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Title: does any one use a release?
Post by: jim phenes on September 10, 2010, 04:06:00 AM
I know its not traditional but i blistered my fingers so bad before i ordered my shooting glove from three rivers, so instead of laying off the target shooting i figured why not. I dont plan on using a release during hunting season but untill i get my glove its the only way i can shoot every day. hope i didnt give any one a heart attack by saying the r word!
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Keith Karr on September 10, 2010, 07:30:00 AM
I've been shooting with a release for two years now. Don't care if I'm traditional or not. It's just a matter of necessity for me (two bone spurs in the knuckle of my ring finger).

If you continue to shoot with the release and need any help/advice, give me a shout.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: stuckum on September 10, 2010, 07:49:00 AM
Do what you can to get it done.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Mudd on September 10, 2010, 08:04:00 AM
When my joints give me problems I use my homemade palm tab. a non-mechanical leather release aid just like my Bateman only different.

Nothing changes as far as my anchor or how my arrows fly and hit.

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God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: koger on September 10, 2010, 08:50:00 AM
There were several releases used in the 60's and 70's, do what you can to keep shooting, keep muscles toned up.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: huntin_sparty on September 10, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
Very cool Mudd!
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: ronp on September 10, 2010, 09:12:00 AM
I tried a trigger release a few years ago for the heck of it.  I tied a string loop on and gave it a try.  My arrows flew terrible.  I don't know if I am correct, though it appeared the release prevented the arrows from bending around the riser (paradox???).  The arrows may have been smacking the riser an the way past.  Again, I am not sure that was what was happening.  At the time I thought a bow would need to be cut way past centershot to be able to use a release.  Anyway, give one a try.

Mudd, how cool is your homemade non-mechanical leather release aid?  WAY!
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Mechslasher on September 10, 2010, 09:12:00 AM
i can't use one, but thumbrings have been around for a thousand or years.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Mr Green 740 on September 10, 2010, 10:09:00 AM
Excellent Mudd!! A good friend of mine shoots a release due to arthritis. We went to a bow shoot and instead of asking about it the people running it made a scene like he was cheating or something. We went to shoot to practice and didn't even keep score. This made him not even want to go to any more shoots. People should use common sense and not get all fired up about what is and what isn't trad.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Mudd on September 10, 2010, 10:45:00 AM
Maybe I should change what I call mine..lol

I think I'll just call it a palm tab.

It works just like my Bateman tab, just as quiet but it's more like shooting 3 under.

Seriously it is as quiet as shooting with my tab and I can hit with it as easily as my tab.

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Canadabowyer on September 10, 2010, 10:52:00 AM
Arthritus in my hands so bad I can't shoot with fingers so I use a release. Better than not shooting.I don't keep score at 3-D shoots and everybody is cool when I explain its a release or nothing.  Bob
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Bowwild on September 10, 2010, 10:53:00 AM
ronp,
Were you shooting off the shelf or an arrow rest with the "trigger" release? I would think if you shot off an arrow rest (I do but with 3-under fingers)the release aid would work ok? The string does roll off the fingers which applies a completely different type of action to the arrow and thus a change in paradox. Paradox is present with every set-up and release style but different between set-ups, release styles, and even archers.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Gordon Jabben on September 10, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
I read in an old archery book where someone used a release in the 1890's, I think it was.  They wouldn't let him compete in the York Round although they let him shoot.  He also had an injured hand.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Gordy on September 10, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
Thanks for posting that Mudd !  I think one of my old belts is about to become a 'mudd's palm tab release' !
Very cool.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: raideranch on September 10, 2010, 12:40:00 PM
I made a release similar to Mudds but I couldn't hold the same weight with it and it put the string more lateral to my eye.  I tried a mechanical release just for the hell of it one time but it put my anchor extremely low.  I couldn't even see my target when I shot at 20 yards with an average size sight window on my Morrison because I had to aim so low.  I've never tried a thumb ring but will sometime if I get the chance.  3 under works great for me.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: jim phenes on September 11, 2010, 07:16:00 AM
I am surprised that many of us do use releases, I was a little embarassed to post this question thinking I might get some angry responses!  I am more used to a release because of my compound shooting in the past but plan on trying to use fingers hopefully this glove will help protect my fingers more than the work glove.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Big Ed on September 11, 2010, 08:32:00 AM
Use what works for you, It is all about enjoying the flight of an arrow!!!
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: PhilNY on October 07, 2010, 11:02:00 PM
I remember target shooters in the early 70's shooting all manner of rope, spike and even a rare thumb release but nothing like Mudd's, that is really cool. I even remember a guy who used a teaspoon attached to a small block of wood. The thing about shooting is that you have to just get out and shoot and making it a fun and comfortable experience seems like the best way to keep going.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: gillchaser on October 07, 2010, 11:28:00 PM
I sure would like to know how to make one of those "palm tabs" . With arthritis in my hands and tennis elbow , I may have to go to something like that before long . Black Widow used to sell something similar to that  called a strap tab . gillchaser
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Mudd on October 08, 2010, 12:58:00 AM
gillchaser I sent you a pm with pictures.

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on October 08, 2010, 03:44:00 AM
Very cool, Mudd. My good friend, and columnist of "Topics from the Tropics" in "Archery Action" magazine, Tony Jensen, used a release aid for a little while after I converted him to traditional bowhunting.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: ron w on October 08, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
If your having fun and the arrows are flying where you want them to.... then have at it. Who cares what somebody else thinks. I have arthritis in my hands at some point I may need a gadget to shoot, when that time come I'll have one!!
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Mudd on October 08, 2010, 08:51:00 PM
Easy to make from an old belt, easy to use.
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Palm Tab-
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God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: knobby on October 09, 2010, 10:04:00 PM
I'm into my second season using a release, and it's made shooting fun again. I've tried everything else in a battle with target panic, and this has given me the best results. I don't turn in scores at shoots anymore, but I don't care. I write VOID across the scorecard right in front of the guy that took my cash, then go out and have fun. Anyone having a problem with it, I show them the "voided" card, and continue with my fun. Do whatever it takes to keep your archery enjoyable.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Walt Francis on October 10, 2010, 12:32:00 PM
Mudd, that is a great idea.

I know several people who used a release to help cure their target panic.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: Gordy on October 10, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
Just reading the words 'target panic' gives me the yips !   ;)

:scared:
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: royking on October 17, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO KEEP SHOOTING
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: NC BowBender on October 17, 2010, 03:05:00 PM
I have been playing with an older release from the 70-80's since I pulled a muscle in my back big time and having trouble with my broke-in-3-places wrist.It's called the Trophy Hunter release. You place it onto your serving under the arrow, and it uses 2 ball bearings in a sleeve. When you pull the release, it allows the sleeve to go forward, and lets the ball bearings to slide sideways, releasing the serving.

It allows me to use my back to hold the weight straight through instead of transferring the pressure on my arms, wrist and finger.

I think that they don't make them anymore, but I picked 2 of them up for less than $10 each. They were advertised as "vintage" releases.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: atatarpm on November 07, 2010, 10:39:00 AM
shooting with a release can change the arrow spine and will change the arrow speed up to as much as twenty fps. i have been using a release for two years now. once and a while i have someone say something about it, but not that often. and there are some matches i can't compete in. how ever that is what is required for me to keep shooting and therefore that is what i will do.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: damascusdave on November 07, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
Mudd, that is a truly classic "peering over the glasses instead of looking through them" pose in your last picture. Reminds me that I need to get one of those elastic straps to keep my glasses where I want them. Otherwise at the moment of truth they will be where yours are, out of the (sight) picture.
DDave
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: damascusdave on November 07, 2010, 11:42:00 AM
I am now the proud owner of two Winn Free Flight C12 relax type releases (bought the second one on flea bay for $11.50). They work a lot more like a finger release than others. On occasion I will fool around with one on my target bow. In fact I am going to go out and try one right now, for when I go goose hunting this afternoon with one of my recurves.
DDave
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: steve schrank on November 21, 2010, 09:19:00 PM
i dont use it but there is wooden non mechanical release plans in one of the old instinctive archer magazines
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: SOLDIERII on December 11, 2010, 11:19:00 PM
Try using a BW tab, easier on the digits
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: USN_Sam1385 on August 04, 2011, 10:48:00 PM
Just got a wild hair up my butt as my target panic is trying to creep back into my life. So.. I grabbed my mechanical release for my "C" bow and said what the heck.

What I found blew my mind.

Upon getting ready to squeeze the trigger of my mechanical release, my right shoulder involuntarily lurched forward. Mind you, I didn't actually hit the release, so this tells me that it is mental muscle memory making me 'collapse' right before the shot.

I had nooo idea that I was doing that.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: COLongbow on August 04, 2011, 11:13:00 PM
Mudd, not commenting on your release, but my arrows are pink like yours, and your do-rag ROCKS.
Title: Re: does any one use a release?
Post by: fireball31 on August 05, 2011, 12:42:00 AM
I used a release for a while when I broke my middle finger. It seemed like my bow was way louder than normal.