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Title: Weight Reductions
Post by: Onions on January 14, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
Wondering who has had a bow's poundage reduced?
If so, how did the bow shoot after?
Were you glad you did it?

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Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: huntin_sparty on January 14, 2011, 04:05:00 PM
I was wondering something similar on a Widow I just got last fall.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Cocklebur on January 14, 2011, 04:42:00 PM
You can call Black Widow with the serial# and they can tell you if and how much weight they can take off. I think they will shoot fine after they are done.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Tater John on January 14, 2011, 04:50:00 PM
Would they reduce the weight on glass limbs, by narrowing them? I know nothing about the process but was told by the manufacturer it can be done on a bow I have. Didn't ask how they do it. $250 is the quote.  Rusty
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: ballen28115 on January 14, 2011, 04:55:00 PM
$250?  Ouch!  Wes Wallace took down one of my Mentors by 3# basically for free, all I had to pay for was the refinish job, which was $75.  Wes can get that weight off by sanding the glass.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Green on January 14, 2011, 04:55:00 PM
Dangit....I thought you were giving no fail, easy diet tips.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Tater John on January 14, 2011, 05:01:00 PM
Plus shipping,I asked if 6-8 lbs. could come off. New set of limbs are twice the amount at least.  Rusty
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Sixby on January 14, 2011, 05:07:00 PM
I think 75. is unreasonable (low) You are talking about liability if you mess it up. Who pays for that? The bowyer> doing several hours of sanding and retillering. and fine sanding and a complete refinish. 250. is in line IMHO. 75. by Wes was a favor.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: snow leopard on January 14, 2011, 05:12:00 PM
check with joe at prairie traditions, who is also a tradgang sponsor. he does this and does an awesome job.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Tater John on January 14, 2011, 05:13:00 PM
If several hours equates to 3 1/2-4 hrs. $250 is reasonable. If I knew what I was doing and doing it for a living I'd need that much.  Rusty
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: cacciatore on January 14, 2011, 05:20:00 PM
Instead of paying $250 I rather sell the limbs and then I buy a new pair that fit me.
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Post by: Tater John on January 14, 2011, 05:29:00 PM
Thats the catch, cacciatore, I'll spend 250 making up the difference if I sold the ones I have  Rusty
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Tater John on January 14, 2011, 05:31:00 PM
The limbs I have are 52# which isn't a deal, I'm just getting older and lazier. Thats at 28" and I settle in at 27 1/4  Rusty
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: cedar on January 14, 2011, 06:23:00 PM
I have been told by several bowyers that they can reduce weight by 5 lbs max.  I had a longbow reduced by 5 lb and it shot fine.  Glad I did it.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: 3Under on January 14, 2011, 06:36:00 PM
A friend of mine took 10% off of a 60lb. TD Morrison recurve. It shoots great. It hasn't been chrono'ed but it seems to shoot just as fast just easier to pull!
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: olddogrib on January 14, 2011, 06:39:00 PM
I've had it done 3 or 4 times by a couple bowyers but was told 2-3 lbs. was the norm.  Doesn't sound like a lot, but if it's the poundage you're used to you'll feel the difference.  Bows shot fine and sometimes I've had them retillered for 3 under at the same time. Charges ranged from $35-$100, but it's been awhile since I had one done.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: landman on January 14, 2011, 06:39:00 PM
Wes has my Mentor right now, reducing it a few pounds, and I can hardly wait to get it back.  I thoroughly love my WW bows.   Best investment in hunting equipment I ever made and I've been shooting them for 12-14 years without any problems.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Bowwild on January 14, 2011, 07:17:00 PM
I paid $140 to have 6 pounds removed from a PSAIII (went from 58 to 52# @ 28").  Mine might have been a bit more because I had a "motto" added under my already present name. This price included return shipping.  I thought it was a bit expensive but it saved the bow, for me at least.  That bow was headed for the block because it was hotter than I care to shoot these days. I am very glad I did it. I can't tell a bit of difference in the bow's appearance because it was as new before and after. It took about 3 weeks because I caught them (end of July I recall) during a down time.

I don't know how they do it though. I figure they jog with it, put it on a treadmill, rub it with grape fruit...
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Zbone on January 14, 2011, 07:26:00 PM
Black Widow reduced my 56", Ironwood 2001 model from 64# to around 59# at 28" of draw by trapizoiding the limbs. They wouldn't take anymore off of it.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: JrsyBowHunter on January 14, 2011, 08:17:00 PM
check out two tracks bow company they have prices on the site for reducing weight on a bow
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Post by: Sixby on January 14, 2011, 08:25:00 PM
I reduced the weight on one of my sons longbows from 80to 62 lb and it was actually faster at 62 than it was at 80. I take it that the weight removed overcame the poundage lost making a faster limb. It sure was a lot narrower when I got through with it. LOL
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Fritz on January 14, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
I've had two different bows reduced. Had 5# shaved off of both. One was a Thunderstick T-Mag, the other my SAIII Widow. Both shoot great. Both cost around $100 each to have it reduced. Very glad I did it.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: kenn1320 on January 14, 2011, 10:29:00 PM
I inquired about it, was told 5lbs or less was all that could be expected. I think 5lbs would make a big difference if your on the edge.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Terry Lightle on January 15, 2011, 10:02:00 AM
My son just had BW do his a couple of weeks ago,THINK he said 100 bucks plus shipping.Shaved 4 pounds off his recurve
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: tippit on January 15, 2011, 10:18:00 AM
Do it yourself by taking glass off belly & back and/or wood off the side (either flat or trapezoid).  You need to watch the tiller, poundage, and straightness of string down the belly.  For just a couple pounds it' a piece of cake.  Pending the shape of the limbs you can take up to 15# off on some over built bows.  If the tiller stays the same it should shoot as well in the lower poundage.  

JMHO, then again I have a lot of bows that I can trash & make knife handles from them  :)   Doc
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Burnsie on January 15, 2011, 10:19:00 AM
I had Jim Belcher reduce my Brackenbury Quest before he handed the Bow Hospital over to Whip. He took off 4-5# and all is good.  I think it was right around $100-125 with shipping.  Call Whip,  I hear he continues to do fine work as well.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: cyred4d on January 15, 2011, 11:57:00 AM
This is something I would like to have done to one of my bows. Glad to hear everyone has had good experiences with it.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: ronp on January 15, 2011, 01:11:00 PM
I recently purchased a longbow and the bowyer reduced the weight 5#.  Or 4#, I don't recall.  It was a bow that was in stock and maybe wasn't yet finished, so the weight reduction was included in the purchase price.  So it was a good deal for me.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: ronp on January 15, 2011, 01:13:00 PM
Along the same lines, has anyone heard of increasing draw weight a little, by adding another lamination of glass or something similar?  Just curious.
Ron
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Bill Turner on January 15, 2011, 01:42:00 PM
Just had Craig Eakins reduce poundage on a Howard Hill Wesley Special from 55@28 to 50@28. 5 pounds is the about the norm. The original bowyer or someone familier with your bow design would be my recommedation to do the work. As for performance, it has been my experience that a bow that has been reduced in weight performs better than it did before the reduction. Perhaps an increase in draw length is the reason for this. As for price, $125 to $175 plus shipping is the norm. Remember, liability is a factor, but the bow is not only reduced in weight, it also must be refinished. Is it worth the money? If there is a sentimental attachment to the bow, or if you bought it at a good price, perhaps second hand, it might be money well spent. Only you can decide.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: tippit on January 15, 2011, 02:29:00 PM
ronp,
Check with PV here.  He's made several bows where he has two sets of knock grooves  By cutting lower knocks you are effectively shortening the bow thus increasing the draw weight...Doc
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: owlbait on January 15, 2011, 02:41:00 PM
I had Jim Belcher and Whip work on bows for me and the work was reasonbly priced and they did a fine job. A friend had Chuck from TwoTracks work a bow for him, again, reasonbly priced and great results. All done for $125 or less, per bow. I did have another bow reduced and refinished, over $200, VERY long wait time, poor customer sevice, and I was not happy with the results. Sometimes you don't get what you pay for. Whip and Chuck would be good choices, IMHO.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Tater John on January 15, 2011, 05:45:00 PM
:thumbsup:  on the opinions
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: bowgy on January 15, 2011, 05:55:00 PM
I'm getting older too and have been thinking about reducing all of my bows.  Dan Toelke did one for me $100 including shipping it back to me.  I called Wes Wallace $75 and Great Plains $100.  they all said 3 to 5 lbs Dan took off 5 lbs and it shoots great.
Title: Re: Weight Reductions
Post by: Zbone on January 17, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
Something to keep in mind, reducing means sanding, grinding, etc., which means the limbs will need to be refinished.