Ilooking for a heavy glue on 2 blade broadhead for 5/16" shafts.the heaviest i,ve found is the howard hill broadhead(145 grains).has anyone tried them if so whats your opinion? thanks
We have killed a number of deer with them. they are difficult to get a good edge with a file, although my son killed two deer with the same broadhead that was sharpened exactly as the direction say from hill archery with good results. I shot a 160 pound doe with one that was sharpened with a dremmel tool and a leather belt, 18 yards with a 36 pound at my 26.5 draw, (injured my elbow and could not shoot my heavy bow) 9 feet up and 18 yards out. The shot was a pass through and the deer went down in 80 yards. They don't always give the best blood trails on lung hits, I think they would be better if they would be single bevel like my 160 grain Hills. Given a choice I would use Grizzlies over the smaller Hill. Against all logic, I have found that single bevels gets a better edge using the Hill file method than double bevel Hills. Perhaps the razor sharp edge has its advantages, but the keener single bevel serrated edge works good on the Grizzly and single bevel Hills.
I shoot them from my 45# Hill Redman and they fly great. No wind planing or anything. I have a pretty good edge on them but, have not harvested anything with them. They are tipped on my Howard Hill arrows made by Jason Ekin.
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I heard the samething from many people, they fly great, but it takes time to sharpen them. I beleive it's because of the concave blade.
You may want to call Craig or Jason at HHill archery and ask them.
Darren
I took my first wild boar and first black bear with them back in 2006. Bow was a #65 Dennis Sayre recurve.
Really like the Hill BH. Good luck getting them sharp.
If all you are looking for is a heavy broadhead for a 5/16 shaft you can use any of the 11/32 or 23/64s with no problem. It will leave a slight "lip' behind the broadhead but since the shaft is smaller it wont affect penatration unless you are trying to pull it backwards. I've shot 160 snuffers for years on 5/16 woods and aluminum (2018s and 2020s).....the hill heads are very good BTW if you still go that route.
The outside diameter of the hill ferrule is about the same as 11/32 broadheads. The 11/32 will cover a little more shaft is the only real difference, if one is concerned about the lip, it can fill up with glue and be no different than the Hill. If shooting them into tough foam with either one, i would use the toughest glue you can. The white melt on worked good for this, but it is no longer available and epoxy is harder to get the broadhead mounted properly. I have been looking for the best melt on there is, the stuff I have now is affected rather quickly by heat and my dwindling supply of the white stuff is used with great reserve, usually just one broadhead out of the batch for the target practice.
sharpening them with a round 7/32 or 1/4 chainsaw file works really well. It follows the concave edge nicely.
Hvyhitter is absolutely correct. I shot 5/16 shafts with regular heads for several years; they work just fine. I also believe the shaft taper ending inside the broadhead taper makes for a much stronger point fit as there is no stress concentration where the hard edge of the broadhead meets the shaft taper.
We tried them out in South Africa a couple years back.
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Im my opinion there are a LOT of much better heads out there.
good luck
Andy
Thanks guys for the feedback.I really like my eclipse broadheads,I just wasnt sure how they would fit on a 5/16 shaft.Guess i learned something and saved some money too.
Paven that white melt(Ferrel glue) glue can be bought at most fishing tackle shops. They use it for fishing rod tips.
Hvy and Fletcher have it!
I have alot of 45-60 lb spined ramin and poc, 5/16". Have used all types of 11/32" braodheads.
Snuffers, zwickey, bear, grizzly, etc.
Made a dozen 46-48 lb, ramin for my son, birthday. Half with Bear Razors and other half, Pearson Switchblades. Fly great!
Sweetland made an addaptor to fill the gap on the smaller shafts years ago.
one of my best friends shoots them exclusively with great results, he loves sharpening them and they fly great from his Hills and his Welchmans.
I tried them and they did fly great but the kept breaking when shot into the broadhead target,, my buddy siad my arrows where spinning too fast for these because of the ribbet or pin I forget. But not only did I have a hardtime even getting the edge started I just wasn't impressed with them BASED on what else is out there. my buddy shaprens them to a sharp edge and then takes the corner of a file and drags it down the edge once for a serrated effect I guess but it workes for him and his Minimum 65# bows.
I will admit there is a Coolness with the hill heads..
TRADTUSKER what did you hit to do that?
I hit a hog with a Zwicky broadhead a few years back and it did the samething, bent the broadhead. I switched to Magnus and have broke through bones with no problem. Magnus are tuff.
Darren