In the last paragragh Don Thomas mentions some bowhunting icons having feet of clay, some even trad archers.
What happened? Who is he referring to? Thanks. Mike.
I just saw that and was wondering the same thing!
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Hmmmm. I just read that also....I don't know if something specific happened, or if it's just a general commentary on creating heroes?
Regardless, I think it's a point well taken. We (not just in our traditional bowhunting life)need to be careful whom we put up on that pedastal.
QuoteWe (not just in our traditional bowhunting life)need to be careful whom we put up on that pedastal.
Words of wisdom.
I've done exactly that with some of my so called "Heroes" over the years and put them in such high regard that nothing could touch them, only to be let down in the end and cast them aside into the ditch of broken egos.
Afterall, we are just men.......and men are prone to disappoint for we are but human.
didja ask don what he meant? he is accessible.
QuoteOriginally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
QuoteWe (not just in our traditional bowhunting life)need to be careful whom we put up on that pedastal.
Words of wisdom.
I've done exactly that with some of my so called "Heroes" over the years and put them in such high regard that nothing could touch them, only to be let down in the end and cast them aside into the ditch of broken egos.
Afterall, we are just men.......and men are prone to disappoint for we are but human. [/b]
Well spoken sir, I too have had the greatest respect for some in our sport only to be dissapointed or discusted in the end.
We should remember that it was usually others who made those "Icons" into "Legends".
One man's comments does not reflect on ALL of those so titled.
Besides, like Rob suggested; you could always ask ....'whata ya mean, when you say.....??'
FEET OF CLAY
a weakness or character flaw, especially in people of high station.
if you say that someone you admire has feet of clay, you mean they have hidden faults Some of the greatest geniuses in history had feet of clay.
See also: clay, feet
FEET OF CLAY - Definition
(n.) Weakness or hidden flaw in the character of a greatly admired or respected person
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I did ask, haven't heard yet.
I am trying to think of any I can exclude.
None come to mind because we are all human and therefore we all fall short at times.
Maybe I just need to extend more grace and quit looking at anyone else's feet.
God bless,Mudd
Mr. Thomas' words are thought provoking and correct.
We are all human, and therefore prone to make mistakes. Perhaps someone in the Trad circle has just made a mistake, either legal or ethical, or who sold out to high tech money train.
Or perhaps he was pointing to Icons of the past, like Howard Hill, who shot snared or gun wounded animals, and claimed them to be "bow kills". Or Fred Bear, who at one point in the 70's favored making poison arrows legal.
I enjoy reading Don Thomas' work, as he makes one stop and "THINK".
I agree hit-or-miss. We are human and everyone of us has a little something we are not prod of. It's hard to be perfect
Seems like a fair enough statement for all of us to consider. Maybe even a bit self-reflective. A Master/Icon/Legend in one specific field doesn't always translate into perfection in all areas. Wow! TBM does make some interesting topic starters at times!
I understand what Mr. Thomas meant by idol worship and I understand what the definiton of feet of clay is.
The way he worded the last paragraph would lead most people to believe that he is speaking of a specific and recent event.
Mike, I thought the same thing, that he was referring to a specific and recent event or a certain person. I can't think of any, though.
I think Mr. Thomas has a specific person and events in mind. Everything needs a grain of salt, many of our past heroes have done stuff that judged in today's context might be interpreted by some to be objectionable. The author of the 'Witchcraft of Archery', can't remember his name-and I am too lazy to get up, talked about killing a hundred fifty or so songbirds-today that would make a person a villain-does that change your opinion? Fred's shooting a lion after dark, his thoughts on the POD. Past archery heroes killing animals at 80 yards. Howard's elephant; on and on.
Yesterday we admired Joe who was such a great hunter- first one out and last one back into camp. Today some would say Joe is a poacher because he walks in the woods after sunset with his bow and arrows. Criteria change, opinions change and we find out new facts, and sometimes people change too. Yes we can make heroes too quickly, or judge them too harshly when they disappoint, most of the time we are told who to revere and whom to disrespect-let's just make up our own minds.
Perhaps Mr. Thomas wasn't specifically referring to a traditional bowhunter but rather a certain celebrity bowhunter who pleaded" no contest" to game violations in California. Either way, his point is well taken.
Sure some of the old time traditionalists I still admire and respect a few living today, but learned a long time ago (probably about 15 years or so), don't have look too deeply into so-called icons to find impurities.
We're all without fault, but personally, I'll never put a man on a pedestal and some of these so-called celebrity hunters seen on TV today make me want to puke.
Witchery. . . not witchcraft . . . of archery
By Maurice, one of the Thompson brothers.
ChuckC
The only hero I ever had was Roy Rogers king of the cowboys, and he did shoot a bow.
Everything I ever heard or read about him never changed my mind. He will always be a hero to me, God bless Roy.
I haven't found one yet to compare to, so I guess I won't be disappointed.
Every man that has ever lived had/has "feet of clay."
That includes me, you, and Don Thomas.
Thank you ROOSELK! The best thing about this topic is not the answer, but the questions and introspection it produces.
I have a couple guys I have had the pleasure of meeting right here thru trad gang, thru correspondance and a recent hunting trip shared with one of them... definately no clay on their feet... :wavey:
Great commentary from you guys,nobody's perfect and we all make LEARNINGS.
The only way to avoid "feet of clay" is through clairvoyance. And who possesses that? No one! Respect for others, but no idolatry. Nobodies perfect.
Keep things simple, keeps things loose. Both eyes open, and on the road. Do the best you can do in all things. You are you, so be you and be happy about it. The rest will take care of itself. :)
Hey Whittler. Roy is a hero of mine also and he did shoot a bow. I visited the museum in Branson, now closed I bellive, and his bows were in the museum. I have a photo somewhere.
I actually sent emails to the Roy Rogers Museum and the Pope and Young club when I heard that the museum was closing. I thought that maybe Roy's bows could be moved to the P&Y museum but I never heard from either of them. Take care. Mike.