Hi Folks, I read the forum often but never join in. However I do need some info. hopefully some folks can weigh in on.
just did a search for blood tracking dogs in order to learn what I can before buying a new pup. If I follow through on this idea, the new pup will be primarily a companion for fishing, walks and watching tv. Seems as though a dachshund might be the best choice for me. Two questions that maybe some of you could weigh in on. 1. Standard or Mini? I would prefer the smaller dog in the house. 2. Does anyone know of pups with tracking/hunting parents in the midwest? I live in central il.(while I'm sure the eastcoast whirehaires are worth every penny, they are way out of my budget)
I wouldn't buy a wiener dog on a bet! Nasty little hateful dogs. I think they are all mad because of the trick that got played on them with the short legs. That and they are always under your feet. Yuck. I would go to the pound and get a mutt with the size you like. A beagle mix, terrier mix, shelty, something like that. Make it a good friend first then work on the scent tracking.
I have a Toy rat Doxie (Toy rat terrier & Dachsund) Great little dog. She is 1.7 years old and I haven't started Her on blood trailing yet, but She does like going after tree rats.
Both breeds are hunting dogs, So I would bet She will make a great tracker w/ some training.
Shaun Webb has a nice article on blood trailing in the Winter 2010 TradArchers' World magazine. It features dachshunds, mostly. Tom
I actually bought a couple of Jagd Terriers for this very purpose. However, they could not be kept in the suburbs.
If you go with a working breed of dog, you may want one that was breed for pet quality and not hunting.
They will keep there hunting instincts and can be called on for them, but a dog from a line of hunters can be hard to keep.
The Jagd's are a solid blood tracker as they are one of the few terriers that actually track instead of just catch the scent in the air by circling down wind of an area.
Just about any dog can be trained to blood trail from what I understand. Pick a breed you like and train that dog to track blood.
Good luck.
Paul
I have two miniature dachsunds, one black and tan and the other red, both are the short haired variety. Of the two my red dachsund is more of the hunter. To date he has killed two squirrels in the backyard. I have never tried to tak him hunting or tried training him to hunt. Excellent little house dogs with their own unique characters.
NY Yankee, you must be familiar with the New York City variety with the Blumberg syndrome. Dogs are usually hateful when they around hateful people.
i have a mini dash , full on purebred , and she is so spastic , she doesnt understand sit or any command. she is very small , but still on the large end of mini.
she has recently had a herniated disk in her neck repaired , only to have her back degenerate. she has always been fed premium food , vets every 6 months , etc. well taken care of , never hunted or allowed to jump , and still have problems..
we had 3 others from the litter as well , but ended up finding them all homes when they were about 2. if i were you , i would look at full size , ant try to find one that is a slight mutt. the purebreds are known for being constantly spastic.
i will say one thing , when she goes in the back yard , you know right where the bunnies squirrels and mice have ran. she even went down a mole hole once and dug it out. so as far as that goes , they are very smart dogs , but the health and temperament were way off for me.
if youre intent on a dash , like i said try to find one bred for temperament , or get a mild mutt mix. all the dash mutts i have seen had a much calmer sense , and actually took direction.
just for reference , i am currently looking for a rescue brittany. i couldnt see the point in spending the money on a dog that cant even get in the car or on the couch...
good luck , keep us updted./
Dachsunds are great dogs if properly socialized, but they do have short man complex. I used to hate them, but my ex girlfriend had two minis and after living with them for a year and a half I love them. Her male thought he was part retriever, he even learned to swim and tried to retrieve some geese lol.
If you want one to use as a tracker dog I think you will be happy. They were orignally bred to hunt badger... But remember you must train them properly as they are very head strong, and the im getting a badger attitude is still in them :thumbsup:
I would start by reading Tracking dogs for finding wounded deer by John Jeanneney. For an on lead tracking dog the dachsunds are some of the best most prefer the German wire-haired.
Ron D,I about busted a gut at your Blumburg comment!!I was once an owner of one with no problems.Like DXH,need socializing.Had a bad one go thru my tennis shoe one time,yes my foot was in it.
I love my Dachshund,Had her since she was a pup. Had her spayed and she is the best dog I've ever owned. My best friend. Never a medical problem with her in 10 years. Have never hunted her but she has the nose of a hound,(amazing)I'd bet that if I trained her as a pup she would blood trail.I'm a believer in "a dog is a reflection of the owner". Mine's name is "Sweet" and she really is..
A beagle could be trained to blood trail quite easily, and this breed is not too large.
Most are quite sociable and not overtly aggressive if properly socialized.
And they have short hair, so their shedding isn't as big a cleanup problem as, say, a Chesapeake Bay Retriever's hair is.
And, as one poster mentioned, there are always a lot of mixed breed dogs who are in need of a full time home, that are in the pounds, and shelters.
Being a mixed breed doesn't mean they can't be trained.
Good luck in your search for a hunting companion.
R.W.
I've got two miniature's, a male and a female ages 5 and 3. Love them, absolutely love both of them. We also have a 4 year old basset and the three of them are the funniest, best little house dogs I've ever know. The daschunds have a heck of a personality. There also very smart but strong willed. They aren't the kind of breed that "wants" to please like a lab. You have to be firm enough to train them and make sure they know who's in charge. If you can handle that they pick up on stuff very quickly, good at problem solving and the two I've got are great little hunters. They catch squirrels and gophers, this year I decided to throw them on a blood trail (after I found the deer, and had taken it home) I put all three of them on it at the same time which might not have been the best idea but they followed the blood without once losing it, for about 150 yards right to the gut pile. I say get one, you won't regret it.
I went through this last year myself. I highly recommend the book mentioned above. In the end I couldn't justify the money for a full breed tracker for no more than I get to hunt "close" enough to home to use it. I ended up with a mutt ½ beagle ½ jack russell. Now I was sure she absolutely had no nose as she would bounce around till she found a piece of hot dog thrown on the floor as a pup. For the heck of it I tried training as per the book. It was like it triggered something in her brain as that's what I'm suppose to do! Several months of light training and this fall I shot two does with my bow that I was able to put her on! Man she's in a zone when she knows what we are gona do! Now I have no idea if she has the tolerance for a long difficult track but then again you don't know that about a full breed either however most reputuable dealers have a guarantee. With that said if I was planning on relying or using it alot I would go with a dealer if not give the dog you have or want a chance!
As for the size of the dog again the book makes good arguments for all sizes, but I ♥ my small mutt she fits right in my lap!
Maybe Marty will chime in about his Beagle, Peanut. I think he has a bow named after her.
I don't hunt with mine, but I've owned many other breeds and will never go back. :thumbsup:
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We (my wife) have a mini dachshund and if I had my way I would feed it to my lab. I cant tell you how many times Ive got up in the morning for work and stepped in poop :mad: Every one Ive been around likes to crap under beds and couches to avoid going out side.
I would strongly urge you to get in touch directly with John Jeanneney. His contact info is on his web site at John Jeanneney (http://www.born-to-track.com/john.htm) .
You won't find anyone more knowledgeable about blood trailing generally, and about blood trailing with dachshunds, on this side of the Atlantic. And he is a heckuva nice guy and very willing to help neophytes. His book is a must-have item if you're interested in blood trailing wounded game.
here's the deal
TEddy Moritz of Mahwah N.J. breeds the best dachsunds for hunting in the U.S. I have been a falconer for about 20 years and she is known well in the falconry community as THE breeder as many falconers use them for rabbit and squirrel hawking. I have been out hunting with some of them...pound for pound all I can say is OH MY GOD! After you hunt with one...it will change your life.
I use a German Wirehaired Pointer for my tracking...he is my bird dog, but I have used him to recover two of my friends wounded deer. The "Drahthaar" or the pure german GWP was originally bred for this sort of dual purpose and is shows...my Drahthaar is so good at it, it is sort of shocking to watch..almost scary he's so good at it... and is a true gamechanger as it basically means nothing can get away that has a mortal wound. The difference between pure trackers and a breed like a drahthaar is that when the deer or pig has been found, the drahthaar will take them down. But I love watching dachsunds hunt... holy smokes they are gamey little SOB's - love em!
I would encourage every single big game hunter out there to look into training their current dog...or getting into a breed developed to track/hunt fur....
some links about Moritz
http://borntotracknews.blogspot.com/2010/02/hawking-with-teddy-moritz-hunt-hard.html
http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/hunting/2007/09/varmints-beware
her contact info
Moritz Teddy., Rabbit Dachshunds., Miniature., Smooth, long or wire-haired. 200 Midale Mtn. Rd., Mahwah, NJ 07430. (201) 818-0362.
I had a dachshund, loved that dog now I have a shi tzu, (I'm sick of doggie haircuts !) my next one will be another dachshund ! Mine had a great personality, all my friends loved that thing, in fact they would bring him frenchfries from the local fast-food joint, he loved frenchfries !
He reminded me of my hunting beagles in so many ways, in fact you had to keep an eye on him or he would be tracking a rabbit and off to the woods ! I never used him for hinting, but he had a nose on him, like I said, my next house dog will be a dachshund !
In my former bow life with training wheel's I used to go visit Claude Polington of Oneida bows and he had a curled hair dachshund, that dog had a great personality and was in the bow shop all the time, I guess I've been lucky and not really seen one with bad personality, but I imagine there out there Lol
Dan
Sean, I sent you a reply to your email with some info.
Wow! Must be a real difference between the "hunting" and "pet" type dachshunds from some of the responses. Our Oskar is a 100% hunting bred dog, and he was easier to house train than our beagle, probably in line with our rat terrier, certainly easier than my wife's basset hound.
As to personality, he is a sweety, when hunting he's all business, but he NEVER and I repeat NEVER has bitten anyone. I will not tolerate it and if he ever gets that idea we'll have a discussion. Not at all snippy or aggressive with our other 3 dogs. I was worried as he is the first intact male that my wife or I ever owned, but have had no major issues with that and he is past his "teenage stage" now at 18 months old.
As to mini or standard.....you'll find more true hunting bred dogs in standard size (this should be between 15-20 lbs or so) than in mini simply because the primary size of hunting dogs in Europe is standard. There are some good mini hunting dogs, but they are harder to come by. All of the breeders I know of breeding for blood tracking are producing standard sized dogs.
As to coat type....long, wire, or smooth....it is the DOG UNDER THE COAT, not the coat that defines a true hunting Teckel. Don't let anyone feed you a song and dance line of bovine scatology otherwise. Our standard (19lb) smooth has tracked for, literally, hours in temps below 5F and never showed cold. Prey drive keeps a dog warm, not coat type.
Ryan
I had a dachshund. He is considered a tweeny. he is between a full size and a mini. I took him everywhere with me. I worked with him from day one and was very proud of how he turned out. I never worked with him on hunting or trailing that all came very naturaly to him.He would just go nuts to get into my canoe to go paddling and was the best little fishing buddy I had ever had till my children came along. He would stay right by my side as long as I had a fishing pole and would go nuts when I had one on the line.
His nose never left the ground when he walked. Of course it didn't have anywhere else to go being that close and all. He would go after anything and everything on the ground and would sit at the bottom of a tree if a squirrel was in it. He was all outside dog. He has an easy life now I have not seen him in almost three years. He was not really mine to begin with. The ex wife is the one who bought him and said it was hers but never did any thing with him. When she was done wih me she wanted "her dog". So now i'm sure he is still sleeping on that $700 sofa I paid for and is lovining every minute of it.
All and all what every you end up with it will be only what you put into it. You train it well and it will be a great dog for you to make memories with.
Wow!!!! I am overwhelmed with all the information. Had no idea the dachshund had so many lovers and haters. Would really like a dog that has a real desire to please, as this would be a real joy in the house and in the field. I usually only harvest a couple deer a year so a well rounded dog with good temperment would be desirable.
seanF - May be better people to comment than I, but owning and breeding dogs much of my life I wouldn't touch an off the street American bred bloodline dachshunds for blood tracking, but rather go with those European bloodline dachshunds "teckles" bred to hunt.
Do a search here on the topic.
I know I'll get scorched for this, but I owned a miniature dachshund about 10 or 12 years ago and was the dumbest dog I've ever owned, and as said, have owned many. He was beautifully marbled colored smooth coat from American bred bloodlines and I paid big bucks for him at the time. The dog never shut up and was so dumb, he wondered away from the house and never did find his way back home... truth.
My girlfriend's sister owns two mini's in long coat, and neither of them are the sharpest knives in the drawer either.
It's all about the pedigree.
Just my opinion, but I'll never own a dachshund from American bloodlines again... Okay, weiner dog lovers, flame away...8^)
funny...
I think it is true that there are only a few good U.S. breeders that are breeding and working hunting dachsunds from the right pedigree...
If you dont want pure distilled hunting insanity, then I would stay away from anything german. The rat terrier is my #1 pic for a good around the house/family mellow lapdog with some fairly serious hunting prowess.
Well, I don't have much experience with bloodtrailing dogs, but dogs in general, well, that's what I do for a living.
I own & operate aboarding kennel & dog grooming parlor (salon sounds soooo gay!) & I've been bitten by more Dachshunds than any other dog. It seems like 9 out of 10 are pure-bred bastards & the other 1 is half-bred bastard/retard.
Something to bear in mind, you're really not going to spend much time actually working a tracking dog, unlike a pointer or flushing dog, so choose a breed that makes for a good companion. If you prefer a smaller breed, a small Rat Terrier/Jack Russel - Chihuahua cross would make an excellent companion with a fantastic nose. Pretty much any dog can be trained to trail, if you start it young enough (personally I'd want to get it on blood no later than 6 months) & generall speaking Mutts make the best natured, least neurotic dogs. There are so many problems associated with all pedigree dogs that a little cross-breeding can really help a dog out. The little Jack Russel/Chihuahua crosses often misrepresented as Rat Terriers are, generally, the friendliest, easiest to train dogs I've ever come across that aren't Hounds.
A small bodied Beagle would also be a great choice, but they do need a lot of stimulation. They absolutely crave to work, otherwise they'll run to fat, but if they're well exercised, they are a pure joy to be around!
This is Tremble, my Jack/Chi cross. Friendliest, smartest little critter I've ever come across! Her personality fills the entire room!
Oh, this is her usual position whenever I'm reading. She's very 'anti-literature'
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My in-laws have a mini. He's dumber than a box of rocks, and sweet as can be. He literally cries and groans and whines when they leave the house, very dependent little dogs and yes they love to be on you or underfoot. He isn't housebroken at the age of two despite all efforts. Yes he bites people who come to the house to work. Yes he barks at ANYTHING that moves. Do I like him? Yes. Would I own one? No.
I would buy/adopt a rat terrier ANY day of the week, esp if I needed a small hunting dog.
WTF is "Bloomberberg syndrome" and how does NY have anything to do with anything? Sounds a tad anti-Semitic to me. I would keep those comments to yourself. Haters suck.
My jack russel will find any dear as long as you soak your arrow in bacon grease before you shoot the deer. :thumbsup: :goldtooth:
But seriously JR's have an incredible nose and can be taught to track just about anything.And you will tire long before they will
We have had two weiner dogs as pets, both with great attitudes, the little male we had would tree a squirrel in a second. However, the beagle is a great choice for all around dog and companion. I have raised beagles most of my life and if given a choice the beagle would be mine. Any breed of dog can have differing temperments, so it is a good idea to spend time with the puppies even before you select yours from a litter, research their parents and spend time with them, and ask questions. Be blessed in your search.
blacktailbowhunter,
Why couldn't you keep your Jagd Terriers in the burbs?
I have owned labs, setters, shorthairs, wirehairs, small munsterlanders and dachshunds. I figure I have one more one more good hunting dog life left afield (I'm 61). Just picked up a dachshund puppy for that last dog. So, I have voted with my feet.
You are also going to have to vote with your wallet. A good hunting stock dog of any breed is going to set you back at least $500 - $750 being the average these days. You are going to spend another several hundred on vet and food bills over the years.
Be careful that you are getting a dog from hunting not show breeding. Show dogs are only for looking at in this country - its different in Europe where dogs are more selectively bread to be good at what they are supposed to do first and then selected for looks.
Any hunting dog from a serious breeder is going to be a lot of work to train and live with. It will expect to work and if you do not provide this work it will make up its own projects - often involving a lot of damage.
If you have the resources and are willing to do your part, you will get great rewards. If you are not sure, get a pet dog. Get a sweet mutt from the pound or a companion breed.
There is a reason that labs are the most popular breed in the US. They are easy and friendly. Some are even good hunting dogs.
All that considered - I like a dachshund. A lot of dog in a small package.
my last dog was a beagle she was a great companion and tracker . I got her at the animal shelter , you could try there . You have to get what you like . Companion FIRST than tracker hopefully . lol Duker
I am a little suprised by some of the comments about dachsunds......I guess we got lucky with ours. I have one of the Jeanneney wirehair dachsunds. She is a GREAT tracker but more importantly a great family pet. When we bought her from John and Jolanta, they asked alot of questions to make sure they gave us the right dog. We have kids and another small dog in the house and so John gave us the smallest female in the litter. She is the family favorite pet and is even more popular in hunting camp, especially after finding someone's deer.
Lot's of folks in Texas use the wirehaired variety for tracking dogs. I've seen some outstanding wirehaired Dachshund trackers.
Personally, I just can't see running around with a hairy wiener dog on a leash saying "Yep, that there's my tracking dog!" :clapper:
LD
I think you are seeing that there are really two types of Dachshunds in the US - the "working" type and the "show" or "pet" type.
Please, if you have negative experience with the "pet" type don't pretend to be expert with the working dogs....they are not even the same breed. Rob - if you get out my way let me introduce you to Oskar - I think he'll change some perceptions you have about Dachshunds.
These dogs were developed over hundreds and hundreds of years in Europe for one purpose...TO HUNT. "Dachshund" translates to "badger-dog" in German and they were originally developed to go underground and throttle badgers - and a 20 lb wiener dog can take a 30 lb badger if he knows what he is doing. They are THE versatile hunting dog in Europe. Unfortunately indiscriminate breeding and putting "form" over "function" in the US has virtually destroyed the hunting instinct in the "pet" or "show" dogs - and led to many of the health and temperament problems people talk about. This is very similar to what was done to the cocker spaniel and is currently being done to Labrador retrievers by non-hunting breeders.
Ryan
Ryan, just spoke with the gentleman in Mich, you emailed me about. Very helpful, and he loves his dachshands. He has one with european bloodlines and another he found in the newspaper. They both track great and are great pets, but he finds that his "go to dog" is the one he found in the local paper. Not that the teckel is any less of a tracker, rather he has tracked with the other so long, he reads this dog a little better. One thing he emphasized is the time involved in working with whatever dog one chooses. Still not sure which breed for me, but I am sure learning alot from tradgangers!!!
What about Bloodhounds and Coonhounds.
My experience with beagles...stubborn, dumb, and don't shut up when they should. Jacks...hyper, yippy, good hunters. Coonhounds...howling, loud, stubborn. Dachsunds...loving, smart, great trackers, not to loud. Train em up, great companion and deer/hunting dog.
I got a mini 4 years ago- liked him so much I got another last year. They definately have personality, I laugh my a*# off constantly with these 2 little clowns running around. I never really tried to train them but they have great noses. If I were to get another dog- without question it would be another dachshund
We have had Dachshunds! Great dogs with such personality.
QuoteYou are also going to have to vote with your wallet. A good hunting stock dog of any breed is going to set you back at least $500 - $750 being the average these days. You are going to spend another several hundred on vet and food bills over the years.
I hear ya. From my experience, the purchase price means little in the long run. I have receipts to prove it!
QuoteBe careful that you are getting a dog from hunting not show breeding. Show dogs are only for looking at in this country...
Good point. I have one beagle from hunting stock and one show dog. Though I don't hunt them, the first is a real squirrel hound. The show dog is clueless. (But cute.)
Owlbait. Forgive me, but Beagles and other hounds may be stubborn, but they are not dumb. Retrievers, for example, are breed to assist the hunter. Hounds are breed to LEAD the hunt... Independent thinking takes a whole lot more wit than blind obedience. They think they should have a reason for doing what you want them to do... Food usually does it. ;)
My Dachshunds are from the Jeanneney line. Their personalities are as sweet as can be. I think I have more fun tracking that hunting sometimes. Half of Tilly's litter went to Trad Gang families. I cut the price in half just so I could see them here. The remaining pups are with hard core bowhunters from Florida to Maine. They are all people friendly house pets that have tracked a lot of game. The German line is completely different than the American Dachshunds...Doc
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Tilly & Cash (her pup on top)
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The American show ring has screwed up not only dachshunds, labs and cockers, but many a fine breed, including Brits and setters, and on and on. The American field trials hasn't helped the sporting breeds any either with they're fast wide ranging dogs.
The best dog I ever owned was a yellow Labrador with a long English bloodlines. He had a big block head, was short, stocky, and powerful with a wide back and big otter tail. Aside from color, he didn't look much like the labs in America today.
Go look at the old pictures of the original working bulldog. Doesn't resemble anything of today's standards. Americans sure have screwed dogs up...8^)
There are pets, and then there are working dogs. Again, it's all about the pedigree....
My vote for a tracking dog would be one that is very easy to control, and is still capable of doing the job.
Little dogs can be easily picked up can be removed from immediate danger with a stout pull on a chest harness. Up and under your arm in a flash. Plus they are not pulling your arm from its socket as you try to keep them from getting tangled in the brush.
Michigan law requires a dog to be on a leash when trailing. (only sensible)
My Basset Hound was huge and very muscular. He was akin to holding back a 4 wheel drive pick-up
locked in 4 "low" and granny gear. I never stumbled across a porqupine while trailing, but I imagine it is eventually a probability.
Little dogs, little appetites...little poop... little beds...little water bowls...little messes...BIG hearts.
Daschunds, fit the bill nicely.
Everybody has a favorite, and rightfully so.
Pretty good thread. I think doxies done right are one of the best trailing/tracking breeds out there. I will agree with just about everyone on the smart/dumb comments. That applies to every breed imo. Go to Petland for your hunting dog? You shouldn't be surprised if you wind up with a bimbo....:-)
I wanted a tracker. The teckels didn't appeal to me, mainly because of my lifestyle. We live on a farm and have almost unlimited space for a dog. I wanted a bit larger breed, and not a primary house dog. Predator and nuisance critter control is one of my objectives, along with deer recovery. Needed a dog that can crunch a raccoon, skunk, opossum, stray cat, groundhog...and keep the coyotes off my lawn.
I did a ton of research, and yet it was a clue I received from TG that led me to our puppy. We selected a Deutsch Drahthaar for our needs. I'd like to thank whoever it was that mentioned them. It took 9 months....my phone rang and it was my most-preferred kennel calling. I was given #1 pick of their (then) upcoming litter. That litter has been whelped now, and the pups are 2-1/2 weeks old. I've seen "our" puppy online, but still haven't made the official pick yet. That happens in 2 or 3 weeks. I am, to say the least, a very happy guy. I'm really looking forward to these next months and years!
This is a pic of the mother, "Ava vom Schlussstein"...
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Deutsch Drahthaars have to be the most versatile and easy to train hunting dogs ive encountered except from a few cross-breeds.
And yotes, racoons etc. shoulnt be any problem at all, they are really strong. A friend of mine has one and it drags roe deer out for him if he lets it.! :eek:
Great Pics and good loving story Tippit!!
I also think that doxies make great tracking dogs, and they also love to dig. As far as temperament goes, that can vary from dog to dog.......so don't blame a bad one on the entire breed.
Labs are my favorite of all dogs because of their intelligence and ability to learn.
They are also great with people and they can be taught to do anything you want them to.......it's all in how you train them.
I read an article not too long ago about doxies and deer tracking. I can't remember what magazine or who the breeder/trainer was??
But I think he was from right there in Illinois if I'm not mistaken??
He said that he likes doxies for their portability, they are small and he can just pick his up until he's ready to put it on a track, or he can quickly pick the dog up to get it off track if he needs to. You can't do that with most any other dog......so the minis get a strong vote in that category.
Boy those little guys sure love to get after them squirrels don't they??
All we had to do was say the word "Squirrel" and our mini doxie Pee Wee would go nuts!! He even tried to climb the tree to get at em!
The only problem I've had with Tilly's pup Cash is she wants to hunt Too Much :) We keep them in our 1 acre yard and away from the horses with the shock collar system from Home Depot. Cash needs the Stubborn dog collar set on the strongest level as she always has her nose to ground forgetting were she is.
While I was hunting Iowa with Tilly, I got a frantic call from my wife...Cash bolted through the shock line and was gone. Molly later found her on a deer carcass that had been hit by a car. The deer had to have run by our house 25 yards beyond the shock line and some 300 yards into the woods. Well Cash couldn't take NOT tracking that blood smell through the air! Molly couldn't even scold her for she did what she was bred for...Doc
Hey Sean - Have a litter of Morkie-Poos coming in about 7 weeks if you're interested...8^)
Kevin, a VDD dog is a great choice! I have had 3 and they were all exceptional in every way. If I was younger and still bird hunted a lot I would have another. Here is a picture of the best of them - Buck v Hinterwald. He could seal the deal on upland, waterfowl, fur and even blood track. He regularly dispatched varmints with extreme prejudiced.
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Here is a picture of my new dachshund Graetsche. She will be 4 months old at the end of this week. We teamed up on this squirrel today.
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tippit, thats funny as all get out, I can hear the wife calling telling you about it! LOTS of good looking dogs on this thread, man nothing like a good dog especially when it's a working dog!
Shaun, I'm so glad you came out to the campfire at Whip's tent at the Compton shoot last year - Who knew what a beautiful pup would come out of that! I think I'm seeing true love....
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Hey Shaun, tell me more about Graetsche please?
I have a mini red dach. He found my buck this year after an incredibly long track job. My arrow took out one lung only and the deer went a mile. I tracked it till dark to the edge of a field. We went back the next day and looked and looked and i finally gave up until i called the wiener and he cam back with white hair on his muzzle. He took me right to it then. This dog retrieves better in the water than either of my high powered labs. Try the doxie. Monte is one if not the best dog ive ever had.
My Drahthaar and his latest recovery - a liver-shot deer that we would have never seen again without him. Although my buddy was innitially mortified about it all and hanging his head as anone would with a lost animal...we put the little draht on it and it turned into the most fun hunt I have ever been on. The germans knew what they were doing when they came up with that breed.
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Nice pics and nice dog montucky. That's what I'm talking about right there! I have spent a significant number of hours in research, and have come to believe the Drahthaar is a phenomenal versatile hunting dog. I'm amazed at the VDD standards that go with their breeding programs. They practically guarantee the dog will be a fine hunter...or better...as long as they came from a VDD breeder.
I've also enjoyed the doxie pics on here. Shaun, that is one very fine looking pooch in your arms. Hard to believe that much hunting heart is contained in such a small package.
Here's one of the pups we're looking at:
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Here is my teckle CHOWDER, breeder is Sia Kwa from NC. He is a cousin of Ryan's Oskar. He has just turned a year old. He is an awesome retreiver and has made quick work of all his artificial blood trails. I haven't been able to get him on a live trail. But we are trying again this week-end! 25 lbs. and a heart of gold, I love thess dogs!!
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I have one of Jeanneney's pups as well and he's an awesome pet. He's all business when tracking, this is his third season and he's doing great. When he's home he's as worthless as any other house dog. He's great with kids and other dogs. My limited experience with these dogs has been great. (I hope I sized this photo right)
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TTT for my best friend!
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Well, I actually found a man in central Il that had two of the Jeaneneys dogs and invited me over to take a look. I was very impressed with their strong build and friendly personalites. I can see where these little dogs work their way into their owners hearts. Seems as though the dachshunds started out slow in this topic and have finished strong. Thanks to everyone who shared their thoughts.(sorry Zbone, can't bring myself to even say morkie-poo, let alone own one)
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Having seen and read all the posts on these little dogs it's very apparent, if well breed, they are super trackers and companions. My introduction to Dachsunds came at a very early age. Good friends of my parents had one and I can remember as a 7 year old sitting in the back seat of my parents car with my 6 year old sister crying as we were heading to Janice and Ed's for a visit. My parents would sit in the kitchen drinking coffee and chatting and my sister and I would sit on the sofa paralyzed. We knew if we so much as moved, blinked or breathed that little "weiner" would be on us. He would just sit there and stare at us waiting for his opening to attack. Even after 47 years it's been real hard shaking that first impression developed at a young age. I'm not embarrassed to say "I'm not a wiener man" :)
Michael, If you're going to be at Bear Quest this year...You'll get to meet Tilly and/or Cash. I promise they'll let you off the couch :) Doc
Doc, I'll be there and I just might start liking them wiener dogs :biglaugh:
Too bad seanf, now I have two litters on the way... :)