, thanx for sharing.... Question – do you know the boundary that separates the CO Desert Bighorns from the Rocky Mountain Bighorns, cause  was told those wild sheep not far away in Glenwood Canyon were of the Rocky Mountain subspecies?...Thanx for any info.
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Post by: Jimscol on January 22, 2011, 06:09:00 PM
The Glenwood Canyon sheep are Rocky Mtn Bighorns.  In the winter you can usually see them along I-70 at the No Name Exit.
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Post by: Dmaxshawn on January 22, 2011, 06:28:00 PM
My dream animal.  And highest animal on my bucket list.  

Shawn
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Post by: oldtimerbow on January 22, 2011, 06:35:00 PM
Just seeing the pics makes the heart rate speed up. What majestic animals they are.
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Post by: kadbow on January 22, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
Jim, I am planning on shooting tomorrow @ 10:00.  I didn't see the rams today.  Zbone, as Jim said the Glenwood Canyon sheep are Rocky Mtns.  There are only a few units on the far west edge of the state that have Deserts.
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Post by: Zbone on January 22, 2011, 07:14:00 PM
Yeah, that's what I said, "those wild sheep not far away in Glenwood Canyon were of the Rocky Mountain subspecies"

What or where is the boundary that separates the two subspecies? Those two locations are not that far apart...
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Post by: Jimscol on January 22, 2011, 07:22:00 PM
I don't know if there is a particular boundary.  The Desert's pretty much stay south of the Colorado River and west of the Gunnison River.
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Post by: kennyb on January 22, 2011, 07:35:00 PM
That's pretty cool, Mark! Thanks.
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Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on January 22, 2011, 07:36:00 PM
Nice!
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Post by: medic77 on January 22, 2011, 07:50:00 PM
They are amazing animals.
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Post by: Zbone on January 22, 2011, 07:56:00 PM
Jim - That is kinda what I was getting at. With two subspecies so closely grouped together, what keeps them from crossbreeding?

Are those in Colorado National Monument true Deserts, and are those in Glenwood Canyon true Rocky Mountain or are they a mixed bunch?

Thanx
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Post by: cacciatore on January 22, 2011, 08:00:00 PM
Mark,I remember well that turn on the road,but then we didn't see those sheeps.Take care.Felix
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Post by: Tater on January 22, 2011, 08:41:00 PM
Mark,
      Nice pictures.! Not much snow in that area. I thought you guys were buried over there??

    Look forward to seeing you guys in a month.
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Post by: Jimscol on January 22, 2011, 08:48:00 PM
No they are not mixed. They are about 100 miles apart
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Post by: greyghost on January 22, 2011, 08:53:00 PM
Truely a Majestic animal. Thanks for sahring.


Earl
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Post by: E.AllenIII on January 22, 2011, 10:31:00 PM
Awesome pics...amazing they are that close to the road
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Post by: Zbone on January 22, 2011, 11:04:00 PM
Okay thanx Jim, didn't know.

Google maps shows the locations around 70-80  miles apart as the crow flies, and I assume there are other animals in between and know 70 miles isn't all that uncommon for western big game to migrate in harsh weather.... Was just curious is all...Thanx
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Post by: Drumstick63 on January 22, 2011, 11:15:00 PM
Thanks for the pics.  Amazing animals....
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Post by: piggy on January 22, 2011, 11:36:00 PM
Great stuff if your back that way again would love to see some landscape pictures.
Cheers

Paul
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Post by: rdoggsilva on January 23, 2011, 12:05:00 AM
Nice pictures, they are magnificent animals.
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Post by: varmint101 on January 23, 2011, 01:01:00 AM
Oh man, DREAM hunt!  Awesome pictures, thanks!
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Post by: Richie on January 23, 2011, 01:23:00 AM
Nice pics, thanks.
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on January 23, 2011, 02:37:00 AM
Cool animals and pictures.
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Post by: GRINCH on January 23, 2011, 06:26:00 AM
Beautiful animals,great pics
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Post by: RUSTY1 on January 23, 2011, 07:34:00 AM
Man I would love to live out west!!!! I would even enjoy that ride home from work!!

Rusty
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Post by: HornHunter on January 23, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
zbone
there pretty much seperated by the CO river, now there is a recent transplant in the debeque area of rockies that puts them a little closer

but right now there still a true species, but there is nothing other then physical boundries to keep them apart, they will interbreed and do, I remember a huge desert came from new mexico just a couple of years ago, looked just like a rocky, so it boils down to where you kill them as to what specie they really are, alot of animals are (lines in the sand) if you will, stones and dalls are the same way

a true desert sheep is a very small bodied animal but that is due to there habitat, you put them in lush vegatation with few predators and they grow big

the only real way to keep track of them is radio collar the young rams as they travel great distances

here are some rockies

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Post by: Big Ed on January 23, 2011, 09:36:00 AM
Beautiful pics,Thank you for sharing!!
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Post by: ckanous on January 23, 2011, 09:39:00 AM
I'm with everyone else on this--Cool Pics! I'm gonna have to admit that I am very jealous though!!
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Post by: kadbow on January 23, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
The winter seems to change the animals priorities with regards to survival.  They seem less concerned with humans and roads and mor concerned with food.  In the winter I will see herds of elk bedded in an open field right off of I-70.  It also makes them more susceptable to poachers.
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Post by: Muskoxman on January 23, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
Great pics !

I was fortunate to grow up in Alaska with dall sheep hunting right out my backdoor. Recently I've moved to Colorado and would love to make a run at at big horn.
What's the chances of drawing a tag ?
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Post by: kadbow on January 23, 2011, 11:11:00 AM
Once you have 3 points you have a chance, slim, but a chance.  Where do you live?
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Post by: Muskoxman on January 23, 2011, 11:21:00 AM
Right now I'm out in north east , Yuma CO. My in-laws had a house here we could stay in. But we're hoping to move to the mountains as soon as my land in AK sells. I'm looking at the Westcliffe and Trinidad areas.

Thanks, John
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Post by: kadbow on January 23, 2011, 11:34:00 AM
That is a nice area you are looking at.  I sent you a PM with some local trad info.
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Post by: Zbone on January 23, 2011, 03:06:00 PM
HornHunter - Yeah, they'll travel, and if far enough capable to interbreed, and that was kinda my reason for bringing up the subject. I Iived in Colorado a couple years (was also inspired by O'Connor as a kid) and spent as much time as I could around the wild sheep while out there (even drew a Rocky ewe tag once), but it wasn't until reading this thread did I realize the desert variety were relocated so close to the Rockys. Although I hadn't really looked up Colorado's desert subspecies locations because odds of ever drawing a tag are astronomical, I thought they were more isolated to the desert canyons of southern CO, much further from there Rocky cousins, but hmmm, guess not...

Spent some time around the Glenwood, Rifle, Meeker area, and had I known about the Debeque herd would have checked them out. Have never seen a Desert subspecies in the wild.... Again kadbow, thanx for sharing the pix.
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Post by: toppredator on January 23, 2011, 05:50:00 PM
Awesome pics!!!
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Post by: J. Oles on January 23, 2011, 08:40:00 PM
Great looking Ram