I just became an associate sponser and will be posting leather goods here soon. Besides a "different" back quiver design I have going, I'm working on a hip quiver that converts to a shoulder quiver quickly. Just wondering how many of you hunt or compete 3D with a hip and if the combo quiver is something you'd like to see?
Give me any reasons at all that you don't like hip, shoulder, or back quivers also. I like a challenge.
I've been making leather and archery goods since 1989, my business was called Wilderness Quest if anyone remembers from old Traditional Bowhunter magazines. I made a ton of fur quivers with my own line of back and hip also. LOTS of custom work
Thanks, Dave
couple of pics of way back then!
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Dave I use a back quiver and my arrows are full length 32" and all the quivers I see are always to short.I would like to see a deep quiver(24-26") that would keep the arrows from moving around so much.JMHO
I hunt with a back quiver and shoot 3D with a hip quiver....to have one that could be both would be great....
I use a side quiver for hunting and think a duel purpose would be great. Going to start 3D this year so this would be great. Thanks Dave.
Keeping the Faith!
Magnus
One that you could use for everything would be great.
Andy, thats kinda what I have going on.
Tim, I dont really make anything stock, most work has been custom sized. But a great point, maybe a deeper model on hand than the traditional(22) inch size. Thanks guys, keep it coming.
Pics soon of the things I'm messing with.
I kept dumping or snagging my back quiver when I bent over or ducked under thornapples or through brush. The hip quiver (I have a plains style and a "bow-quiver-on-a-strap style) wasn't bad, but the hip didn't hold enough for small-game (I carry, blunts of various types & flu-flus and broadheads) and the plains style I couldn't see the head to know which I was pulling - same with the back.
A side-stalker - with the opening that allows me to see and select specific arrows - is the best choice for me. I can hang it from a branch or nail in a tree ( and pull from the top like a back quiver), get through thick brush by pointing it where I'm going and it holds a bunch of loose arrows or, with a foam block, keeps the broadheads from bashing together. In the rain a fletch cover protects the feathers and I can still pull an arrow. Does it all well.
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I would like to see a quiver that stays upwards so that arrows can be removed without pulling on the strap to bring the quiver upright. Also, the quiver should be quiet. A lot of firm leather quivers let the arrows rattle around. Heavy, but soft leather will after some use, adopt a shape that contours the users back.
I use both a back quiver, and a side quiver. The back quiver I use for 3D, and the side quiver for target. The side quiver catches a lot of branches walking the 3D trails, and for that a back quiver is better.
I am not sure of the difference between a hip and side quiver. I use a quiver looks like a back quiver but hangs from my belt/hip on a angled holder attached to the quiver. I love it and use it for everything but hunting. Bow quiver then. This quiver allows me to see/count/pic arrows as stumpkiller mentioned. I do need a new one also.
I dont use either,but if i did i would get one of your.They are very nice....Also,welcome to Tradgang sponser!
Should be a distinction, I guess, between belt mounted hip quivers and shoulder-strap hip quivers, and then whether with individual arrow clamps or loose carry. I usually consider a hip quiver to be belt mounted and a side quiver to be hung from a shoulder strap.
I consider the same as Charlie...
Now, with hip quivers, which I do sometimes use...I shoot with them facing forward for 3D, but backward for hunting so they don't catch on brush. I used this to make the new hip/shoulder reversible. You don't need to buy a left or right, you can just turn it around and the finish is the same. Score card pocket on both sides, I'll go take a pic of a prototype, its not the finished design, but the one that got me going.
I shoot 3D and I use always a back quiver. However what is a must for me: three straps! My shoulder strap is adjustable with a separate strap and three point front hookup. In this way your quiver stays secured and won't slip on another place or fall off. All three straps can be adjusted, so you get an perfect fit to your body.
Okay, here is the hip model which will convert to a shoulder side. But again THIS IS A ROUGH MODEL. Not finished. The quiver can be worn on the hip right handed or left, and can be faced either way frontward or backward. Whatever your preference. The belt attachment will come off and a shoulder strap can be put on instead in seconds. Knife sheaths can be added etc.
The "back total combo" is a whole different animal, that will be shown soon.
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looks good. i myself love to "collect" arrows and i usually carry about 20 or so when i go stumping/small game hunting that are all usually real long about 32"+. one that could hold alot quiet and is deep would be the ideal quiver for me.
I'm liking it. Looks good for roving, too.
Another thought - I have a 30-1/2" BOP arrow. That is tough to get through the woods in most quivers as it makes for 33" of arrow attached somehow to a 6'2" body. Your difficulties may vary.
i love that hip/back combo. let me know if you need a tester...
-hov
Those are cool, love the fur. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I use a hip quiver for 3D and hunting. I also shoot a long arrow and I like a longer quuiver and one that I can put tubes into or has dividers for the arrows and a pocket on the outside for a 24oz water bottle. I have a canvas one now that I use but it is short and there is alot of arrow exposed.
Frank X.
nice work Dave :thumbsup:
im diggin the hip-back quiver
id love to field test
also like hunting with a hip quiver could you modify to accept broadheads
kevin
I have tried them all, sold on a side stalker, hanging from my shoulder. Most are too short, should be long enought to hide the fletch, and have a short leather cap on end that can be removed, to protect from debris and rain. Mudd had one on here a while back someone made for him, I think to his specs, you could PM him and find out.
I hunt with bow quiver probably 95 percent of the time.Occasionaly hunt with backquiver.3d shoot with backquiver.
I use a Safari back quiver...my favorite thus far of any quiver.
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glenn
Can't wait to see the back side combo.
Keeping the Faith!
Magnus
Sweet looking stuff! Looks like a wolverine ran up that guys back and is about to bite him in the neck!
I like the back/hip combo. Very nice looking gear. Have not tried a hip quiver yet. Should Thanks
I use a HNH leather side quiver for hunting and a hip or pocket quiver for 3Ds.
i think there will always be a demand for back, side 'stalker' and bow quivers. i use all three, but mostly an efa bow quiver and a jack bowers stalker side. love the look of back quivers, but they're not as practical as the other two for hunting, imo.
Good for you Yornoc! Best of luck.
I rebuilt (several times) an older Bear hip quiver & used it successfully for near 20 years before switching to the HH heavy BQ. It is now completely broken in after nearly 4 years & I love it. Can't see using anything else.
I like it. What's the length of the quiver itself?
The old fur quivers are very neat
Will it work with Rage Expandables?
Just kidding - looks good and sounds like a good idea.
Nice work! I hunt with a side stalker and shoot 3D with a back quiver made from a yucca plant/tree. Got it from Sal in a trade!
Rick, the length is as long as you want it to be. Its all custom for the individual buyer. Any premaid stuff goes on the auction site.
Funny guy Bama!
Tom, got a pic of the yucca quiver? Sounds pretty cool.
I hunt with bow quivers that I detach as soon as I climb into my tree stand. I shoot in the backyard and on the 3-D trail with a hip quiver. I've just ordered a leather belt quiver from 3Rivers that is much smaller than the hip quiver I've been using. I'm curious about all leather back quivers for 3-D, not hunting -- I can't the idea of my broadheads touching. My arrows are 28" long so I'd want to make sure the quiver wasn't so deep that my feathers were damaged.
Personally I wouldn't be attracted to the fur quiver -- a little too traditional too basic for me.
I really like the fur quivers.
David,
I have used hip quivers for targets, bow quivers for hunting, and plains sytle quivers for both. The plains style that I took to CO last year had sewn sleeves for each 2 blade broadhead, allowing me to keep em sharp! The heads fit tightly in the quiver, so nothing fell out, but the convenience of a bow quiver in the thick, dark timber won out and I bolted one on after day 1.
My buddy used a bowquiver last year and a catquiver this year with a single arrow on his bow. We are both open to new ideas, and Joe is working on a variation of a tube quiver.
I am thinking that his cat quiver is upside down, and wondering if there is an option that keeps the broadheads protected, the feathers from getting wet, and is still convenient to withdraw an arrow. It is also a big plus if you can easily detach it from you pack to make a stalk or close the distance quickly.
You got any ideas?
Hugh in TN
BTW, I too love to look of your stuff. The leather prototype looks well made, and those fur quivers sure are cool! Ever make any out of groundhogs?
Hugh, your going to laugh. No quivers but I made a possibles bag out of a groundhog (woodchuck over here) that a guy killed with his ten speed bicycle.
More pics as soon as I can on the broadhead quivers. Hand is still broken so I'm kinda struggling.
That's nice looking work Dave. You do have a talent that most would really appreciate.
However, I've never been a hip or back quiver kinda guy and I have looked at all the bow mounted quivers out there.
Quite frankly I just couldn't find anything that I could afford.
So I installed bushings on the riser of my Bear Grizzly for a side mount quiver. The bushings cost about $4 bucks for 8 bushings from Rockler and my Tru Glo 5 arrow bow mount quiver cost only $30 bucks, which I already had on my wheelie bow.
It can also pull double duty on at least two different bows because it comes with an extra mount that can be installed on any bow with riser bushings just for that purpose.
I would like to see something that mounts on the bow itself that the common man can afford.
I can't really see a reason for things like this to cost an arm and a leg just because they have that traditional look.
While I would like to keep my equipment looking old school traditional, price and functionality means more than looks to me.
And while my set up doesn't have that traditional look about it, it works amazingly well for me and I didn't have to sell something else to get it.
That's just my input on the subject and that's the main reason why I shy away from custom bow quiver makers. For guys who can't afford to pay high prices for custom equipment like myself, we usually end up making our own.
Here's a pic.
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i have tried side stalkers- and found them a pain in the butt inna brush.
tried back quivers- too awkward- hank up in our dense brush
i now exclusivly use a cat quiver with a solo stalker on the bow- works awesome for me- the cat quiver just doesnt look very trad when i am out with my stick bows though!!!
am going to start using a hip quiver for 3D.
your stuff really is very neat.
regards
wayne
I often use a catquiver myself for longer hunts.
SEMO, the cost is why I started making things myself. I hear ya, what I'm trying to do is after the prototypes are complete, I will make them out of different grades of leather to get cost down. I'll offer premium latigo to cheaper oil tan and experiment with all in between., of different weights also. Thinner leather is cheaper, and can still make a rugged quiver. I almost fell over when I saw how much the Selway style go for. But for a company today, you have to make a lotta dough just to break even with all the costs involved. They don't make it easy on you to run a business in this country, thats for sure.
Oh yeah, I hear ya. Cost of materials these days is outrageous!
I'm not blaming the manufacturers, I know a guy has to make a buck or two to make it worth the while, but sometimes it seems like your paying more for a name than you are the product.
Capitalism is the beating heart of America and free enterprise is what makes this country great, but doesn't it seem like the more popular a product gets the higher the price goes?
Even when the cost of materials hasn't changed the price they charge climbs steadily just because they know people will pay it.
That's basically the point I was trying to make.
I don't mind paying for quality, but I'm in between jobs and on a tight budget so that's why I try to find ways around getting what I need to pursue my passions without taking out a loan even if it means using less than perfect or less than attractive goods. Or in most cases making my own and dreaming about having the good stuff.
My motto is....As long as it works, I'm happy.
I hope you have great success and business really takes off for ya. I envy your attitude and wish you all the luck.
I used a selway hip quiver on an Black bear hunt in Alaska, a couple of years ago. It was ok. But it was raining the whole time we were hunting and my broadheads got all wet and started to rust after a couple of days. I did't think about drying them until I saw the rust. Also when we crossed some creeks my quiver would get a good dunk if I did't think about lifting it out of the water. I think for those who like to use hip quivers it would be a good idea to be able to convert or change form a hip to a back quiver on the fly. I personally think that a bow quiver is the most practical quiver to use. Its always with your bow. Just my .02 worth.
Gilbert
Dave ,
I like the look of the side,back quiver, and the option it will provide. Can you post a photo of it on your side and back with arrows in it? Then I can decide. And Dave Best of Luck in the Future. Ken
Dave, nice work indeed, i like to use the Lakota side quiver when 3-d shooting ,it seems that they are always at hand , and when i bend over to pull arrows i dont have arrows slidding out over my head, when hunting with broadheads
i like them all on my bow , so if i were to fall, which i have , i dont get any suprise's...just my half cent worth! SteveT
I only use back quivers, and those fur quivers look like a nice addition to my rigs. Red Fox would be awesome.
i would love to see a back quiver with grippers in the top to stabalize my arrows an keep noise to a mininum. I would like to see these grippers on a hair-on quiver.
God Bless,
Nathan