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Title: experimenting
Post by: Tradesmen4 on January 08, 2011, 03:45:00 PM
Just got some 5575 Gold tips, full lenght and with 2 inch razer feathers. Going to try 250 grain VPA broadheads and see if they fly.My bow is 58Lb Tree stick 60" and I draw 29.5 if I'm measuring correctly.I have other bows of different lbs . One of them hopefully will work.
What do you think. Thanks Gre
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Title: Re: experimenting
Post by: rastaman on January 08, 2011, 03:47:00 PM
i think those are some pretty nice looking arrows!    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Tradesmen4 on January 08, 2011, 03:54:00 PM
I couldn'nt resist buying them they got the color I like seeing on my feathers. Thanks
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Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 08, 2011, 06:10:00 PM
pretty arrows but the fletchings are waaaaaaay too small for hunting with broadheads.
Title: Re: experimenting
Post by: Tradesmen4 on January 08, 2011, 06:19:00 PM
I have yet to find that out. Thats why I'm experimenting. If they are not suitable no animal will be harmed. Don't the other guys that we can't talk about use this style of fleatching in their setups. Just asking Thanks Greg
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Post by: Huntschool on January 08, 2011, 06:23:00 PM
Yes they do but its a "different kinda cat"....

I think you are going to find those "little fellers" lacking in the stabilization dept. as Rob said.

Neat arrows.  Ya got some good shafts...
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Post by: swampthing on January 08, 2011, 06:25:00 PM
With UltraEFOC and turbulators they should be just fine.
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Post by: Tradesmen4 on January 08, 2011, 06:28:00 PM
Well if they don't the frist time out they will before I'm done. Thanks and I'll keep you up dated.
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Post by: JamesV on January 08, 2011, 06:34:00 PM
The other guys have center shot bows and they say the small fletching works good with broadheads, I don't know. If your bow is centershot and you have a good release it could work, good luck and keep us posted.

James..................
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Post by: Possum Head on January 08, 2011, 06:34:00 PM
Couple years ago I tried 2" on some target shafts and was disappointed compared to 4 & 5".Let us know your result.They are fine lookin!
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Post by: vtmtnman on January 08, 2011, 06:41:00 PM
I used them on my wheel setup,and I tried the same arrows from my trad bows as well.I think if you're spined right they might work.One way to find out...
Title: Re: experimenting
Post by: Tradesmen4 on January 08, 2011, 06:44:00 PM
If the weather tommorow is desent, I'll give them a try.Bored and ready to experiment.
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Post by: Big Ed on January 08, 2011, 06:46:00 PM
Great looking arrows!!
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Post by: statedriller on January 08, 2011, 06:48:00 PM
Nice looking arrows.  And I can't wait to see your results.
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Post by: Dick in Seattle on January 08, 2011, 07:52:00 PM
I'm curious.... what is a "razor feather"?  Is this a new material or just a different cut?
Title: Re: experimenting
Post by: Huntschool on January 08, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
Well, see, Dick... if ya would get out and communicate with the world instead of shooting them straigh D shaped things ya would know all this.  

Oh yea, but then at yours and my age we would forget we heard it..  LOL
Title: Re: experimenting
Post by: Tradesmen4 on January 08, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
It's a 2' low profile fletching. They sell them in vanes for the other guys. These just happen to be made out of feathers. They are prety stiff. But I was always under the impression if your arrows were right you didn't need fletching.
So my thinking is tune the arrow untill it flys straight. They are full lenght and can be weighted up front to obtain the desired flight.
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Post by: owlbait on January 08, 2011, 08:32:00 PM
I think there are some threads around here from O.L. Adcock and Ashby about those fletches and setting up arrows for them. Tried them myself with fieldpoints and had decent results. The turbulator stuff is interesting, especially if you have time to tinker.
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Post by: South MS Bowhunter on January 08, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
There was a lot of posts back last year discussing the skinny strings and the "Turbulators" or short fletchings 1.5 to 3".  Dr. Ashby and others have tried it with success.  I'm like you if it bare shaft ok it should work with the BH and smaller fletchings.
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Post by: chanumpa on January 08, 2011, 08:50:00 PM
Well,they sure are nice looking!I think it will work well.I am awaiting your critque.
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Post by: frassettor on January 09, 2011, 07:53:00 AM
I agree with Rob on that to. The feathers are a bit on the small side. I use nothing but 5 1/2 inch feathers on my shafts.
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Post by: onewhohasfun on January 09, 2011, 07:56:00 AM
Go Big Or Go Home! lol
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Post by: Tajue17 on January 09, 2011, 08:05:00 AM
I shot the razors out of my compound and found they where loud,, Dick I think I still have some just for you if you want to give this a try on one of those huge 23/64 flying telephone poles you hill guys use.

if your bow bareshafts these perfect and it should be close with 200-250gr points you can use even 3/4 feathers if you want,,, if your getting a swing effect on the shot it will do the same thing to a certain point with the smaller fletch.      also rule of thumb is the broadheads shouldn't be bigger than the fletch if your not sure about spine,,, another thing is if you don't already do this you need to take a broadhead file and file the inside of those arrow nocks so they do snap on (or stay on) and stay while the arrow is hanging and then when you lift the bow quick they come off--> critical to bareshaft tuning I think.

if these fly good I'd love to see how a 2" wide treeshark or somethingn similer will fly out of it.

as for broadhead vs fletch size I have a bow here that bareshafts perfect out to 30yds my max BS distance.  I put a Treeshark on that arrow that spun perfect and it hit right on at 20yds.  my other bows that BS good always have a little sway with the big heads but this time its dead on OR I see no kick or drifting so itt can be done.
Title: Re: experimenting
Post by: Tradesmen4 on January 09, 2011, 08:11:00 AM
Well I went out and shot afew arrows with 200 grain field points. They flew pretty good. They kicked alittle to the left, but hit where I was aiming. I'm going to play with them later today with broadheads. Haven't shot in a couple weeks. My release could be the biggest factor.Not rushing out to hunt anything until fall ,I've got some time to play around. I don't always think inside the box.
Title: Re: experimenting
Post by: Tajue17 on January 09, 2011, 08:13:00 AM
kicking to the left is not good,, hitting where your aiming is what the compounds do (sometimes me and my friends)  But left is easy because your point is too heavy so try throwing a 125 if you have one laying around and see what it does.

depending on the kick you may need 150-175 (which as a test can be added on to a 125 with small washers or screw nuts if you have a scale.

everyone has that favorite way of holding the string but for now hold the string as un-obstructive as possible so hold it where it feels like its going to slide off accidently,,, this elimnates so much guess work and will get you good results faster.  

I've noticed in the end when I do use my favorite way of holding the string I lose a tad of speed and the spine becomes a hair stiff which is good for broadheads they say.
Title: Re: experimenting
Post by: Tradesmen4 on January 09, 2011, 08:17:00 AM
Thats what I'm trying later today. Thanks Greg