G'day All,
I've shot Hills for a little while now, and my favourite stringer had a big, tough leather pocket for the bottom limb tip, and a smaller, equally-tough leather pocket for the top limb tip that I trimmed to fit perfectly. However, I gave it away to a young bloke starting-out with his first proper bow, which happens to be a really nice Howard Hill Crocodile Bobcat. I thought I'd be able to replace it easily, but for the life of me cannot find it in any of the shops. 3Rivers and KustomKing have really cut back in their bowstringer options. Does anybody know the stringer I'm talking about and where to get one (or a few)?
I had until recently an Alaskan Bowhunting Supplies stringer, the fluro-coloured one made of webbing material. I bought it about eight months ago, and used it very happily with recurves. Wanting to shoot my Wesley Special, and without my favourite stringer, I decided to try with the ABS one. It said that it was for use with all bows, and even though I was sceptical, I tried. The stringer perished with a horrible noise. I e-mailed ABS about a replacement, but they informed me that they no longer make them and could do nothing to help me.
I'm somewhat scared to use my excellent Webster stringers, because I'm afraid the top limb tip will come-out of the large pocket (it doesn't fit in the small pocket). I believe that an improvement could be made on the Webster stringer by either making the two pockets larger, or adding a third larger pocket. Does anybody have the ear of the people whe make Webster stringers? Tim? These are great for recurves, but I just feel uncomfortable about them with my Hill.
The Black Widow stringer seems to be better suited to the smaller tips of the PLs and their various recurves.
I have in the past tried and given-up on Thunderhorn stringers for Hills. The rubber arrow head just didn't stay put on those narrow limbs. But I read that other people seem to use these for their Hills, so perhaps I need to try harder. My friend uses one for his Barry Johnson D longbow, but his limbs are wider, and better suited to the rubber limb grip.
So, a penny for your thoughts, gents? From what little I've gleaned, it seems many of you happily and successfully use the very stringers I'm scared to use. Any tips or advice?
Cheers,
Ben
I use the Selway longbow stringer and it works on all my Hills. Including my 70" Redman.
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i don't use bowstringers (kids, don't follow my poor example!) but i like the stringer than norm sends out with his blacktail bows - a ribbon of heavy cordura nylon, flapped over and sewn at the ends to make lip tip pockets. very easy to use on most any bow, and even super simple to make.
I'll second the stringer that Norm Johnson sends out with his Blacktail bows. I use it on my Hill style bow and it works great. They can be purchased from Blacktail Bows for $6 or $7.
SelWays for me on Everything ...
I use the push/pull method with the lower tip against the side of my foot. I've done it so long that it's second nature to me. I never forget my stringer either...
I like and use the BW stringer on my recurves and LB and it works great.
Push/pull, but only for Hill bows because the limbs can't rotate.
Ben I know the stringer you are talking about. I used to have one but can not find it. So since starting back I use the Sel-Ways longbow stringer and seems to work fine on my 3 longbows (Hill, Parsons, Great Northern). My self-bow I don't use one, but should I guess.
Earl
One of the welcome aspects of straight limbed longbows is the freedom from stringers-on a Hill style push pull works great! IMO anyway.
Well Ben,
I hope that I never have to get on here and tell everyone how foolish I feel because of the accident that I've just had, but I don't use a stringer either.
I string/unstring my bows just like Nate described. Have for decades. Lucky so far.
But, I do turn my head to the side while engaging the process.
Push-pull here to on straight limbed longbows.
Another push-pull for longbows here.
I use push pull unless the bow is heavy (for me) and/or longer than 66". My arms are short (25"draw) and as I push further out, I lose leverage. When I do need a stringer for a longbow, I use webbing one I got from Archery Past.
I always, always use one on recurves when I shoot them, and the one I use is one I made myself. Wide woven webbing with a flap sewn in the end, and a loop on the other end. The inside of the loop has had a layer of rubberized non-skid jar lid gripper material sewn on it and will not slide on the limb. Works very well. I have used it on longbows, but don't like it as it puts more strain on the upper limb than on the lower, since the loop is not at the end.
I've been thinking about sitting down and stitching up some pocket at both end webbing ones. I bought 100 feet of the webbing at a canvas supply store when I did the recurve ones.
Push-Pull for me too...works great and I never get caught without a stringer.
Spanky
Bass Pro shop has one made by Neet; however, $16.99 seems a little excessive to me.
I just e-mailed Craig about it, and it seems that the stringer I so dearly love might've been made by him and might've come with my first Howard Hill longbow a few years ago. I've asked him to send a couple. It doesn't take long to forget, eh.
I tried to do the step-through method on my longbow, but it is just too much for me, and if I persist I'll hurt something. Perhaps with a lighter bow, it'd be easier (well, I know it is). I did manage to string my heavy BW longbow once, with some adrenaline helping, but it bruised my foot and leg. I should toughen-up, but am finding that I'm growing less tough.
Push pull never used a stringer on a longbow.
With my bows, I have to put them between two trees and pull!
Matt
Raging water thier is a HH on e@@@ thats up you creek 110lb :bigsmyl:
Push Pull on longbows. Stringer on recurves.
I bought my stringer from craig years ago, it works great, and it fit's the hill bows perfectly. Darren
I'm too much of a weakling to use push-pull on my 75# Hill.
Hey, push-pull is the same as step-through, right? Or have I jumped to an erroneous conclusion?
Push pull is not the same as step thru Ben. One hand on the grip-pull. Thumb and forefinger on either side of the string loop-push.
Aha! Thank you, Bjorn! I imagine I would need shoes on, yes?
Actually, now that you mention it, I seem to recall Matt Kelly from Darwin using a leather belt around his ankle for such an operation.
None. I absolutely despise bowstringers for longbows. They work fine for recurves but for longbows, they seem slippy and very dangerous.
Not for me, thanks.
Okay, I tried the push-pull, and I don't stand a chance of winning without catastrophe. I think if a fellow did this sort of thing with lighter bows and worked up, it'd be a piece of cake; but starting with a 75# bow is hard. Not to worry, as Mr. Ekin will come to the rescue.
I thought that Ben should say that his bows are a bit stout for push pull stringing.I think it is dangerous for the man to string heavy LONGbows with the push/pull meathod. Hard to hurt a Howard Hill style bow this way but when you get your body all strung out on a heavy and long bow,and sinew/tendons starts to stretch. You might do a search Ben, seems I remember a build along for a simple stringer. BUT, it sounds like Craig will have you set up in jig time. best of luck.
I think you'd really have to work at it to twist a thick, relatively narrow limbed Hill style. I don't use a stringer on them. We used to string 'em all, (recurves too), w/o stringers back in the day. I never twisted a single bow but there are enough twisted 'curves out there to remind us to use a stringer. :archer:
I use the Black widow stringer for my Pete George longbow. In fact I use Black Widow stringers for all my bows and each bow has a stringer. I have seen bows, recurve and longbows broke because the person did not do the push-pull method or the step through method correctly.
I do not like the type of stringer that has a cup on one end and a loop with a pad on the other. I almost lost an eye when the pad slipped on the limb. It did leave a mark on my head.
Neet makes one leather/suede cups, nylon cord. Fit perfectly on the heavier Hills, use it reversed on lighter ones. Not sure of the weight spec but have not broke it on my 75#er.