I am quite interested in obtaining feedback with respect to 56" and under - two piece take-downs vs. a single piece. Additional wt for stability is a desire for me however some two piece take-downs wt increase is negligible. Please provide the advantages and disadvantages, from your point of view, with respect to a 56" and under two piece take-down vs. a single piece. Your candid responses would be both quite welcomed and appreciated. Thank you.
Would sincerely appreciate some feedback.
I have several bows made by maddog. One is a 2pce takedown w/ a bow bolt. The 2 pce shoots the same as my 1 piece bows. Nice to have if you travel to hunt. I had mike make this for my Africa hunt this summer. My bows are 51" and 52".
Friend,
It appears you are asking about longbows and I don't have any experience with those bows. I do have 2, 56" TD recurves though (Checkmate and Bear Supreme). I really like the Bear.
I like the TD because it is heavier than a 1-piece of the same length and material.
Trying to decide if you want the TC in a 2pc or 1pc I'd guess?
I don't have a 2pc that short, but my Big Jim Buffalo is 60" and a 2pc. I love it, and the only thing that differentiates it from a 1pc, is that it comes apart. Jim's carbon sleeve is very lightweight and doesn't add the weight that metal sleeves do. I love the versitility of the 2pc while retaining the feel and looks of a 1pc.
If Kip (Coaster500) doesn't chime in soon, you might want to PM him about his "Twins", he has two 2pc TC's.
It is always going to be a matter of opinion. Some two piece designs leave a lot to be desired and I could see where it wouldn't be as nice as the same in a one piece. If you don't travel, then where is the advantage? Well, you must travel to the blind and back. Granted, I don't take my bows down every time that I get back to the truck, but I could and would if I routinely had extra riders. There is certainly an added expense for the two piece, but it is much cheaper to get it the first time than to wish you had gotten it.
I never build a one piece bow for myself anymore. I put a lot of time and money into building an atractive bow and then when all the gear is piled up, mine can be protected in a small case or in my suit case not in the middle of the heap. Just my .02.
getting BiggerJim
Friend I have owned several bows from different Bowyers 52" to 56"s ... "ALL" of my current bows are 2pc ... before I ordered my 56" Thunder Child Twins from Jim I found a 60" Buff 2pc....The advantages are obvious for travel and with Jims system they function as well as any bow I have owned. I currently own three of Jims bows and another in the works. I sold all my one pc bows....the 2pc versions with this system are every bit as quiet, fast and smooth as there 1pc counter parts were....
I do believe that the takedown system Big Jim, Black Widow and Cari-Bow use is my favorite hands down..... When these bow are strung you would never know they were a 2pc and when they are shot you would never know they weren't a 1pc ... I have also shot a 2pc PL Widow and l own a 2pc Cari-Bow Peregrine the system works the same on all.
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My Cari-Bow Peregrine ..... same system but this is a 64" bow...
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For a short two piece them bows Big Jim is making look sweet to me and handy !
I could not be more pleased with all the bows I have from Jim ... so much so I've got another in the works My 60" Buff is getting lonely :)
Buff or TC they are Shooters all of them !!!
Ohhhhh so nice to look at :)
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Not more pics of jims bows.My name should be comming up any day now. And I think one of the bows should be a two piece after reading these post.
Most of my bows are take-downs for ease of travel. Earlier this year I got a new 56" Shrew Classic Hunter. It is a 2-piece take-down that uses the bow bolt system that I think is fantastic. It assembles with a 1/4 turn and fits together so perfectly that I is difficult to see that it is a 2-piece. I see no down sides, only the upside of convience for travel. By the way, I just love the Shrew. I have a 32" draw and can't believe how smooth shooting and accurate this little bow is for me. I have a couple of other top bows, but this has become my favorite.
I also have 2 Shrews with bow-bolts. Can't see any drawbacks really. I am happy with both. Then Coaster comes along and sticks these beauties right in my face. The 3 bows I really want to try the most.2 Big Jim and Caribow. Wow! Alright who is going to be at Kazoo. Is there a list somewhere?
Fellow Trad Gangers, you have come to my rescue and eased my mind. Yes, it is my dream TC of which I was referring. It is amazing after all the preplanning that I started to second guess myself. Big Jim has a great plan for me and I just needed to confirm my request.
A Take–down it shall be!!!
Much thanks to all.
t/d stickbows are the way to go for air travel, i would never wanna deal with a 1pc of any length.
imo, well made 2pc bows are every bit as good as a 1pc.
really short stickbows (56" and under) are quite special by design. lots will also depends on yer draw length.
can't never go wrong with a big jim t/d bow!
I concur with what the others are saying about Big Jim's 2-piece. Here is my beautiful Juniper Thunder Child, 56" 56@28".
As stated the weight isn't hardly any different from a standard one-piece. However, by adding my Big Jim quiver, which is also the cat's meow... it really tends to stabalize the bow arm.
Man, I just noticed in my own pics that I need to wax my bow string! :rolleyes:
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Nice bow , barry
Does big jim bows sure are tempting
I second for 2 pc td , mine being a 54 Treadway black swamp 56@28
I hunt a lot in ground blinds and they are the way to go
Excellent and same shooting as a 1 pc I really like the little weight on the riser i think the bow balances nicely
QuoteOriginally posted by Friend:
Fellow Trad Gangers, you have come to my rescue and eased my mind. Yes, it is my dream TC of which I was referring. It is amazing after all the preplanning that I started to second guess myself. Big Jim has a great plan for me and I just needed to confirm my request.
A Take–down it shall be!!!
Much thanks to all.
Good decision!!
Buckster--that's a fine looking TC. That Jumiper is sweet.
I can't miss a chance to show a pic of my Buff. I just can't get enough of looking at Jim's bows. I'm on the list for a 2pc TC myself, Black Myrtle.
2pc is the only way to go.
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DannyBows - You don't need to keep posting those pics. Once was enough for me and I immediately saved the pic to my Dream TC file.
That bow is not only remarkably striking, it offers an enviable looking practical camoflauge.
Thank you again for responding to my short 2 pc take-down question. The only short bow I have owned was my Little Bear back in 1969 and back then, it wasn't that short for me.
Drawing advice from TG's experienced members has once again proven invaluable. Peace of mind has no price.
You will enjoy your TC friend and a two piece will make it a great travel companion....
Good luck and don't forget to post pics when you get it :)
I have several two piece Shrews with BowBolts. One is a 60" Super Shrew, and the rest are 56" Classic Hunters. Other than cost, I see no disadvantages to a 2 piece and many advantages that have been discussed by others. I won't order a one piece bow. The Classic Hunter is an amazing bow. I don't know how the ThunderChild compares, but I would like to shoot one and see. Cody Dixon (Steel) is getting a 56" ThunderChild, and he lives just about 100 miles away, so maybe I will be able to shoot his. Cody has shot a lot of Shrews, including a Lil Favorite I bought from him, so I will trust his opinion on how the CH compares to the TC even if I don't get to shoot the TC myself. That Dalmatian Ebony is very special looking. I like it a lot. I also like the design of the takedown grip on Big Jim's two piece bows. I just hope that grip will be as comfortable in my hand as a Shrew. For those of you who have shot both the CH and the TC, how do they compare?
Jim, you have any more of that pretty Dalmatian Ebony?
Allan
After recieving my TC in a two piece I just couldn't see owning a one piece any more.Jims two piece is state of the art in both beauty and function.His 2 piece system is second to none.You can pay more but you won't get better IMHO.Jim is also a great person to deal with someone I'd share a camp with anyday.
Danny,
That is a fine TC, now I know what I want my next one to be. Has there even been an ugly bow by Big Jim???
Yes Buckster- there has been an ugly bow or two. I keep them in the cellar and only take them out for night hunting. Seriously, it's in the wood. Seldom is there a bunch of fancy lines or curves in my bows. Mostly straight lines and beautiful natural "Gift from God" woods that I can not take credit for. I can tell how special some of these woods are when someone who is new to them comes to the shop. I can't help but give them the tour of nations! Woods from Laous, Africa, shri lanka, mexico, canada, Japan, and yes, there is a bunch of incredible woods right here in the great USA. and many other countries also.
Their eyes get wide with amazement. Woods that are bright yellow, orange, purple, black or blood red. Or maybe a combination of colors like cocobolo. Then there's always the wild figure or contrasting figure and spots and Oh crap! I'm doing it again. I guess I need to go back to work.
Ya'll have fun. Remember, it's supposed to be fun!
BigJIm
Buckster,
I have a juniper TC on order with exactly the same specs as your bow. The pics of yours make me drool all over my keyboard. Is your riser cocobolo? That is one outstanding looking bow, and if it shoots half as good as it looks, it has to be a tack driver. I continue to wait with eager anticipation. Big Jim needs to chain himself to his workbench and keep turning out those works of art.