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Title: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: artelkhunter on January 17, 2011, 07:44:00 PM
I've never hunting elk with traditional equipment. I have a trip booked for Sept. in New Mexico. Any suggestions on broadheads? I'm thinking stinger or mayby the wasp sharp shooter.   :archer2:    :archer2:
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: J-dog on January 17, 2011, 08:06:00 PM
Try a search, many many threads on the subject.

With 54# though arrows tuned proper you can shoot whatever you want to hit em with as long as it is sharp??? course I guess I could be wrong!

No experience with elk so i will go no further.

Jason

Oh yeah, GOOD LUCK and post pics!!    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: beachbowhunter on January 17, 2011, 08:07:00 PM
Well, I've shot through two elk bulls in new mexico with a Stinger 150 4 blade, with bows right around that same weight. Arrows weighed 620 grains the first time and around 530 grains the second.

Where are you going in NM?  Good luck!
N
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Rooselk on January 17, 2011, 08:22:00 PM
I will also be hunting elk this year with a 54# bow. My personal choice was to go with two blade broadhead. I will be going with a 140 gr. Eclipse. But the Stingers that were suggested are also an excellent choice.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: artelkhunter on January 17, 2011, 08:38:00 PM
Beach, were hunting on private land in unit 15. From the 10 to the 18. Were hoping to get in on the pre-rut,herd gathering phase with lots of bugling.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Ron+dog on January 17, 2011, 08:42:00 PM
cant go wrong with magnus stingers or buzzcuts
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: flyfish1 on January 17, 2011, 08:44:00 PM
54 lb and a wensel woodsman would make a great set up
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Doug in MN on January 17, 2011, 08:55:00 PM
I would think Stingers would serve you well .

I have however shot 4 Elk, all with STOS broadheads. 56# and 59# longbows 605 and 630 grain arrows. There are a lot of great BH choices out there.

Scary sharp broadhead and Perfect arrow flight are the key.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: celticknot on January 17, 2011, 09:05:00 PM
heavy broadhead and light arrow. better flight and lots of punch. I shoot grizzly's, but they can be hard to sharpen if you are sharpening challenged. They are kinda pricy but steel force single bevels are a mean thick razor sharp head from the package.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Joe Subler on January 17, 2011, 09:27:00 PM
My last elk was shot with a 53#@27 inch longbow using a Simmons Tiger Shark with insert on a carbon arrow.

Joe
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Barney on January 17, 2011, 09:31:00 PM
Out of the 2 you mention, I'd go with the stinger. 2 or 4 blade.

Many different broadheads will work just fine as long as they're sharp and put in the right place    :readit:

Maybe it's just me but I think there's starting to be too many different broadheads. Bear broadheads worked just fine for Fred, Hill broadheads worked pretty good for Howard. I'm as guilty as the next guy, I guess. A good strong, sharp broadhead in the right place and dead is dead.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 17, 2011, 09:53:00 PM
i think barney's got it.  well flying arrow of decent gpp weight and a sharp broadhead of most any number of blades and make.

however, i think that perhaps narrower & longer blades might have better overall penetration and initial punch than wider blades, if the bow holding weight is perhaps under 60# or so.  just a guess.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: joe ashton on January 17, 2011, 10:10:00 PM
I've shoot elk with:

zwicky 2 blade,

125 thunder head

and

Woodsman.... killed them all,  but the woodsman killed it deader..
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: joe ashton on January 17, 2011, 10:14:00 PM
wait thats not what I meant.  All three broadheads killed the elk I shot with them....
I'm  shooting  Woodsman now.  I like them....
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Bowmania on January 17, 2011, 10:38:00 PM
If you have any knowledge of penetration and how BH's work, look at a STOS.  Want to be sure to take out two lungs, that will do it.  Longer than any thing mentioned and two blades.

Bowmania
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: tradshooter on January 17, 2011, 10:47:00 PM
Whatever you choose make sure it meets the requirement for broad head width. I don't know what the regulations are in Colorado but double check to be sure. A lot of good broad heads out there just get them sharp and put the sliver in the right place. Good Luck
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: FerretWYO on January 17, 2011, 11:51:00 PM
You cannot go wrong with a stinger.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Sixby on January 17, 2011, 11:58:00 PM
I like BuzzzzzzzzzzzzzCuts for the presharpend. Otherwise any high quality 2 blade as long as its a black diamond or a magnus or eclipse or Grizzly or. I use Woodsmans but honestly feel like you could use more poundage with a three. However most times the Woodsman would work for you.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: LONGSTYKES on January 18, 2011, 12:06:00 AM
I have used Both Grizzlys  and Muzzy Phantoms both at 200gr, arrow total @ 700gr. They both worked well. Put it where it should be and you will be all-right. Good Luck Don
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: screamin on January 18, 2011, 12:27:00 AM
Lot of good heads and advice mentioned already. I've killed elk with the old Magnus 2's and Stingers but any sharp 2 blade will do as long as you get both lungs. Even if you don't get both lungs it still may work, worked for me one time but it took a 5 hours to find the elk and it required a follow up shot.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: legends1 on January 18, 2011, 02:13:00 AM
I used a 51# bow, 510grn. arrow,and a Magnus II.Worked very well. Best is a very well tuned arrow and very sharp broadhead.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Lonala on January 18, 2011, 03:03:00 AM
Grizz................
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: wingnut on January 18, 2011, 07:06:00 AM
I've taken elk with grizzly, magnus, and a few with WW.  I'm debating this year of going with WW or the Abowyer heads I got for moose last year.

Either will do the job for sure.

Mike
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: jfelkins on January 18, 2011, 07:11:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by joe ashton:
but the woodsman killed it deader.. [/QB]
Love it! What wt.?
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: bobman on January 18, 2011, 07:36:00 AM
I still use bear razor heads although they are getting tougher to find
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Friend on January 18, 2011, 09:18:00 AM
artelkhunter - You have received much good advice. The business end of the arrow, while extremely significant, is merely one part of the equation for terminal performance. Best of luck in Sept.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: FerretWYO on January 18, 2011, 09:43:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Friend:
artelkhunter - You have received much good advice. The business end of the arrow, while extremely significant, is merely one part of the equation for terminal performance. Best of luck in Sept.
Well said.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: wapiti792 on January 18, 2011, 09:43:00 AM
Killed an elk with a Woodsman Elite last year with a 55 # longbow. It was pretty dead, too  :)
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Doug Treat on January 18, 2011, 12:18:00 PM
I have taken 6 elk now with low poundage traditional bows (41-54#).  5 were with Zwickey Eskimos and 1 with a Bear Razorhead.  The Bear didn't hold up very well (blade broke off the ferrel) but still killed the elk.  I went to Zwickeys after that and have never had one fail. The more important part about the arrow is the total weight, IMO.  I like at least 600 gr. for elk.  BTW, the 41# bow (2010)was shooting 630 gr. at only 143 FPS.  I got 20" of penetration!
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Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: mnbearbaiter on January 18, 2011, 12:30:00 PM
Im lovin this thread, as im goin elk hunting this year for the first time and im torn between the Ace Express 165gr(i have alot of 'em), and the ever popular STOS in 160gr! Im shooting poundage the same as you +/- 1lb(#55), but im shooting a beefier arrow setup, my arrows are comin in right around 675-680gr finished arrow weight though! I believe the <600gr arrow weight to be very good recommendation for elk and other big stuff!
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: RonH on January 18, 2011, 01:17:00 PM
I shoot 600 grain arrows with bear heads and I have also used the original Journeyman. Complete pass through on three elk with 55 lbs. .........
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: mnbearbaiter on January 18, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
No doubt, #55 is all i shoot! 10-13gpi, sharp head=Dead Critter! Good luck with whatever head you choose!
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Kevin Winkler on January 18, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
I got my first bow killed elk in 2009 with a 55# longbow and a 150 gr. Woodsman Elite and it did a great job. The head buried in the opposite shoulder and the bull was down within 100 yds.

Like others have said, almost any razor sharp broadhead placed in the vitals will do the job.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: graybark uk on January 18, 2011, 05:43:00 PM
im glad this thread got started as my set up is 55# & 530gn arrows with 150 ww`s .i was going to start a thread asking what this set up isn`t enough for ? . so thanks guys & the best of luck putting down a nice big elk .
john
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Rooselk on January 18, 2011, 05:52:00 PM
I try to be open to the ideas and suggestions I read here at Trad Gang. A case in point is Bowmania's post in this thread suggesting STOS broadheads. After reading his post I did a search here for STOS heads and read all I could find. Given my 54# bow, I am now thinking that the the design of the STOS heads might aid in penetration. I'm definately going to check them out.
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: kibok&ko on January 18, 2011, 06:00:00 PM
anithing flying prefectly and sharp wil do the job

i should admit i never see a Elk but if i have one day a chance to hunt one ... (first i should brgin to play lotery ) i will use the broadhead i use for every thing now , El Grande with a something 650 grs EFOC arrow to avoid as much of the bad surprise you can get hunting
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: sagebrush on January 18, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
One thing a lot of shooters don't get perfect is arrow flight. It can rob a massive amount of penetration from your arrow. Gary
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: mnbearbaiter on January 19, 2011, 12:53:00 PM
Thats very true, rig up some arrows(heavy preferrably), and then practice with broadheads for tuning! You may have to play with brace height to achieve maximum effectiveness if you are making a change in arrow wood/material as the new shafting will more than likely respond differently than what you shot before! When you reach that sweet spot where the bows quiet and its got plenty of snort you are ready to go!
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Jimscol on January 19, 2011, 06:46:00 PM
The  last two that I have killed have been with STOS from a 53# bow.  I got great penetration and short recovery distance.  Neither had great blood trails though.  Jim
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: artelkhunter on January 19, 2011, 11:27:00 PM
Jim, STOS? not  familiar with that abbreviation. thanks Art
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: Jimscol on January 19, 2011, 11:37:00 PM
STOS broadheads.  Slicker Than Owl S*%t
Title: Re: broadhead for elk @ 54#
Post by: kawika b on January 19, 2011, 11:38:00 PM
http://www.stosbroadheads.com/