I have a nice fox hide that's just salted and i was wondering if anyone knew how to make a side or back quiver with one. I'd lie it to be fur side out and have the feet and tail dangling with the face pointed down, but i don't want to tan the hide i'd like it to be stiff. I found this picture of the fox here http://www.cherokeespirits.com/furquivers.htm and this is essentially what i want i can't figure how the got the head to sit like that though. Any ideas?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, i've searched the internet for hours and found no help. A pattern or something would be great.
I'd be interested as well, those look great!
Talk with PatB He can help You..
I searched a PatB in the directory, and no one came up.
You will have to tan the hide one way or the other. If not the weevil bugs will eat it up and you wont even no it till the fur starts falling out.
You could do a hard tan on it and the reason the head is like that is it's been cut off and re-sewn back on.
Tracy
Tan /preserve hide. Fox are cased skinned, so basically a tube. Find a thin wall plastic tube(art store) (pvc too heavy)seal bottom with piece of wood with felt lining where arrow tips land(quiet). If you are lucky the tube will nearly match the Fox diameter. Stick tube(open end) into Fox up to head, cut a slit in the right place as to fold the head down and create an opening for arrows. The excess fur fold down inside of tube so arrows do not bang on edge. Use either barge cement on contact adhesive to tack loose bits to tube. Tack strap to bottom wood and opposite side of head at top of tube. Sorry not a technical writer but I hope it gets you in the right direction. Trust me even a rough job looks cool so go for it!! There are other methods too.
Is this kind of what you had in mind?
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rburtis1/DSCN0079.jpg)
I like that pic.
Here is mine, I just slipped an old plain backquiver into a cased 'yote. The strap comes out a leg hole top and bottom anf I glued and sewed the top. I've been using this one for about 8 yrs now.
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt261/yelojello/088.jpg)
I am curious as to why you put it head down, vrs head up. It would seem to me that the hair would want to "catch" leaves, twigs, and other debris in it while head up would let things slide off the pelt?
looks great either way!
L.R.
Definitely tan it and then line it with something that'll hold up.
To get the face reversed you cut it off and reattach
One of Barb's:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/quivers/th_foxquiver1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/quivers/?action=view¤t=foxquiver1.jpg)
A similar one from me, w/o the face
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/quivers/th_foxquiver.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/quivers/?action=view¤t=foxquiver.jpg)
I'm making a quiver similar to this one out of a nice coyote hide right now... and taking pictures for a build along.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/quivers/th_100_0056.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/quivers/?action=view¤t=100_0056.jpg)
My last fox quiver
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/quivers/th_100_0180.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v212/fliksr/quivers/?action=view¤t=100_0180.jpg)
You could save yourself the trouble and leave the head on........trim out the lower jaw and a medium fox can hold a dozen arrows easy. I make a slim leather interior and slide it inside. When wet, I stretch the fox over a 1 liter bottle of soda or small propane cylinder to dry. Then it holds the shape of the inner tube.
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/Jakesquiver001.jpg) (http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/WQ001.jpg)
Those are some sweet quivers...very nice work Dave :thumbsup:
You guys have an awesome talent! Good luck on your next creations.
they are cool.. probably get you shot down here
LR... its long soft fur,it repels everything. Nothing stays in it. I use the bottem half of the hide to wipe the dirt off my arrows. The dirt then just drys and falls off. Its why nice healthy animals always look so shiney and sleek.
First thing came to my mind was give that ole fox a teaspoon of Cod Liver Oil....That'll make him quiver!
I cut off the head and reverse and sew it back on. Works great and that is the only way to get like that.
just shot a small raccoon the other day and skinned him out. I am thinking he will make a GREAT quiver. I dont know how to tan, but I can flat out skin the hide off of anything! I have a fox hide that was a fresh road kill in the freezer as well, and I have a deer hide from an 8pt my buddy shot off of family property too- sure wish I knew how to tan em!
L.R.
Great pictures guys that's alot of help. Are all of those tanned hides? And my hides skinned right up thebelly and down each leg is there and ideas how to make it like the first picture with the yote that had its head facing down?
Would the hide have to be tanned no matter what, because I've made a deer hide one witout tanning it and stretched it around a form untill it hardened and that turned out great.
You tan it to keep the bugs from gnawing at it. They tend to get in and chew away if not tanned. You'll see dry "dust" in the fur from them chewing, they are destroying it from the skin side out.
Loneranger, PM sent.
What would be the best way to get a hard tan for a fox pelt? Buy a tanning kit or easy homemade method?
Alum/Salt Tan is what I use and works great.
1 cup of aluminum sulfate to 2 cups of salt to one gallon of water. Make as many gallons as it takes to cover the Hide completely, A fox will take about 2 or 3 days if fleshed properly and a deer hide will take 4 or 5.
I recommend you look up the steps on the web or find a book to show you the proper steps. It's a easy tan to do and it's the prep work and the softening that's a pain but is easier with a hard tan.
Tracy
YORNOC, got your PM- thats why I havent done it, takes too long. was planning on giving the hides to a taxidermist or professional tanner to do. dont really want to deal with the hassle of it. However I am game to try anything once. the raccoon I just skinned was a fatty mess (first time skinning a coon) all are frozen currently.
L.R.
Man those look great. Good job.